With distance learning parents see the subpar education of public schools demand better

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers would not drain public schools if done properly. Average kid $10,000 voucher. ESL $20,000 Voucher. SpEd $20,000-40,000 voucher depending on need. Thus private schools have incentive to accept some esl and SpEd kids and public schools will be well funded if they end up with mostly esl and Spec. Ed. There should be no requirements attached to the vouchers unless a family chooses to homeschool. Everyone wins.

By definition, vouchers drain the system. No way.

No. Public schools would get the voucher money of the kids that attend. The system will be improved for all because there is competition. More private schools could open resulting in smaller classes across the board. Everyone wins.

Nope. Stop with the RWNJ lies. No one wins with vouchers. Look at how they’ve destroyed public schools in Michigan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers would not drain public schools if done properly. Average kid $10,000 voucher. ESL $20,000 Voucher. SpEd $20,000-40,000 voucher depending on need. Thus private schools have incentive to accept some esl and SpEd kids and public schools will be well funded if they end up with mostly esl and Spec. Ed. There should be no requirements attached to the vouchers unless a family chooses to homeschool. Everyone wins.

By definition, vouchers drain the system. No way.

No. Public schools would get the voucher money of the kids that attend. The system will be improved for all because there is competition. More private schools could open resulting in smaller classes across the board. Everyone wins.

Nope. Stop with the RWNJ lies. No one wins with vouchers. Look at how they’ve destroyed public schools in Michigan.

Did Michigan have a tiered funding system for vouchers as I am proposing? Are you a lackluster teacher afraid of competition?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers would not drain public schools if done properly. Average kid $10,000 voucher. ESL $20,000 Voucher. SpEd $20,000-40,000 voucher depending on need. Thus private schools have incentive to accept some esl and SpEd kids and public schools will be well funded if they end up with mostly esl and Spec. Ed. There should be no requirements attached to the vouchers unless a family chooses to homeschool. Everyone wins.

By definition, vouchers drain the system. No way.

No. Public schools would get the voucher money of the kids that attend. The system will be improved for all because there is competition. More private schools could open resulting in smaller classes across the board. Everyone wins.

Nope. Stop with the RWNJ lies. No one wins with vouchers. Look at how they’ve destroyed public schools in Michigan.

Did Michigan have a tiered funding system for vouchers as I am proposing? Are you a lackluster teacher afraid of competition?

I’m a parent who recognizes that vouchers will increase disparities and pull much-needed resources from public schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers would not drain public schools if done properly. Average kid $10,000 voucher. ESL $20,000 Voucher. SpEd $20,000-40,000 voucher depending on need. Thus private schools have incentive to accept some esl and SpEd kids and public schools will be well funded if they end up with mostly esl and Spec. Ed. There should be no requirements attached to the vouchers unless a family chooses to homeschool. Everyone wins.

By definition, vouchers drain the system. No way.

No. Public schools would get the voucher money of the kids that attend. The system will be improved for all because there is competition. More private schools could open resulting in smaller classes across the board. Everyone wins.

Nope. Stop with the RWNJ lies. No one wins with vouchers. Look at how they’ve destroyed public schools in Michigan.

Did Michigan have a tiered funding system for vouchers as I am proposing? Are you a lackluster teacher afraid of competition?

I’m a parent who recognizes that vouchers will increase disparities and pull much-needed resources from public schools.

You mean money that will go to more administrators at Gatehouse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers would not drain public schools if done properly. Average kid $10,000 voucher. ESL $20,000 Voucher. SpEd $20,000-40,000 voucher depending on need. Thus private schools have incentive to accept some esl and SpEd kids and public schools will be well funded if they end up with mostly esl and Spec. Ed. There should be no requirements attached to the vouchers unless a family chooses to homeschool. Everyone wins.

By definition, vouchers drain the system. No way.

No. Public schools would get the voucher money of the kids that attend. The system will be improved for all because there is competition. More private schools could open resulting in smaller classes across the board. Everyone wins.

Nope. Stop with the RWNJ lies. No one wins with vouchers. Look at how they’ve destroyed public schools in Michigan.

Did Michigan have a tiered funding system for vouchers as I am proposing? Are you a lackluster teacher afraid of competition?

I’m a parent who recognizes that vouchers will increase disparities and pull much-needed resources from public schools.

