Interested in starting an In-Home daycare in Arlington in my rental property ( or second home)...

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Anonymous wrote:I think you’re wildly overestimating how much someone will pay for this set up. It’s basically a nanny share but with a very biased nanny favoring her own kids. Especially if you’re expecting “flexibility” in terms of schedule. I expect my daycare to be open all day every workday except federal holidays.

This. It's basically an overcrowded nanny share with an inexperienced, heavily biased nanny. For me, those three things would be a hard no.

Its 3 kids. How is that overcrowded? I know people trying to split nanny shares between 3 sets of parents. That's called a pod lady and no - I'm not taking your 2-year-old and your 4-year-old for less than $500 a week.

Then I wouldn’t take this deal. You want similar to normal nanny shares in the area. I’d of course rather have a nanny who isn’t only in it to care for her own kids, which I can have for the price.

OP, did you mean $500 for a 2 AND 4 year old, or $500 each? The latter would be hard sell for the reasons PP mentioned.

$500 for the 2-year-old and the 4-year-old together.

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Anonymous wrote:So what happens to this kindergartener when the K day is over? Do you have to run out and pick them up? Or is the K in aftercare?

Where the heck in NOVA is a K in person with aftercare?? Even my private school suspended aftercare for the entire year.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you’re wildly overestimating how much someone will pay for this set up. It’s basically a nanny share but with a very biased nanny favoring her own kids. Especially if you’re expecting “flexibility” in terms of schedule. I expect my daycare to be open all day every workday except federal holidays.

This. It's basically an overcrowded nanny share with an inexperienced, heavily biased nanny. For me, those three things would be a hard no.

Its 3 kids. How is that overcrowded? I know people trying to split nanny shares between 3 sets of parents. That's called a pod lady and no - I'm not taking your 2-year-old and your 4-year-old for less than $500 a week.

Then I wouldn’t take this deal. You want similar to normal nanny shares in the area. I’d of course rather have a nanny who isn’t only in it to care for her own kids, which I can have for the price.

You can't have a nanny who is a former teacher with credentials at that price in this area during Covid-19 - trust me. The base price is $20/hr plus overtime for 1-2 toddlers or 1 newborn. If you're looking at 40 hours a week that's $800/wk plus PTO. Some parents are going up to $22-$23/hr to get the good ones.

Even assuming that is true, OP is proposing one infant (her own) and 2 other kids, who also could be young. That's very different than 1-2 toddlers or 1 newborn. Also, it appears that OP is expecting each family to pay $500 -- that's getting more expensive than what you just laid out given that it is a shared arrangement. And, to the extent there is a Covid premium, that might not still be in play come next year.

I also think you are over estimating the premium that people will pay for teaching credentials with young kids. As others have said, experience with babies is more important than being able to teach reading.

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How are you going to transport all these non-walking kids to the park on your own? Seems dangerous.

Probably would only work with slightly older kids who can walk. I live very close to a park so that would be easy to get to. Driving— I already have another kid ( who would be gone at K during the day) so would only need to add one more car seat to the mix. Double stroller (with my baby strapped to me) would work for walking to the park.

Your car seat for your K is not likely to fit your charges. Lots of parents also wouldn't be comfortable with you driving.

What you are describing sounds more like a very informal, likely off the books arrangement that some parents might be willing to do if cheap enough. It doesn't really sounds like a licensed daycare operation.

How much do you think you would need to charge to make it worth your while?

Forget the driving then, lol I’m sure no activities will be open next year to drive to anyhow. Honestly doubt I would have any trouble finding two kids to watch as I already have friends (and friends of friends) that are struggling with finding care or are unhappy with their center. I’m more interested in finding out if it is legal to run an in-home out of a second home. But clearly I need to call Arlington to figure that out!

Was still worth it posting here because didn’t think at all about checking with HOA first. Obviously that is the first step!

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Anonymous wrote:I think you’re wildly overestimating how much someone will pay for this set up. It’s basically a nanny share but with a very biased nanny favoring her own kids. Especially if you’re expecting “flexibility” in terms of schedule. I expect my daycare to be open all day every workday except federal holidays.

This. It's basically an overcrowded nanny share with an inexperienced, heavily biased nanny. For me, those three things would be a hard no.

Its 3 kids. How is that overcrowded? I know people trying to split nanny shares between 3 sets of parents. That's called a pod lady and no - I'm not taking your 2-year-old and your 4-year-old for less than $500 a week.

