National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want

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Anonymous wrote:It's a pretty well known fact that the loudest people with the biggest wallets are going to be the most vocal. #openFCPS and its equivalent around the country are very representative of that fact. DCUM is 99% rich white women posting so OF COURSE that's who is going to be vocal on this board. In real life, most of the people I know are fine with DL. They don't love it, it's not ideal, of course they'd like kids to be back in school, but most people I've talked to would prefer 5 days in school to 100% DL to hybrid in that order.

Weird. I have only met one parent who is fine with DL. No other parents and not even teachers. I doubt either of us know a representative sample.

Yeah, the parents I know chose DL for their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:In almost all districts surveyed in this area (last summer), it was about an even split between those that preferred either virtual or in person. That was a long time ago, and people on both sides have changed their minds now. Some that are still choosing virtual are only doing so because the in-person option is 2 days per week and logistically difficult.

Yes, so about half of families in this area have gotten what they wanted. Full time DL.

The other half? Just complainers, just whites who are out of step "demographically or politically".

Who in this area is getting full-time DL? I would be happier with that, but my FCPS kids have no instruction on Mondays and dramatically less instruction Tuesday through Friday than they did previously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In almost all districts surveyed in this area (last summer), it was about an even split between those that preferred either virtual or in person. That was a long time ago, and people on both sides have changed their minds now. Some that are still choosing virtual are only doing so because the in-person option is 2 days per week and logistically difficult.

Yes, so about half of families in this area have gotten what they wanted. Full time DL.

The other half? Just complainers, just whites who are out of step "demographically or politically".

Who in this area is getting full-time DL? I would be happier with that, but my FCPS kids have no instruction on Mondays and dramatically less instruction Tuesday through Friday than they did previously.

Well aren't you cute...

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Anonymous wrote:follow the money. a lot of pro-lockdown organizations in the funders of both the study and the chalkbeat group.

https://www.chalkbeat.org/pages/supporters

https://uasdata.usc.edu/index.php

While chalkbeat is a useless, one-sided, poorly-written union blog, I’m not sure what you’re saying about USC. But anyway, chalkbeat is so transparent here. “A plurality want all DL! This is evidence that we should continue in DL! Are we supposed to ignore the fact that the majority would like some in-person?

How do you know the majority want in person? Based on DCUM? Yeah, that isn’t a good way to assess a majority.

No, that's exactly what a plurality means. The REST of everyone else represents the majority. Plurality isn't that hard people. Here's an example:

Imagine 35% of parents want distance learning only, 31% want hybrid, and 32% want full in-person. You can frame it as "the option which got the most votes, distance learning" wins--this is the plurality. But if you look at it another way, 63%, or a majority, of parents in this example wanted something else--in this case at least some portion of in-person.

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Please note that I am not using the real numbers, just an easy example of what plurality means.

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Since when do we care what the majority of the country wants? The majority of the country are idiots who don't care about education or whether women's labor force participation is sent decades back.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at Chicago public school district... They are getting what they want... Only 30% some 3rd grader are proficient readers at the grade level... REALLY be careful with what you want

This is not the case here, though. So seems like your comparisons are a bit of apple to orange.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In almost all districts surveyed in this area (last summer), it was about an even split between those that preferred either virtual or in person. That was a long time ago, and people on both sides have changed their minds now. Some that are still choosing virtual are only doing so because the in-person option is 2 days per week and logistically difficult.

Yes, so about half of families in this area have gotten what they wanted. Full time DL.

The other half? Just complainers, just whites who are out of step "demographically or politically".

Who in this area is getting full-time DL? I would be happier with that, but my FCPS kids have no instruction on Mondays and dramatically less instruction Tuesday through Friday than they did previously.

Well, we aren't THIS week b/c teachers have the last two days to prepare for concurrent, that is going to suck and dilute DL. Thanks RTS advocates!

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Anonymous wrote:Since when do we care what the majority of the country wants? The majority of the country are idiots who don't care about education or whether women's labor force participation is sent decades back.

