Anddd... NYC just closed schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a poignant article about what happens with remote learning. Everyone should read it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-students-left-behind-by-remote-learning

Meanwhile doctors are quitting. We need to give on something or the spread will gut the medical profession. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/15/health/Covid-doctors-nurses-quitting.html

Don’t people get it?? Covid isn’t being transmitted in school. I know teachers are freaked out, but all the protocols work. Masks. Spacing. Controlled lines. Desks apart. Special dismissals. Etc.

People need to check their anxiety because it is absolutely the reason children are not getting educated. And these aren’t affluent kids whose mom or dad can tutor them or help them. They’re children living in poverty. It’s unbelievable that we are letting this happen.

There are 2,306 people who have gotten sick in NYC schools in the six weeks we’ve been open. Not sure why you think no one is getting sick in the schools. If masks work, then why do people insist they only work in schools but no other places? How can you say indoor dining is treacherous but the two meals a day my students eat unmasked in our classroom is fine? It’s such ridiculous moralizing of something that has no morals. The virus doesn’t care if you’re a restaurant, a school, a bar, a supermarket, or a gym. Spread is caused by distance plus time. Kids have people in close proximity for seven hours a day. Of course transmission occurs. People do not need to “check their anxiety” in a city that has lost 24k people to COVID. We respect the limitations of positive thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a poignant article about what happens with remote learning. Everyone should read it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-students-left-behind-by-remote-learning

Meanwhile doctors are quitting. We need to give on something or the spread will gut the medical profession. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/15/health/Covid-doctors-nurses-quitting.html

Don’t people get it?? Covid isn’t being transmitted in school. I know teachers are freaked out, but all the protocols work. Masks. Spacing. Controlled lines. Desks apart. Special dismissals. Etc.

People need to check their anxiety because it is absolutely the reason children are not getting educated. And these aren’t affluent kids whose mom or dad can tutor them or help them. They’re children living in poverty. It’s unbelievable that we are letting this happen.

There are 2,306 people who have gotten sick in NYC schools in the six weeks we’ve been open. Not sure why you think no one is getting sick in the schools. If masks work, then why do people insist they only work in schools but no other places? How can you say indoor dining is treacherous but the two meals a day my students eat unmasked in our classroom is fine? It’s such ridiculous moralizing of something that has no morals. The virus doesn’t care if you’re a restaurant, a school, a bar, a supermarket, or a gym. Spread is caused by distance plus time. Kids have people in close proximity for seven hours a day. Of course transmission occurs. People do not need to “check their anxiety” in a city that has lost 24k people to COVID. We respect the limitations of positive thinking.

Be kind to the trolls.

Conservatives and the DeVos crowd see their influence is melting away and this is likely their last chance to destroy public schools and break up teacher unions before the country shakes off minoritarian rule and our center-left majority asserts itself.

DeVos and her greedy friends are pushing like crazy to force schools open and there are trolls everywhere on Twitter; this could be one of them.
Even if PP actually believes it, they may be hearing the conservative hate-for-profit machine demonizing parents/teachers/schools and playing down the virus. (Also effective trolls always lie about being liberals.)

Just stick to your principles. Let them yell. We’re going to fix the schools and the country. Let’s just ride this winter out— and make sure the criminals in the Trump administration who did this to us face consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a poignant article about what happens with remote learning. Everyone should read it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-students-left-behind-by-remote-learning

Meanwhile doctors are quitting. We need to give on something or the spread will gut the medical profession. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/15/health/Covid-doctors-nurses-quitting.html

Don’t people get it?? Covid isn’t being transmitted in school. I know teachers are freaked out, but all the protocols work. Masks. Spacing. Controlled lines. Desks apart. Special dismissals. Etc.

People need to check their anxiety because it is absolutely the reason children are not getting educated. And these aren’t affluent kids whose mom or dad can tutor them or help them. They’re children living in poverty. It’s unbelievable that we are letting this happen.

There are 2,306 people who have gotten sick in NYC schools in the six weeks we’ve been open. Not sure why you think no one is getting sick in the schools. If masks work, then why do people insist they only work in schools but no other places? How can you say indoor dining is treacherous but the two meals a day my students eat unmasked in our classroom is fine? It’s such ridiculous moralizing of something that has no morals. The virus doesn’t care if you’re a restaurant, a school, a bar, a supermarket, or a gym. Spread is caused by distance plus time. Kids have people in close proximity for seven hours a day. Of course transmission occurs. People do not need to “check their anxiety” in a city that has lost 24k people to COVID. We respect the limitations of positive thinking.