Then I wouldn’t take this deal. You want similar to normal nanny shares in the area. I’d of course rather have a nanny who isn’t only in it to care for her own kids, which I can have for the price.

OP, did you mean $500 for a 2 AND 4 year old, or $500 each? The latter would be hard sell for the reasons PP mentioned.

$500 for the 2-year-old and the 4-year-old together.

That's cheap enough you might find takers.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you’re wildly overestimating how much someone will pay for this set up. It’s basically a nanny share but with a very biased nanny favoring her own kids. Especially if you’re expecting “flexibility” in terms of schedule. I expect my daycare to be open all day every workday except federal holidays.

This. It's basically an overcrowded nanny share with an inexperienced, heavily biased nanny. For me, those three things would be a hard no.

Its 3 kids. How is that overcrowded? I know people trying to split nanny shares between 3 sets of parents. That's called a pod lady and no - I'm not taking your 2-year-old and your 4-year-old for less than $500 a week.

Then I wouldn’t take this deal. You want similar to normal nanny shares in the area. I’d of course rather have a nanny who isn’t only in it to care for her own kids, which I can have for the price.

You can't have a nanny who is a former teacher with credentials at that price in this area during Covid-19 - trust me. The base price is $20/hr plus overtime for 1-2 toddlers or 1 newborn. If you're looking at 40 hours a week that's $800/wk plus PTO. Some parents are going up to $22-$23/hr to get the good ones.

Even assuming that is true, OP is proposing one infant (her own) and 2 other kids, who also could be young. That's very different than 1-2 toddlers or 1 newborn. Also, it appears that OP is expecting each family to pay $500 -- that's getting more expensive than what you just laid out given that it is a shared arrangement. And, to the extent there is a Covid premium, that might not still be in play come next year.

I also think you are over estimating the premium that people will pay for teaching credentials with young kids. As others have said, experience with babies is more important than being able to teach reading.

OP also has a kindergartener and hasn't explained what she plans to do with the kindergartener because even if K is in session...what happens after school? Does OP run out with all three kids to meet the bus? And what happens when OP wants her flexibility to nurse?

I honestly would not feel comfortable with this setup, which would mean my kids would really just be ignored by a full time mom of a baby and a kindergartener.

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How are you going to transport all these non-walking kids to the park on your own? Seems dangerous.

Probably would only work with slightly older kids who can walk. I live very close to a park so that would be easy to get to. Driving— I already have another kid ( who would be gone at K during the day) so would only need to add one more car seat to the mix. Double stroller (with my baby strapped to me) would work for walking to the park.

Your car seat for your K is not likely to fit your charges. Lots of parents also wouldn't be comfortable with you driving.

What you are describing sounds more like a very informal, likely off the books arrangement that some parents might be willing to do if cheap enough. It doesn't really sounds like a licensed daycare operation.

How much do you think you would need to charge to make it worth your while?

Forget the driving then, lol I’m sure no activities will be open next year to drive to anyhow. Honestly doubt I would have any trouble finding two kids to watch as I already have friends (and friends of friends) that are struggling with finding care or are unhappy with their center. I’m more interested in finding out if it is legal to run an in-home out of a second home. But clearly I need to call Arlington to figure that out!

Was still worth it posting here because didn’t think at all about checking with HOA first. Obviously that is the first step!

Are any of them unhappy with their current provider because they want to drag their kids for Kindergarten pickup every day, apparently without a car now, lol

[Anonymous]

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How are you going to transport all these non-walking kids to the park on your own? Seems dangerous.

Probably would only work with slightly older kids who can walk. I live very close to a park so that would be easy to get to. Driving— I already have another kid ( who would be gone at K during the day) so would only need to add one more car seat to the mix. Double stroller (with my baby strapped to me) would work for walking to the park.

Your car seat for your K is not likely to fit your charges. Lots of parents also wouldn't be comfortable with you driving.

What you are describing sounds more like a very informal, likely off the books arrangement that some parents might be willing to do if cheap enough. It doesn't really sounds like a licensed daycare operation.

How much do you think you would need to charge to make it worth your while?

Forget the driving then, lol I’m sure no activities will be open next year to drive to anyhow. Honestly doubt I would have any trouble finding two kids to watch as I already have friends (and friends of friends) that are struggling with finding care or are unhappy with their center. I’m more interested in finding out if it is legal to run an in-home out of a second home. But clearly I need to call Arlington to figure that out!

