Those of you with kids in both AAP and gen ed...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course there are differences. The peer group is most different.

Both my kids are in AAP and they do not get mixed with gen Ed kids. It is like a segregated school at their AAP center.

I’m an AAP parent and parents like you are so insufferable. The reality is that except for a small minority, the difference between bright gen ed kids and AAP is minimal. In middle school, it matters less and in high school, it doesn’t matter at all.

This is the way our AAP center runs.

At our old school, my quiet well behaved child was ignored and given perfect grades while the teacher attended to the other students who needed more attention.

I could care less about the AAP label but I do see a huge difference. I like the academic extracurriculars that are also offered like science Olympiad, chess club, math counts, geography, literature, etc.

Are those only offered at AAP centers or are they only offered to AAP students at LLIV schools?

They should be offered to ALL kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op, you don't want this. One child is already labeled, "the smart one"

+1- PP about immersion we are at a center school as our home school and put the second kid in immersion so that child would have a different experience and not have to deal with the AAP vs. Non-AAP. Kids are same gender so there is already competition and we definitely didn't want them thinking they were "smart and not smart." They are both smart, but different kids personality wise.

As an AAP parent in a center I think the program should change. Why does an elementary school kid need a smart designation for developing faster than other kids. Completely silly. HOWEVER, there is little differentiation in regular. My kid was never pulled for a reading group in K-1 because the kid was already reading and this made AAP a good fit.

It was the instruction that was lacking because that kid already was above grade level. As a teacher in another district, teachers are often told to not meet with the above grade level kids and concentrate on just the low kids from higher ups (principals and curriculum specialists). They will tell you that is not the case, but teachers know and it is absolutely the case. To those of you who like standardized testing, this is the result of the race to the top and no child left behind crap. We just teach testing, not kids at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course there are differences. The peer group is most different.

Both my kids are in AAP and they do not get mixed with gen Ed kids. It is like a segregated school at their AAP center.

I’m an AAP parent and parents like you are so insufferable. The reality is that except for a small minority, the difference between bright gen ed kids and AAP is minimal. In middle school, it matters less and in high school, it doesn’t matter at all.

It’s not the difference between the bright kids that matters, it’s the lack of truly struggling kids in aap. Those are the kids that dictate the speed of a gen Ed class, not the bright ones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course there are differences. The peer group is most different.

Both my kids are in AAP and they do not get mixed with gen Ed kids. It is like a segregated school at their AAP center.

I’m an AAP parent and parents like you are so insufferable. The reality is that except for a small minority, the difference between bright gen ed kids and AAP is minimal. In middle school, it matters less and in high school, it doesn’t matter at all.

This is the way our AAP center runs.

At our old school, my quiet well behaved child was ignored and given perfect grades while the teacher attended to the other students who needed more attention.

I could care less about the AAP label but I do see a huge difference. I like the academic extracurriculars that are also offered like science Olympiad, chess club, math counts, geography, literature, etc.

Are those only offered at AAP centers or are they only offered to AAP students at LLIV schools?

They should be offered to ALL kids.

They are offered to all kids. They require parent support. Volunteer to organize at your school if you do not have them already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, you don't want this. One child is already labeled, "the smart one"

+1- PP about immersion we are at a center school as our home school and put the second kid in immersion so that child would have a different experience and not have to deal with the AAP vs. Non-AAP. Kids are same gender so there is already competition and we definitely didn't want them thinking they were "smart and not smart." They are both smart, but different kids personality wise.

As an AAP parent in a center I think the program should change. Why does an elementary school kid need a smart designation for developing faster than other kids. Completely silly. HOWEVER, there is little differentiation in regular. My kid was never pulled for a reading group in K-1 because the kid was already reading and this made AAP a good fit.

It was the instruction that was lacking because that kid already was above grade level. As a teacher in another district, teachers are often told to not meet with the above grade level kids and concentrate on just the low kids from higher ups (principals and curriculum specialists). They will tell you that is not the case, but teachers know and it is absolutely the case. To those of you who like standardized testing, this is the result of the race to the top and no child left behind crap. We just teach testing, not kids at this point.

OP here. It's pretty obvious to parents. So what can a parent of a gen ed kid do to ensure they flourish/do well in later grades?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course there are differences. The peer group is most different.

Both my kids are in AAP and they do not get mixed with gen Ed kids. It is like a segregated school at their AAP center.

I’m an AAP parent and parents like you are so insufferable. The reality is that except for a small minority, the difference between bright gen ed kids and AAP is minimal. In middle school, it matters less and in high school, it doesn’t matter at all.

