Ashley Judd in ICU after accident in Congo

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Anonymous wrote:Is it just one person here who is highly, disproportionately defensive of any criticism against Ashley Judd? What gives? She is a nutter, as evidenced by her horrifically embarrassing display at the Women’s March in 2017.

I’m with the other PPs who noted that the middle of a pandemic is no time to be traveling to see apes. This trip could have waited. If this was just an average person, you’d be slamming her for unnecessary travel mid-pandemic. So take a seat and be quiet.

+1,000. Maybe she should have stayed home in Hollywood and just donated money for the experts to take care of the apes.

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Well I am sure glad she is ok and can hopefully return to counting Bonobos. I mean the skill involved in that must be incredible. No one else can do it clearly.

If only they could find a famous person who had been in movies to donate money for Bonobo conservation....

[Anonymous]

Prednisone is not a treatment for IBS.

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Anonymous wrote:Have a friend who has been in the industry for nearly 40 years - has worked with everyone from Madonna and Michael Jackson making videos to Spike Lee and Martin Scorsese on full length features, from the Sopranos to the Marvel Universe. When I once asked him who was the worst person he ever encountered he did not hesitate to indicate Ashley Judd. Said she was “spoiled, unprofessional, hard headed, selfish, insecure, unreliable and a bit crazy.”

I hope she gets better but I bet there is a back story.

I think her family has had such significant pathology in their history, (they admit as much) and so she has suffered a good deal of emotional deprivation and abuse/trauma in her childhood, I respect her in many ways, I just find the underlying histrionic streak in all of the Judds to be wearying, her and her mother in particular seem compelled to photograph and display their pain and yet I understand her drive to save others and to save the world. She needed saving as a little girl and no one was there for her. She at least tries to use her fame for good, which is commendable. I can think of worse celebrities.

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She did not exactly win the familial genetic lottery. Lots of troubled people, lots of generational pain. This all looks pretty traumatic, sadly.

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She may feel compelled to put herself in high risk situations.

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Anonymous wrote:In her defense she has acknowledged her privilege in the treatment she is receiving.

I am generally not a fan of the constant “acknowledge your privilege” missives that are so popular these days, but...

At what point is it simply not enough to constantly “acknowledge your privilege”? Shouldn’t some people consider not exercising that privilege to begin with? And no, I don’t mean she shouldn’t get proper treatment for her injury, but I DO mean she had no business being there in the first place. I am guessing her Congolese “brothers and sisters” think of her (rightly) as little more than some rich, white, foreign asshole.

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Anonymous wrote:In her defense she has acknowledged her privilege in the treatment she is receiving.

I am generally not a fan of the constant “acknowledge your privilege” missives that are so popular these days, but...

At what point is it simply not enough to constantly “acknowledge your privilege”? Shouldn’t some people consider not exercising that privilege to begin with? And no, I don’t mean she shouldn’t get proper treatment for her injury, but I DO mean she had no business being there in the first place. I am guessing her Congolese “brothers and sisters” think of her (rightly) as little more than some rich, white, foreign asshole.

THANK YOU!

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Anonymous wrote:Erm...why was she in Congo in the first place? Is she aware there is a global pandemic on?

Apparently she studies bonobos there: https://www.today.com/health/ashley-judd-recalls-catastrophic-leg-accident-congo-t208952

I have a lot of questions about how/why Judd is involved with long-term primate research, but that's the reason.

Yeah, did she REALLY need to check on the bonobos IN PERSON right now? Seems a bit self serving. Now she's using health resources that the people there might need.

Jane Goodall is at home so there’s that.

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Who is her life partner?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In her defense she has acknowledged her privilege in the treatment she is receiving.

I am generally not a fan of the constant “acknowledge your privilege” missives that are so popular these days, but...

At what point is it simply not enough to constantly “acknowledge your privilege”? Shouldn’t some people consider not exercising that privilege to begin with? And no, I don’t mean she shouldn’t get proper treatment for her injury, but I DO mean she had no business being there in the first place. I am guessing her Congolese “brothers and sisters” think of her (rightly) as little more than some rich, white, foreign asshole.

Or maybe they appreciate that she’d bringing attention and resources to preserving bonobos.... since you and I literally have NO IDEA what her Congolese counterparts think of her or really understand why she was there, why not err on the side of not being an a-hole yourself. Give the woman the benefit of the doubt for a minute and at least wait until you’ve got more info / she’s out of ICU before you start mocking her appearance and accusing her of being a privileged white lady.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In her defense she has acknowledged her privilege in the treatment she is receiving.

I am generally not a fan of the constant “acknowledge your privilege” missives that are so popular these days, but...

At what point is it simply not enough to constantly “acknowledge your privilege”? Shouldn’t some people consider not exercising that privilege to begin with? And no, I don’t mean she shouldn’t get proper treatment for her injury, but I DO mean she had no business being there in the first place. I am guessing her Congolese “brothers and sisters” think of her (rightly) as little more than some rich, white, foreign asshole.

Or maybe they appreciate that she’d bringing attention and resources to preserving bonobos.... since you and I literally have NO IDEA what her Congolese counterparts think of her or really understand why she was there, why not err on the side of not being an a-hole yourself. Give the woman the benefit of the doubt for a minute and at least wait until you’ve got more info / she’s out of ICU before you start mocking her appearance and accusing her of being a privileged white lady.

I am not the PP who mocked her appearance, but no, I will not give her the benefit of the doubt (?) about what the hell she was doing there. If Ashley Judd is the last, best hope for Bonobos then we should just write them off now...

(But again, shouldn’t the point be to acknowledge your privilege TO YOURSELF and then use that insight to inform your future decisions? Not to just continually engage in rich, entitled asshole behavior and then *acknowledge* it?)

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Anonymous wrote:Who is her life partner?

Yes, who is it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Erm...why was she in Congo in the first place? Is she aware there is a global pandemic on?

Apparently she studies bonobos there: https://www.today.com/health/ashley-judd-recalls-catastrophic-leg-accident-congo-t208952

I have a lot of questions about how/why Judd is involved with long-term primate research, but that's the reason.

Yeah, did she REALLY need to check on the bonobos IN PERSON right now? Seems a bit self serving. Now she's using health resources that the people there might need.

Jane Goodall is at home so there’s that.

Yes, I actually work with hundreds of primatologists, and guess what? They are all at home. Their seasons have been canceled, their field work is on hold, their labs are mostly closed. The idea that Ashley Judd, an earnest amateur at best, a dilettante at worst, NEEDED to go to Congo, or even more laughably, that the bobobos NEEDED her, is patently ludicrous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She seems like a very good person and I’m sorry this happened to her... but can we please talk about how bad her filler looks? Is this really preferable to just aging now?

Grow up and shut up. Actually, first shut up, and then do the work to grow up.