Was still worth it posting here because didn’t think at all about checking with HOA first. Obviously that is the first step!

Wait, what kind of activities were you thinking of driving them to? I thought you were just talking about the park close by? It would be pretty unusual to have field trips, and I am not sure that would really be viewed as a plus.

It sounds like you really haven't spent much time thinking this through. It might be a good idea, but you have a lot of things you need to think through/work out beyond just condo rules.

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250/week a kid is pretty cheap. I think going rate is around 350/week. You might get takers for that rate even with all the yellow flags

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Op again. I never put any prices on here— whoever was talking about
$500 for 2 and 4 year olds was maybe listing what they currently pay.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you’re wildly overestimating how much someone will pay for this set up. It’s basically a nanny share but with a very biased nanny favoring her own kids. Especially if you’re expecting “flexibility” in terms of schedule. I expect my daycare to be open all day every workday except federal holidays.

This. It's basically an overcrowded nanny share with an inexperienced, heavily biased nanny. For me, those three things would be a hard no.

Its 3 kids. How is that overcrowded? I know people trying to split nanny shares between 3 sets of parents. That's called a pod lady and no - I'm not taking your 2-year-old and your 4-year-old for less than $500 a week.

Then I wouldn’t take this deal. You want similar to normal nanny shares in the area. I’d of course rather have a nanny who isn’t only in it to care for her own kids, which I can have for the price.

You can't have a nanny who is a former teacher with credentials at that price in this area during Covid-19 - trust me. The base price is $20/hr plus overtime for 1-2 toddlers or 1 newborn. If you're looking at 40 hours a week that's $800/wk plus PTO. Some parents are going up to $22-$23/hr to get the good ones.

You’re dating the base *for a share* is a total of $40/hr? Because no, it is not. And K-12 credentials don’t matter for my 2-4 yr old. You are an inexperienced nanny in this situation, not a highly desirable teacher like in a teaching pod situation.

It clearly says the price for a nanny for up to 2 kids. Total price per hour. And you may not care about teaching credentials for a 2-4 yr old but other parents want a leg up for their kids reading and comprehension skills.

$25-$30/hr for someone versed in 'developmental milestones' - https://www.whitehousenannies.com/job/engaged-nanny-needed-for-active-1-year-old/

$25-$30/hr for nanny who can help with distance learning - https://www.whitehousenannies.com/job/nanny-needed-for-5-year-old-top-salary/

[Anonymous]

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How are you going to transport all these non-walking kids to the park on your own? Seems dangerous.

Probably would only work with slightly older kids who can walk. I live very close to a park so that would be easy to get to. Driving— I already have another kid ( who would be gone at K during the day) so would only need to add one more car seat to the mix. Double stroller (with my baby strapped to me) would work for walking to the park.

Your car seat for your K is not likely to fit your charges. Lots of parents also wouldn't be comfortable with you driving.

What you are describing sounds more like a very informal, likely off the books arrangement that some parents might be willing to do if cheap enough. It doesn't really sounds like a licensed daycare operation.

How much do you think you would need to charge to make it worth your while?

Forget the driving then, lol I’m sure no activities will be open next year to drive to anyhow. Honestly doubt I would have any trouble finding two kids to watch as I already have friends (and friends of friends) that are struggling with finding care or are unhappy with their center. I’m more interested in finding out if it is legal to run an in-home out of a second home. But clearly I need to call Arlington to figure that out!

Was still worth it posting here because didn’t think at all about checking with HOA first. Obviously that is the first step!

Are any of them unhappy with their current provider because they want to drag their kids for Kindergarten pickup every day, apparently without a car now, lol

Lol does anyone want their kid stuck in a swing all day while OP tries to nurse Larlo and help Larla with her homework?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

How are you going to transport all these non-walking kids to the park on your own? Seems dangerous.

Probably would only work with slightly older kids who can walk. I live very close to a park so that would be easy to get to. Driving— I already have another kid ( who would be gone at K during the day) so would only need to add one more car seat to the mix. Double stroller (with my baby strapped to me) would work for walking to the park.

Your car seat for your K is not likely to fit your charges. Lots of parents also wouldn't be comfortable with you driving.

