Ashley Judd in ICU after accident in Congo

[Anonymous]

Congo is a super dangerous place.

Italian ambassador was just killed there in an ambush on a U.N. convoy:

https://mb.ntd.com/italian-ambassador-killed-in-congo-while-in-un-convoy_570320.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Erm...why was she in Congo in the first place? Is she aware there is a global pandemic on?

Apparently she studies bonobos there: https://www.today.com/health/ashley-judd-recalls-catastrophic-leg-accident-congo-t208952

I have a lot of questions about how/why Judd is involved with long-term primate research, but that's the reason.

I didn't read the thread and probably won't but wanted to share something I learned while at the NIH's primate center.

Bonobos are the only non-human primates who seem to have sex for fun. They have same-sex sex, masterbate a ton and have a large variety of sexual activities. And, they have never read the Kama Sutra! Seriously, she might be studying their sex lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Erm...why was she in Congo in the first place? Is she aware there is a global pandemic on?

Apparently she studies bonobos there: https://www.today.com/health/ashley-judd-recalls-catastrophic-leg-accident-congo-t208952

I have a lot of questions about how/why Judd is involved with long-term primate research, but that's the reason.

I didn't read the thread and probably won't but wanted to share something I learned while at the NIH's primate center.

Bonobos are the only non-human primates who seem to have sex for fun. They have same-sex sex, masterbate a ton and have a large variety of sexual activities. And, they have never read the Kama Sutra! Seriously, she might be studying their sex lives.

Interesting! Because Ashley went to Congo to have sex for fun (not to study bonobos).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without the annoying but usually well meaning celebrities that “study” wildlife and/or champion wildlife causes, a lot of local organizations in countries across the world would be in dire financial straights.

Researchers bring grants to fund the research and best practices and training to the local preserves and entities they work with. But it’s fundraising that people like Judd and others bring that help to bring attention to conservation issues, attract donors. And often help to sway local conservation laws.

Another poster snarkily said that bonobos are doomed if Judd is their lifeline. But consider that Judd is able to bring far more attention to bonobos in just one appearance than many researchers in their life time, Goodall not withstanding.

I can also assure you that many of these preserves are desperate for money. They get little financial support from their local governments and to some extent the very notion of “conservation” is viewed as being the EPITOME of white / western privilege in countries where animals are viewed as resources / food / medicine / tourist attractions. So bringing in money and attention is important, even if it’s not as “serious” as the “real researchers’” work. On that front, Judd is doing a good thing.

It’s sad that the supposed primatologists on this thread aren’t acknowledging that.

Okay, but who here knew that Ashley Judd “worked” with bonobos before this? If she’s trying to use her celebrity to raise money for them, she’s doing a piss-poor job, since apparently no one was aware of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congo is a super dangerous place.

Italian ambassador was just killed there in an ambush on a U.N. convoy:

https://mb.ntd.com/italian-ambassador-killed-in-congo-while-in-un-convoy_570320.html

A very good friend worked for the UN in Congo. He was a hostage negotiator, people often were kidnapped for ransom for short periods of a time (a few hours to a few days). He had a body guard and a drive, he also lived in shipping containers made into an apartment because it’s safer, but still had barbed wire. He said it was the most unsafe place he had ever worked (regular people, lovely, otherwise totally unsafe)and he has worked in Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti and Darfur, Sudan.

Her accident looks like some freak, horrific accident, based on the X-rays.

[Anonymous]

She is walking again according to her Instagram. Who in the hell writes like that? So pretentious. This isn’t Out of Africa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Without the annoying but usually well meaning celebrities that “study” wildlife and/or champion wildlife causes, a lot of local organizations in countries across the world would be in dire financial straights.

Researchers bring grants to fund the research and best practices and training to the local preserves and entities they work with. But it’s fundraising that people like Judd and others bring that help to bring attention to conservation issues, attract donors. And often help to sway local conservation laws.

Another poster snarkily said that bonobos are doomed if Judd is their lifeline. But consider that Judd is able to bring far more attention to bonobos in just one appearance than many researchers in their life time, Goodall not withstanding.

I can also assure you that many of these preserves are desperate for money. They get little financial support from their local governments and to some extent the very notion of “conservation” is viewed as being the EPITOME of white / western privilege in countries where animals are viewed as resources / food / medicine / tourist attractions. So bringing in money and attention is important, even if it’s not as “serious” as the “real researchers’” work. On that front, Judd is doing a good thing.

It’s sad that the supposed primatologists on this thread aren’t acknowledging that.

Okay, but who here knew that Ashley Judd “worked” with bonobos before this? If she’s trying to use her celebrity to raise money for them, she’s doing a piss-poor job, since apparently no one was aware of it.

I think she's dating the lead researcher on the project.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She is walking again according to her Instagram. Who in the hell writes like that? So pretentious. This isn’t Out of Africa.

That sums up Ashley Judd. Pretentious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She is walking again according to her Instagram. Who in the hell writes like that? So pretentious. This isn’t Out of Africa.

Apparently you’d react differently to your life-altering event. Most people do.
Oh, and, walk a mile and all that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is walking again according to her Instagram. Who in the hell writes like that? So pretentious. This isn’t Out of Africa.

Apparently you’d react differently to your life-altering event. Most people do.
Oh, and, walk a mile and all that.

Referring to her writing style. She’s an actress so maybe that’s it. She just seems like the type to embellish. I’m not doubting this was traumatic but I think with her everything is overblown.

[Anonymous]

Wow there are some petty, jealous, small minded b*tches on this thread. Did she pee in your cornflakes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow there are some petty, jealous, small minded b*tches on this thread. Did she pee in your cornflakes?

We wish you the best, Ashley or friend. Hope your recovery goes well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She is walking again according to her Instagram. Who in the hell writes like that? So pretentious. This isn’t Out of Africa.

Apparently you’d react differently to your life-altering event. Most people do.
Oh, and, walk a mile and all that.

Referring to her writing style. She’s an actress so maybe that’s it. She just seems like the type to embellish. I’m not doubting this was traumatic but I think with her everything is overblown.

Oh she's a major drama queen, always has been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow there are some petty, jealous, small minded b*tches on this thread. Did she pee in your cornflakes?

No, just people who work in DC non-profits with first hand experience. The only ones that loved her were the equally crazy executives/hanger-ons.