TJ Class 2025 Admission Data

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

You are wrong. You could not be more wrong on what the 1.5% represents. It is an allocation of seats, not an offer only made to the top 1.5% if they apply.

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

Those must be some impressive kids coming out of Arlington.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

Those must be some impressive kids coming out of Arlington.

To be fair, the kids from Arlington generally come almost exclusively from Williamsburg and Swanson. Jefferson, Kenmore and the like don’t do as well.

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

Those must be some impressive kids coming out of Arlington.

Arlington and Falls Church City routinely produce some of the most outstanding, well-rounded kids at TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

There are actually six in Arlington - Williamsburg, Swanson, Jefferson, Gunston, Kenmore, and the newly opened Dorothy Hamm. Hamm is located at the old HB Woodlawn site and geographically, one would expect its population to be fairly affluent.

It is a shame that Arlington doesn't get more seats at TJ, as its delegation tends to be among the strongest at the school.

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Arlington keeps talking about no longer paying for students to attend TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

7 - you forgot HB Woodlawn. You also have to consider private school kids residing in Arlington.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

There are actually six in Arlington - Williamsburg, Swanson, Jefferson, Gunston, Kenmore, and the newly opened Dorothy Hamm. Hamm is located at the old HB Woodlawn site and geographically, one would expect its population to be fairly affluent.

It is a shame that Arlington doesn't get more seats at TJ, as its delegation tends to be among the strongest at the school.

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

Those must be some impressive kids coming out of Arlington.

Arlington and Falls Church City routinely produce some of the most outstanding, well-rounded kids at TJ.

TJ FCPS parent here. Not rejecting your claim, but wondering what you base it on? Are you a TJ teacher - that would certainly hold some weight. My child has TJ friends from both Arlington and FCC - nice kids, middle of the pack academically like my kid, sports/activities involvement - but not sure I would have identified them as the most outstanding. I am treading carefully here - but based on my limited sample size, the FCC and Arlington kids are typically white, not Indian - is that affecting your opinion?

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

There are actually six in Arlington - Williamsburg, Swanson, Jefferson, Gunston, Kenmore, and the newly opened Dorothy Hamm. Hamm is located at the old HB Woodlawn site and geographically, one would expect its population to be fairly affluent.

It is a shame that Arlington doesn't get more seats at TJ, as its delegation tends to be among the strongest at the school.

7 - you forgot HB Woodlawn. And you need to consider private school kids that live in Arlington (some attend BASIS in McLean).

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

Those must be some impressive kids coming out of Arlington.

Arlington and Falls Church City routinely produce some of the most outstanding, well-rounded kids at TJ.

TJ FCPS parent here. Not rejecting your claim, but wondering what you base it on? Are you a TJ teacher - that would certainly hold some weight. My child has TJ friends from both Arlington and FCC - nice kids, middle of the pack academically like my kid, sports/activities involvement - but not sure I would have identified them as the most outstanding. I am treading carefully here - but based on my limited sample size, the FCC and Arlington kids are typically white, not Indian - is that affecting your opinion?

They are excellent students and as you mentioned, VERY involved in extracurriculars above and beyond just STEM and are leaders in those areas (team captains, talented performers, etc). And they generally do VERY well in the college admissions process as a result.

As to how I know this - not going to out myself, but I've attended every TJ graduation except for COVID ones for over 15 years, and with good reason. I know the vast majority of the faculty and hundreds of the students every year. I'll leave it at that.

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

There are actually six in Arlington - Williamsburg, Swanson, Jefferson, Gunston, Kenmore, and the newly opened Dorothy Hamm. Hamm is located at the old HB Woodlawn site and geographically, one would expect its population to be fairly affluent.

It is a shame that Arlington doesn't get more seats at TJ, as its delegation tends to be among the strongest at the school.

7 - you forgot HB Woodlawn. And you need to consider private school kids that live in Arlington (some attend BASIS in McLean).

True! I had neglected the fact that HB is a secondary. Good catch.

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington keeps talking about no longer paying for students to attend TJ.