What you are describing sounds more like a very informal, likely off the books arrangement that some parents might be willing to do if cheap enough. It doesn't really sounds like a licensed daycare operation.

How much do you think you would need to charge to make it worth your while?

Forget the driving then, lol I’m sure no activities will be open next year to drive to anyhow. Honestly doubt I would have any trouble finding two kids to watch as I already have friends (and friends of friends) that are struggling with finding care or are unhappy with their center. I’m more interested in finding out if it is legal to run an in-home out of a second home. But clearly I need to call Arlington to figure that out!

Was still worth it posting here because didn’t think at all about checking with HOA first. Obviously that is the first step!

Wait, what kind of activities were you thinking of driving them to? I thought you were just talking about the park close by? It would be pretty unusual to have field trips, and I am not sure that would really be viewed as a plus.

It sounds like you really haven't spent much time thinking this through. It might be a good idea, but you have a lot of things you need to think through/work out beyond just condo rules.

Library time was the activity I was thinking of.

[Anonymous]

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How are you going to transport all these non-walking kids to the park on your own? Seems dangerous.

Probably would only work with slightly older kids who can walk. I live very close to a park so that would be easy to get to. Driving— I already have another kid ( who would be gone at K during the day) so would only need to add one more car seat to the mix. Double stroller (with my baby strapped to me) would work for walking to the park.

Your car seat for your K is not likely to fit your charges. Lots of parents also wouldn't be comfortable with you driving.

What you are describing sounds more like a very informal, likely off the books arrangement that some parents might be willing to do if cheap enough. It doesn't really sounds like a licensed daycare operation.

How much do you think you would need to charge to make it worth your while?

Forget the driving then, lol I’m sure no activities will be open next year to drive to anyhow. Honestly doubt I would have any trouble finding two kids to watch as I already have friends (and friends of friends) that are struggling with finding care or are unhappy with their center. I’m more interested in finding out if it is legal to run an in-home out of a second home. But clearly I need to call Arlington to figure that out!

Was still worth it posting here because didn’t think at all about checking with HOA first. Obviously that is the first step!

No, it is not legal to run an in-home daycare out of a second home. The in-home daycare has to be your primary residence. Otherwise it’s considered to be a traditional daycare center, which can only be run in a property zoned for commercial use

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you’re wildly overestimating how much someone will pay for this set up. It’s basically a nanny share but with a very biased nanny favoring her own kids. Especially if you’re expecting “flexibility” in terms of schedule. I expect my daycare to be open all day every workday except federal holidays.

This. It's basically an overcrowded nanny share with an inexperienced, heavily biased nanny. For me, those three things would be a hard no.

Its 3 kids. How is that overcrowded? I know people trying to split nanny shares between 3 sets of parents. That's called a pod lady and no - I'm not taking your 2-year-old and your 4-year-old for less than $500 a week.

Then I wouldn’t take this deal. You want similar to normal nanny shares in the area. I’d of course rather have a nanny who isn’t only in it to care for her own kids, which I can have for the price.

You can't have a nanny who is a former teacher with credentials at that price in this area during Covid-19 - trust me. The base price is $20/hr plus overtime for 1-2 toddlers or 1 newborn. If you're looking at 40 hours a week that's $800/wk plus PTO. Some parents are going up to $22-$23/hr to get the good ones.

You’re dating the base *for a share* is a total of $40/hr? Because no, it is not. And K-12 credentials don’t matter for my 2-4 yr old. You are an inexperienced nanny in this situation, not a highly desirable teacher like in a teaching pod situation.

It clearly says the price for a nanny for up to 2 kids. Total price per hour. And you may not care about teaching credentials for a 2-4 yr old but other parents want a leg up for their kids reading and comprehension skills.

$25-$30/hr for someone versed in 'developmental milestones' - https://www.whitehousenannies.com/job/engaged-nanny-needed-for-active-1-year-old/

$25-$30/hr for nanny who can help with distance learning - https://www.whitehousenannies.com/job/nanny-needed-for-5-year-old-top-salary/

So now you’re doing distance learning/preschool with my preschooler, but while nursing/caring for your baby? That’s the rub. You’re comparing yourself to top rates for actual professional nannies, not nursing moms watching kids.

I agree that $12.50/hr or $500/week is a fair price for a nanny share. This is just a crappy nanny share. A good nanny share is a true nanny watching similar-aged kids.