Oh, so you are a parrot repeating something you read/heard and unashamed to rely on that superficial understanding. I thought we were logical free thinkers trying to find solutions. Do you have a deeper explanation for why this wouldn't work or is "vouchers = bad" all you've got?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers would not drain public schools if done properly. Average kid $10,000 voucher. ESL $20,000 Voucher. SpEd $20,000-40,000 voucher depending on need. Thus private schools have incentive to accept some esl and SpEd kids and public schools will be well funded if they end up with mostly esl and Spec. Ed. There should be no requirements attached to the vouchers unless a family chooses to homeschool. Everyone wins.

By definition, vouchers drain the system. No way.

No. Public schools would get the voucher money of the kids that attend. The system will be improved for all because there is competition. More private schools could open resulting in smaller classes across the board. Everyone wins.

Nope. Stop with the RWNJ lies. No one wins with vouchers. Look at how they’ve destroyed public schools in Michigan.

Did Michigan have a tiered funding system for vouchers as I am proposing? Are you a lackluster teacher afraid of competition?

I’m a parent who recognizes that vouchers will increase disparities and pull much-needed resources from public schools.

You mean money that will go to more administrators at Gatehouse.

FCPS has issues. Vouchers aren’t the solution - they’re a death march.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are smart, you would've never enrolled your kids in public school in the first place. You could spend years and years advocating for your kids and they would still get the same crappy education or you could put your money where your mouth is and enroll in a private school.

We can't all afford private schools and we're not okay with sending our kids to a parochial school that is against our religious beliefs.

Even parochial is 10-15k a year per kid. Times 2 or 3 kids, that’s just not workable for many people.

So push to raise taxes to properly fund schools. It’d be a fraction of $45k/yr.

Nah. If they raise taxes for schools they will give all the extra money to sped and ELL.

Ok. And?

So much for advocating for EL and low SES families...

Right. If SPED and ELL is improved, that should also free up time for teachers to provide better instruction to non ELL neuro-typical students. I think that would be a good thing.

Exactly.

Except it wouldn’t work like that. Those kids would get more, and our kids would get the same crappy education they have been getting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Vouchers would not drain public schools if done properly. Average kid $10,000 voucher. ESL $20,000 Voucher. SpEd $20,000-40,000 voucher depending on need. Thus private schools have incentive to accept some esl and SpEd kids and public schools will be well funded if they end up with mostly esl and Spec. Ed. There should be no requirements attached to the vouchers unless a family chooses to homeschool. Everyone wins.

By definition, vouchers drain the system. No way.

No. Public schools would get the voucher money of the kids that attend. The system will be improved for all because there is competition. More private schools could open resulting in smaller classes across the board. Everyone wins.

Nope. Stop with the RWNJ lies. No one wins with vouchers. Look at how they’ve destroyed public schools in Michigan.

Did Michigan have a tiered funding system for vouchers as I am proposing? Are you a lackluster teacher afraid of competition?

I’m a parent who recognizes that vouchers will increase disparities and pull much-needed resources from public schools.

Oh, so you are a parrot repeating something you read/heard and unashamed to rely on that superficial understanding. I thought we were logical free thinkers trying to find solutions. Do you have a deeper explanation for why this wouldn't work or is "vouchers = bad" all you've got?

Happy to discuss. Vouchers increase disparity (racial, sped) and discrimination. Not something taxpayers should fund.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now that parents see first hand how awful public school is , demand better. Trust me it's no just dl public school is subpar and the only holding it up is parents paying out of pocket to tutor and supplement. Demand better and accountability regardless of in person. Demand vouchers so that schools feel the pressure to perform. I want public school to work but it's been subpar and behind for the last 2 decades.

Your polemic would carry more weight if it were better written.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vouchers would not drain public schools if done properly. Average kid $10,000 voucher. ESL $20,000 Voucher. SpEd $20,000-40,000 voucher depending on need. Thus private schools have incentive to accept some esl and SpEd kids and public schools will be well funded if they end up with mostly esl and Spec. Ed. There should be no requirements attached to the vouchers unless a family chooses to homeschool. Everyone wins.

By definition, vouchers drain the system. No way.

No. Public schools would get the voucher money of the kids that attend. The system will be improved for all because there is competition. More private schools could open resulting in smaller classes across the board. Everyone wins.

Nope. Stop with the RWNJ lies. No one wins with vouchers. Look at how they’ve destroyed public schools in Michigan.

Did Michigan have a tiered funding system for vouchers as I am proposing? Are you a lackluster teacher afraid of competition?

I’m a parent who recognizes that vouchers will increase disparities and pull much-needed resources from public schools.

Plus, they're not going to get the $15,000 that FCPS pays per student. Vouchers will give them a fraction of that. They'll be lucky if they get $2-5,000 towards a voucher.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are smart, you would've never enrolled your kids in public school in the first place. You could spend years and years advocating for your kids and they would still get the same crappy education or you could put your money where your mouth is and enroll in a private school.

