I feel so bad for DS’ teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why virtual learning is completely worthless .

It's why it should be called distance teaching and not distance learning.

Not in all situations. My child is learning and his teacher is working hard to make it so.

OP here. My son is learning too, and while he is behind where he would be were he in regular school, I am not worried about him, mostly thanks to the dedication of his teacher. Overall I am worried about the achievement gap, but at the moment I am mostly just feeling so bad for the teachers.

I don’t think that distance learning (or teaching) is worthless, but dang it is rough on everybody.

It’s me the child development expert again. I have a current third grader doing distance-learning and I also taught third grade myself. Don’t worry about the teacher. You just don’t see what goes on in the classroom and there are behavior problems there too. This doesn’t mean I support distance-learning for all - I don’t - but I think you can cross this off your list of things to worry about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

NP. Why is this harsh? You don’t have to put EVERY toy out of reach but you could take some of the more distracting ones and the gaming systems and put them away or put them in your own line of sight until after school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

NP. Why is this harsh? You don’t have to put EVERY toy out of reach but you could take some of the more distracting ones and the gaming systems and put them away or put them in your own line of sight until after school.

Do you think every family has a separate area in their house for kids to do school? For real. The classroom is the answer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

I am not a teacher and I have all the sympathy for everyone involved. It's because I am sympathetic, l believe you should put the gaming console away when the class is in session. My guess is that didn't let it in the brick and mortar school, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

NP. Why is this harsh? You don’t have to put EVERY toy out of reach but you could take some of the more distracting ones and the gaming systems and put them away or put them in your own line of sight until after school.

NP here. My kid doesn’t even need toys to get distracted. She’ll walk around and act out ridiculous one-woman shows and have a grand ole time with nothing but her imagination.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

NP. Why is this harsh? You don’t have to put EVERY toy out of reach but you could take some of the more distracting ones and the gaming systems and put them away or put them in your own line of sight until after school.

NP here. My kid doesn’t even need toys to get distracted. She’ll walk around and act out ridiculous one-woman shows and have a grand ole time with nothing but her imagination.

And how would the classroom change it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

NP. Why is this harsh? You don’t have to put EVERY toy out of reach but you could take some of the more distracting ones and the gaming systems and put them away or put them in your own line of sight until after school.

It's not harsh. You allow your kid a fidget thing at their desk and a book to read when they finish their work. You tell them to keep the camera on. You check in on them every so often to see that they are doing what you expect them to do. You find a way to clear out a space that is less distracting for the kid who is easily distracted. We have been doing this for almost a year. It is not easy but we have been doing this long enough that parents for the vast majority of kids should have been able to figure this out by now.

Yes, younger ES kids are going to need to be guided more. Yes, that sucks. Buy a crib monitor and stick it in the room with the kid. Call out to your kid when you see them playing and not doing what they are suppose to be doing. Take away whatever thing it was they were playing with. Check their email or class page and look to see if their work is completed. they don't get to play until their school work is completed, even if the school day is done. Once they know you are paying attention and what your expectations are, they are likely to do what they are suppose to do.

And yes, there are exceptions to every rule, but the majority of kids are not the exception. They have figured out that you hate DL and don't want to put in the effort to make sure that they are doing what the Teacher tells them to do so they know that they don't have to. Kids a freaking brilliant at figuring out how to manipulate the system.

This sucks and we all know it. we can choose to make it less sucky or we can bitch. My kids Teachers have been working their butts off to make this work. He is learning, not as much as he would be in person, but he is learning. He has subjects that he enjoys and class material he is excited by. He is 8. I don't think that he is all that different then most kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

NP. Why is this harsh? You don’t have to put EVERY toy out of reach but you could take some of the more distracting ones and the gaming systems and put them away or put them in your own line of sight until after school.

NP here. My kid doesn’t even need toys to get distracted. She’ll walk around and act out ridiculous one-woman shows and have a grand ole time with nothing but her imagination.

And how would the classroom change it?

OMG seriously?

[Anonymous]

Maybe he should try a different approach...like use visuals (hold up the worksheet the kids need to work on, for example), not sound so monotone (does he have a drab voice?), do a quick reminder at the end of class (refresh), put a huge red Star (or something like that) on the online links/icons/whatever he wants the kids to complete.

maybe choose better timing too and engage better too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teaching kids in 3rd grade remotely should only have been an option for those who with very high-risk conditions. Relying on these kids to pay attention while they are sitting in their bedroom, or in their house next to their dog, with their toys and iPad within reach, has never been set up for success.

I feel for all younger elementary teachers, but everyone has to get back in-person if that's their choice. It's the only way this will get resolved.

So put them away.

So harsh. many kids have parents that are working FT and cannot monitor every minute and have no choice of where these kids are doing schoolwork. Many families live in small apartments with no choice of what is within reach. Get them back to class and if you are a teacher, find another career because clearly, you have no sympathy for students.

NP. Why is this harsh? You don’t have to put EVERY toy out of reach but you could take some of the more distracting ones and the gaming systems and put them away or put them in your own line of sight until after school.

NP here. My kid doesn’t even need toys to get distracted. She’ll walk around and act out ridiculous one-woman shows and have a grand ole time with nothing but her imagination.

And how would the classroom change it? [/quoe]

OMG seriously?

OMG, yes! If she does this with a camera on - she will do the same in a classroom. However, not just her, but the whole class won’t learn with her one-woman show. There won’t be a parent to help discipline her, but one tired teacher (and maybe an assistant) responsible for the learning of the other 25 kids in class. In class, they can’t mute her. She, in turn, can’t fidget, song, and walk around if that what helps her focus.

[Anonymous]

Maybe the teacher doesn’t have kids on his own and it’s hard for him to keep students engaged.

[Anonymous]

Kids who have issues with executive functioning are in some cases flailing with distance learning. I think we really need to keep this in mind. My kid is an excellent student (above grade level in reading/math), wins citizenship awards and not a "trouble maker". DL has surprisingly been a struggle for my kid. I sat in on a class and saw the teacher give directions. My kids could not repeat to me what they said; was too overwhelmed thinking about which app they had to use; how much time they had to do it. There has been little support from schools for these kids. Luckily our teacher is fantastic and patient as a saint!

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I really think kids are hitting a wall at this point. Almost five months of virtual school since Sept. That is countless hours staring at small squares on a screen. Can only imagine what this is doing to them developmentally. We really have nothing else to compare this to in educational history and have not given enough consideration to the consequences of it on a long-term basis. I appreciate these patient teachers for trying but it really is staring to feel fruitless.