Also true. We shouldn't be making policy based on taking the emotional temperature of idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In almost all districts surveyed in this area (last summer), it was about an even split between those that preferred either virtual or in person. That was a long time ago, and people on both sides have changed their minds now. Some that are still choosing virtual are only doing so because the in-person option is 2 days per week and logistically difficult.

Yes, so about half of families in this area have gotten what they wanted. Full time DL.

The other half? Just complainers, just whites who are out of step "demographically or politically".

Who in this area is getting full-time DL? I would be happier with that, but my FCPS kids have no instruction on Mondays and dramatically less instruction Tuesday through Friday than they did previously.

Well, we aren't THIS week b/c teachers have the last two days to prepare for concurrent, that is going to suck and dilute DL. Thanks RTS advocates!

I agree. Seems kind of selfish for parents to keep their kids home and try to dilute in-person for the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In almost all districts surveyed in this area (last summer), it was about an even split between those that preferred either virtual or in person. That was a long time ago, and people on both sides have changed their minds now. Some that are still choosing virtual are only doing so because the in-person option is 2 days per week and logistically difficult.

Yes, so about half of families in this area have gotten what they wanted. Full time DL.

The other half? Just complainers, just whites who are out of step "demographically or politically".

Who in this area is getting full-time DL? I would be happier with that, but my FCPS kids have no instruction on Mondays and dramatically less instruction Tuesday through Friday than they did previously.

Well, we aren't THIS week b/c teachers have the last two days to prepare for concurrent, that is going to suck and dilute DL. Thanks RTS advocates!

I agree. Seems kind of selfish for parents to keep their kids home and try to dilute in-person for the rest of us.

...that's not a bad point. there are tons online options for parents who want to continue in DL for much longer. the rest of us need school buildings and in-person teachers. it seems like the people who want DL are taking resources from the rest of us. why take up a slot at a local school if they don't need to be AT the local school?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In almost all districts surveyed in this area (last summer), it was about an even split between those that preferred either virtual or in person. That was a long time ago, and people on both sides have changed their minds now. Some that are still choosing virtual are only doing so because the in-person option is 2 days per week and logistically difficult.

Yes, so about half of families in this area have gotten what they wanted. Full time DL.

The other half? Just complainers, just whites who are out of step "demographically or politically".

Who in this area is getting full-time DL? I would be happier with that, but my FCPS kids have no instruction on Mondays and dramatically less instruction Tuesday through Friday than they did previously.

Well, we aren't THIS week b/c teachers have the last two days to prepare for concurrent, that is going to suck and dilute DL. Thanks RTS advocates!

I agree. Seems kind of selfish for parents to keep their kids home and try to dilute in-person for the rest of us.

...that's not a bad point. there are tons online options for parents who want to continue in DL for much longer. the rest of us need school buildings and in-person teachers. it seems like the people who want DL are taking resources from the rest of us. why take up a slot at a local school if they don't need to be AT the local school?

+1

There needs to be a larger Friendship online school for these parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In almost all districts surveyed in this area (last summer), it was about an even split between those that preferred either virtual or in person. That was a long time ago, and people on both sides have changed their minds now. Some that are still choosing virtual are only doing so because the in-person option is 2 days per week and logistically difficult.

Yes, so about half of families in this area have gotten what they wanted. Full time DL.

The other half? Just complainers, just whites who are out of step "demographically or politically".

Who in this area is getting full-time DL? I would be happier with that, but my FCPS kids have no instruction on Mondays and dramatically less instruction Tuesday through Friday than they did previously.

Well, we aren't THIS week b/c teachers have the last two days to prepare for concurrent, that is going to suck and dilute DL. Thanks RTS advocates!

I agree. Seems kind of selfish for parents to keep their kids home and try to dilute in-person for the rest of us.

...that's not a bad point. there are tons online options for parents who want to continue in DL for much longer. the rest of us need school buildings and in-person teachers. it seems like the people who want DL are taking resources from the rest of us. why take up a slot at a local school if they don't need to be AT the local school?

Honestly, probably they want to keep their precious slot for whenever they feel like the time is right to go back, demanding the rest of us wait on their timeline. I would not be surprised to find out that the majority of angry white ladies who want perpetual DL have a spot at Shephard or something, and want to keep it for themselves even when they're not using it.