They do - and unlike Loudoun, I think there is a reasonable chance that it could happen. I don't think you'd see the overwhelming parental outcry like you did in Loudoun - people parading their 8-year olds up to the podium talking about "don't take away my dream of TJ"

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Anonymous wrote:The 1.5% is for calculating the number of spots allotted to each middle school. Each school gets spots amounting to 1.5% of the eighth grade class.

No. It is the top 1.5% are guaranteed seats if they apply. And Students have to have a 3.5 GPA and taken Algebra Honors. I get that there are people on this board who think that is amazingly easy but there are plenty of kids who will not meet one or both of those requirements. The schools that send the fewest students probably have a much larger number of kids who will not have taken Algebra or have a 3.5 GPA.

Heck, I know kids at Carson that will not take Algebra until 9th grade.

Step out of your little bubble and realize that the vast majority of people are not interested in TJ and that the kids that you are so afraid of taking a spot at TJ are not going to be handed it simply because they are attending a school with very few kids at TJ.

Alright - this is from the actual TJ Admissions Website (tjadmissions.org):

Allocated Seats - Our selection process will ensure seats are allocated to all public schools based on 1.5% of their 8th grade student population. Students with the strongest evaluated applications will be offered admissions up to the number allocated to each public school. All remaining eligible students will compete for unallocated seats and/or be placed in the waitpool. In the event a school does not have enough students to fill the allocated seats, the remaining unfilled seats will be included in the unallocated selection process. The 1.5% is designed to provide more proportional opportunities from each of our public middle schools.

Unallocated Seats - Our selection process includes unallocated seats that are not assigned to any specific public middle school. These seats are offered to the highest evaluated applicants who were not offered an allocated seat at the student's school.

This is not especially well-written, but I think the most commonsense reading of this is:

If Public School X has 600 students in 8th grade, they will have 9 allocated seats regardless of county. If they have 9 or fewer applications that are qualified for TJ based on the admissions standards, those 9 students will be offered admission. If any of them decline, those seats will become unallocated seats, likely allowing schools like Carson and Longfellow, and perhaps the high-end privates to pick up some more spots. If they have more than 9, the students will be ranked top to bottom and they will be offered admission in order of ranking until those seats are filled.

Yep. There will be a large number of schools in Loudoun and (especially) Prince William counties that do not fill their allotment - historically, in many of those cases significantly less than 1.5% of their 8th grade class has even applied. Indeed, in PW there will be several schools that do not occupy a single seat in the Class of 2025 - to say nothing of the number of students who will turn down their offer of admission.

I believe the 1.5% per school only applies to FCPS. The other counties have a certain number of seats alloted to the entire county. The allotments are far fewer than 1.5% of the 8th grade student body.

I had thought this was the case too, but found no evidence to support that it only applied to FCPS.

Do the math. Arlington has 7 middle schools that average at least 300-400 students in 8th grade each. That would be 3.5-6 students in the top 1.5% per school. Multiply by 7 and you get 24.5 to 42 students. Arlington is capped at 20 seats. Even if you are in the top 1.5% for your middle school, Getting in to TJ is very, very difficult.

Those must be some impressive kids coming out of Arlington.

Arlington and Falls Church City routinely produce some of the most outstanding, well-rounded kids at TJ.

TJ FCPS parent here. Not rejecting your claim, but wondering what you base it on? Are you a TJ teacher - that would certainly hold some weight. My child has TJ friends from both Arlington and FCC - nice kids, middle of the pack academically like my kid, sports/activities involvement - but not sure I would have identified them as the most outstanding. I am treading carefully here - but based on my limited sample size, the FCC and Arlington kids are typically white, not Indian - is that affecting your opinion?

They are excellent students and as you mentioned, VERY involved in extracurriculars above and beyond just STEM and are leaders in those areas (team captains, talented performers, etc). And they generally do VERY well in the college admissions process as a result.

As to how I know this - not going to out myself, but I've attended every TJ graduation except for COVID ones for over 15 years, and with good reason. I know the vast majority of the faculty and hundreds of the students every year. I'll leave it at that.

OK! Thanks for responding and I will acknowledge your expertise - my sample size is obviously very small.