Wtf are you talking about?? Masks DO work. And so do all of the protocols schools have in place. Are you saying that 2,306 people got covid FROM school?? I highly doubt it. They likely got it from OUTSIDE school. From family or friends.

People absolutely need to check their anxiety. The covid rate is LOW in NYC. Close schools when it goes high, not when it’s low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a poignant article about what happens with remote learning. Everyone should read it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-students-left-behind-by-remote-learning

Meanwhile doctors are quitting. We need to give on something or the spread will gut the medical profession. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/15/health/Covid-doctors-nurses-quitting.html

Don’t people get it?? Covid isn’t being transmitted in school. I know teachers are freaked out, but all the protocols work. Masks. Spacing. Controlled lines. Desks apart. Special dismissals. Etc.

People need to check their anxiety because it is absolutely the reason children are not getting educated. And these aren’t affluent kids whose mom or dad can tutor them or help them. They’re children living in poverty. It’s unbelievable that we are letting this happen.

There are 2,306 people who have gotten sick in NYC schools in the six weeks we’ve been open. Not sure why you think no one is getting sick in the schools. If masks work, then why do people insist they only work in schools but no other places? How can you say indoor dining is treacherous but the two meals a day my students eat unmasked in our classroom is fine? It’s such ridiculous moralizing of something that has no morals. The virus doesn’t care if you’re a restaurant, a school, a bar, a supermarket, or a gym. Spread is caused by distance plus time. Kids have people in close proximity for seven hours a day. Of course transmission occurs. People do not need to “check their anxiety” in a city that has lost 24k people to COVID. We respect the limitations of positive thinking.

Be kind to the trolls.

Conservatives and the DeVos crowd see their influence is melting away and this is likely their last chance to destroy public schools and break up teacher unions before the country shakes off minoritarian rule and our center-left majority asserts itself.

DeVos and her greedy friends are pushing like crazy to force schools open and there are trolls everywhere on Twitter; this could be one of them.
Even if PP actually believes it, they may be hearing the conservative hate-for-profit machine demonizing parents/teachers/schools and playing down the virus. (Also effective trolls always lie about being liberals.)

Just stick to your principles. Let them yell. We’re going to fix the schools and the country. Let’s just ride this winter out— and make sure the criminals in the Trump administration who did this to us face consequences.

You’re paranoid. Betsy De Vos doesn’t have to do any trolling - all she has to do is laugh as formerly union-supporting parents realize they’ve been had.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a poignant article about what happens with remote learning. Everyone should read it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-students-left-behind-by-remote-learning

Meanwhile doctors are quitting. We need to give on something or the spread will gut the medical profession. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/15/health/Covid-doctors-nurses-quitting.html

Don’t people get it?? Covid isn’t being transmitted in school. I know teachers are freaked out, but all the protocols work. Masks. Spacing. Controlled lines. Desks apart. Special dismissals. Etc.

People need to check their anxiety because it is absolutely the reason children are not getting educated. And these aren’t affluent kids whose mom or dad can tutor them or help them. They’re children living in poverty. It’s unbelievable that we are letting this happen.

There are 2,306 people who have gotten sick in NYC schools in the six weeks we’ve been open. Not sure why you think no one is getting sick in the schools. If masks work, then why do people insist they only work in schools but no other places? How can you say indoor dining is treacherous but the two meals a day my students eat unmasked in our classroom is fine? It’s such ridiculous moralizing of something that has no morals. The virus doesn’t care if you’re a restaurant, a school, a bar, a supermarket, or a gym. Spread is caused by distance plus time. Kids have people in close proximity for seven hours a day. Of course transmission occurs. People do not need to “check their anxiety” in a city that has lost 24k people to COVID. We respect the limitations of positive thinking.

Be kind to the trolls.

Conservatives and the DeVos crowd see their influence is melting away and this is likely their last chance to destroy public schools and break up teacher unions before the country shakes off minoritarian rule and our center-left majority asserts itself.