This is the way our AAP center runs.

At our old school, my quiet well behaved child was ignored and given perfect grades while the teacher attended to the other students who needed more attention.

I could care less about the AAP label but I do see a huge difference. I like the academic extracurriculars that are also offered like science Olympiad, chess club, math counts, geography, literature, etc.

Are those only offered at AAP centers or are they only offered to AAP students at LLIV schools?

They should be offered to ALL kids.

Many of these are offered at my sons ES now, without Local Level IV. The school is adding Local Level IV next year. The STEM groups fill up in the first 24 hours of extra curricular activities being released.

[Anonymous]

What’s the difference in middle school? Does it improve once gen ed kids can take honors?

[Anonymous]

Just found out my 4th grader level 3 AAP was not found eligible for full time AAP and I’m crying and feel so discouraged.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, you don't want this. One child is already labeled, "the smart one"

+1- PP about immersion we are at a center school as our home school and put the second kid in immersion so that child would have a different experience and not have to deal with the AAP vs. Non-AAP. Kids are same gender so there is already competition and we definitely didn't want them thinking they were "smart and not smart." They are both smart, but different kids personality wise.

As an AAP parent in a center I think the program should change. Why does an elementary school kid need a smart designation for developing faster than other kids. Completely silly. HOWEVER, there is little differentiation in regular. My kid was never pulled for a reading group in K-1 because the kid was already reading and this made AAP a good fit.

It was the instruction that was lacking because that kid already was above grade level. As a teacher in another district, teachers are often told to not meet with the above grade level kids and concentrate on just the low kids from higher ups (principals and curriculum specialists). They will tell you that is not the case, but teachers know and it is absolutely the case. To those of you who like standardized testing, this is the result of the race to the top and no child left behind crap. We just teach testing, not kids at this point.

OP here. It's pretty obvious to parents. So what can a parent of a gen ed kid do to ensure they flourish/do well in later grades?

encouraging reading and pay for math tutoring

[Anonymous]

Gen ed is a joke. Seriously, it's really bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gen ed is a joke. Seriously, it's really bad.

Are your kids in AAP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course there are differences. The peer group is most different.

Both my kids are in AAP and they do not get mixed with gen Ed kids. It is like a segregated school at their AAP center.

I’m an AAP parent and parents like you are so insufferable. The reality is that except for a small minority, the difference between bright gen ed kids and AAP is minimal. In middle school, it matters less and in high school, it doesn’t matter at all.

This is the way our AAP center runs.

At our old school, my quiet well behaved child was ignored and given perfect grades while the teacher attended to the other students who needed more attention.

I could care less about the AAP label but I do see a huge difference. I like the academic extracurriculars that are also offered like science Olympiad, chess club, math counts, geography, literature, etc.

Are those only offered at AAP centers or are they only offered to AAP students at LLIV schools?

They should be offered to ALL kids.

They are offered to all kids. They require parent support. Volunteer to organize at your school if you do not have them already.

We couldn't even get the kids, parents, and teachers on board for a science fair at the gen ed school. All of these things are parent and teacher led. This is why people like AAP centers. Because there is cohort of people interested in these activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s the difference in middle school? Does it improve once gen ed kids can take honors?

Yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, you don't want this. One child is already labeled, "the smart one"

+1- PP about immersion we are at a center school as our home school and put the second kid in immersion so that child would have a different experience and not have to deal with the AAP vs. Non-AAP. Kids are same gender so there is already competition and we definitely didn't want them thinking they were "smart and not smart." They are both smart, but different kids personality wise.

As an AAP parent in a center I think the program should change. Why does an elementary school kid need a smart designation for developing faster than other kids. Completely silly. HOWEVER, there is little differentiation in regular. My kid was never pulled for a reading group in K-1 because the kid was already reading and this made AAP a good fit.

It was the instruction that was lacking because that kid already was above grade level. As a teacher in another district, teachers are often told to not meet with the above grade level kids and concentrate on just the low kids from higher ups (principals and curriculum specialists). They will tell you that is not the case, but teachers know and it is absolutely the case. To those of you who like standardized testing, this is the result of the race to the top and no child left behind crap. We just teach testing, not kids at this point.

And without testing there is no teaching. As we can all see with the removal of grammar and writing from the elementary curriculum. The removal of tests given a couple of times a year does not automatically make teachers teach better. It gives them more freedom not to teach.

[Anonymous]

I wish more gen ed parents would weigh in on how their kids did in middle and high schools.