We can't all afford private schools and we're not okay with sending our kids to a parochial school that is against our religious beliefs.

Even parochial is 10-15k a year per kid. Times 2 or 3 kids, that’s just not workable for many people.

So push to raise taxes to properly fund schools. It’d be a fraction of $45k/yr.

Nah. If they raise taxes for schools they will give all the extra money to sped and ELL.

Ok. And?

So much for advocating for EL and low SES families...

Right. If SPED and ELL is improved, that should also free up time for teachers to provide better instruction to non ELL neuro-typical students. I think that would be a good thing.

Exactly.

Except it wouldn’t work like that. Those kids would get more, and our kids would get the same crappy education they have been getting.

So SPED students like my child does not deserve an adequate education?

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Anonymous wrote:If you are smart, you would've never enrolled your kids in public school in the first place. You could spend years and years advocating for your kids and they would still get the same crappy education or you could put your money where your mouth is and enroll in a private school.

We can't all afford private schools and we're not okay with sending our kids to a parochial school that is against our religious beliefs.

Even parochial is 10-15k a year per kid. Times 2 or 3 kids, that’s just not workable for many people.

So push to raise taxes to properly fund schools. It’d be a fraction of $45k/yr.

Nah. If they raise taxes for schools they will give all the extra money to sped and ELL.

Ok. And?

So much for advocating for EL and low SES families...

Right. If SPED and ELL is improved, that should also free up time for teachers to provide better instruction to non ELL neuro-typical students. I think that would be a good thing.

Exactly.

Except it wouldn’t work like that. Those kids would get more, and our kids would get the same crappy education they have been getting.

So SPED students like my child does not deserve an adequate education?

They certainly aren’t going to get that via vouchers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are smart, you would've never enrolled your kids in public school in the first place. You could spend years and years advocating for your kids and they would still get the same crappy education or you could put your money where your mouth is and enroll in a private school.

We can't all afford private schools and we're not okay with sending our kids to a parochial school that is against our religious beliefs.

Even parochial is 10-15k a year per kid. Times 2 or 3 kids, that’s just not workable for many people.

So push to raise taxes to properly fund schools. It’d be a fraction of $45k/yr.

Nah. If they raise taxes for schools they will give all the extra money to sped and ELL.

Ok. And?

So much for advocating for EL and low SES families...

Right. If SPED and ELL is improved, that should also free up time for teachers to provide better instruction to non ELL neuro-typical students. I think that would be a good thing.

Exactly.

Except it wouldn’t work like that. Those kids would get more, and our kids would get the same crappy education they have been getting.

So SPED students like my child does not deserve an adequate education?

No. If school funding increases, it should not all go just to a subset of students. All students should get an improved education, not just your snowflake who we already spend multiples on over a non-sped student. I’m not going to vote to pay more taxes so your kid gets more and my kids gets the same old same old.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are smart, you would've never enrolled your kids in public school in the first place. You could spend years and years advocating for your kids and they would still get the same crappy education or you could put your money where your mouth is and enroll in a private school.

We can't all afford private schools and we're not okay with sending our kids to a parochial school that is against our religious beliefs.

Even parochial is 10-15k a year per kid. Times 2 or 3 kids, that’s just not workable for many people.

So push to raise taxes to properly fund schools. It’d be a fraction of $45k/yr.

Nah. If they raise taxes for schools they will give all the extra money to sped and ELL.

Ok. And?

So much for advocating for EL and low SES families...

Right. If SPED and ELL is improved, that should also free up time for teachers to provide better instruction to non ELL neuro-typical students. I think that would be a good thing.

Exactly.

Except it wouldn’t work like that. Those kids would get more, and our kids would get the same crappy education they have been getting.

So SPED students like my child does not deserve an adequate education?

They certainly aren’t going to get that via vouchers.

While I am not advocating for vouchers, I am not sure that is true - especially if I could use the voucher for the evidence based phonics instruction that I am currently paying for out of pocket since my child’s school system won’t provide it since it will not recognize my child’s medically diagnosed dyslexia and dysgraphia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are smart, you would've never enrolled your kids in public school in the first place. You could spend years and years advocating for your kids and they would still get the same crappy education or you could put your money where your mouth is and enroll in a private school.

We can't all afford private schools and we're not okay with sending our kids to a parochial school that is against our religious beliefs.

You could afford it if you didn't overpay for your house. Choices, choices.

DP but no matter where I live in the DC area I don’t have 80k extra to send 2 kids to private school.

Then you haven't really investigated private schools. They do not all cost that amount.