DeVos and her greedy friends are pushing like crazy to force schools open and there are trolls everywhere on Twitter; this could be one of them.
Even if PP actually believes it, they may be hearing the conservative hate-for-profit machine demonizing parents/teachers/schools and playing down the virus. (Also effective trolls always lie about being liberals.)

Just stick to your principles. Let them yell. We’re going to fix the schools and the country. Let’s just ride this winter out— and make sure the criminals in the Trump administration who did this to us face consequences.

😱😱😱😱
I sick over this. I’m the PP you called a troll. I’m a liberal Democrat for god sakes! Yes, I have an independent streak, but I know nothing is more devastating to poor children than snapping their education sway. I’m sick that people in my own party are not seeing this.

[Anonymous]

Colorado has outbreaks in schools, many schools with active cases. So... duh!

[Anonymous]

Many school districts in my state (NC) have been open for hybrid instruction since August. The state is keeping track of the data, and clusters have been very few. Cases have occurred in proportion to the number of cases in the surrounding communities, but covid isn't spreading in public schools, where mitigation measures are strictly enforced. It is, however, spreading in Christian private schools that have had many outbreaks because of noncompliance with mask wearing. There have also been clusters linked to school staff and teenagers holding social gatherings outside of school.


I think NYC is being extra cautious because of what they went through in the spring. A lot of teachers did die, because we didnt know how to prevent covid spread then. It's also a place where just getting to work--primarily through public transit--puts school staff at risk. Also in an urban setting you can't do many of the things that suburban schools can do, like having lunch outside, that are useful for preventing spread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many school districts in my state (NC) have been open for hybrid instruction since August. The state is keeping track of the data, and clusters have been very few. Cases have occurred in proportion to the number of cases in the surrounding communities, but covid isn't spreading in public schools, where mitigation measures are strictly enforced. It is, however, spreading in Christian private schools that have had many outbreaks because of noncompliance with mask wearing. There have also been clusters linked to school staff and teenagers holding social gatherings outside of school.


I think NYC is being extra cautious because of what they went through in the spring. A lot of teachers did die, because we didnt know how to prevent covid spread then. It's also a place where just getting to work--primarily through public transit--puts school staff at risk. Also in an urban setting you can't do many of the things that suburban schools can do, like having lunch outside, that are useful for preventing spread.

It’s not like everyone in NYC is in agreement that schools should have closed. It has sparked arguments throughout the city. Even the mayors own team disagree over the 3% threshold:

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-de-blasio-school-closures-threshold-20201118-ot6hulllgff3pi2p7ogzwdadxa-story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many school districts in my state (NC) have been open for hybrid instruction since August. The state is keeping track of the data, and clusters have been very few. Cases have occurred in proportion to the number of cases in the surrounding communities, but covid isn't spreading in public schools, where mitigation measures are strictly enforced. It is, however, spreading in Christian private schools that have had many outbreaks because of noncompliance with mask wearing. There have also been clusters linked to school staff and teenagers holding social gatherings outside of school.


I think NYC is being extra cautious because of what they went through in the spring. A lot of teachers did die, because we didnt know how to prevent covid spread then. It's also a place where just getting to work--primarily through public transit--puts school staff at risk. Also in an urban setting you can't do many of the things that suburban schools can do, like having lunch outside, that are useful for preventing spread.

It’s not like everyone in NYC is in agreement that schools should have closed. It has sparked arguments throughout the city. Even the mayors own team disagree over the 3% threshold:

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-de-blasio-school-closures-threshold-20201118-ot6hulllgff3pi2p7ogzwdadxa-story.html

There are two sides to literally every issue. There are teachers who want schools to stay open and wanted to go back when 1,000 people were dying a day in New York. There are teachers who didn’t want to go back in September. 75% of parents chose not to send their children back to school buildings this fall in NYC, while only 25% of teachers are working from home. It is crazy to act like it’s an issue of teachers not willing to work for our students. The demand is just not there, except for a vocal minority. Parents just had an opportunity to opt back in to in person schools. My school has two children returning, and two who are opting out of in person for the remainder of the year because of rising cases. The net gain of students participating in “in person” school is zero. It is estimated that following COVID protocols is costing the city an additional 32 million dollars a week, by the way ($1.3 billion).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can the kids go to school in the restaurants?

Hah! Great idea. Or, put a classroom in a grocery store.