convince me to take the pregnancy "don't eat's" seriously

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I only paid attention to things that might give me listeria because that could transfer to the baby. The hardest thing was soft serve ice cream because it could breed in those machines. I never really ate deli meat.

I wasn't even aware of the soft serve thing. I definitely ate some of that while pregnant.

[Anonymous]

Just don’t eat sushi from a gas station and you’re fine

[Anonymous]

My OB had a stillbirth case due to lunch meat listeria.

[Anonymous]

During my first pregnancy I ate "healthy" avoided the don't eats and didn't drink any caffeine. Second pregnancy ( I'm 3 weeks PP) I ate whatever. (Avoided alcohol)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My OB had a stillbirth case due to lunch meat listeria.

Out of how many healthy, live births?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My OB had a stillbirth case due to lunch meat listeria.

Out of how many healthy, live births?

You could only calculate that if you got accurate self reported data from expectant mothers on whether or not they consumed lunch meats or unpasteurized cheese products. The reality is that listeriosis has statistically poor outcomes for pregnant women and their fetuses. No one needs to convince you of that. If you feel the risks are worth it, you are free to eat whatever you so choose. I would read scientific studies regarding whatever restriction you are dubious about and make your own decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I felt the same as you. Then my kid was born with special needs that were undetectable in utero. Avoid them for your peace of mind because if there is something wrong after birth you will never forgive yourself. I have gone over all the things I drank and ate, all the baby care, all the decisions I made regarding the delivery. It's been years now and I am still thinking about all this stuff. So just don't because then you won't be able to blame yourself.

I agree that this is the only reason to avoid these things - the wondering, guilt, and what if’s. But then again, if you follow all the rules, you’re still probably going to wonder if you did something wrong.

[Anonymous]

It's hardly an all or nothing decision. Eating deli meat from a freshly opened package once a week is not the same as eating deli sandwiches Monday through Friday made from deli meat that was cut at the store and has been sitting in your fridge for 2-5 days.

[Anonymous]

Microwave your tuna salad and salami sandwich

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most soft cheese in this country is made with pasteurized, not raw, milk. It's fine. I skipped the sushi, and pretty much ate everything else on the list from time to time, although less than before. (Not as if I was a huge deli meat or tuna salad eater anyway.)

Exactly, so much is pasteurized. You almost have to go out of your way to eat unpasteurized cheese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My OB had a stillbirth case due to lunch meat listeria.

Out of how many healthy, live births?

IDK I'm not her, but OP wanted reasons to take it seriously. Stillbirth is a solid reason.

[Anonymous]

Just eat whatever you want.

[Anonymous]

There is actually a paper analyzing listeriosis incidence and source that was recently published in the Journal of Midwifery and Women's Health.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jmwh.12757

Our team found that Listeria monocytogenes contamination shifted from the traditional "don't eats" into processed foods, such as precut salads, frozen vegetables, and some pasteurized dairy.

"Results
Database analysis demonstrates that prior to the year 2000, abiding by the current guidelines would have prevented all reported listeriosis cases. However, in 2015 and 2016, only 5% of confirmed L monocytogenes infections originated from the 6 food groups listed in the CDC and ACOG guidelines. Similar trends emerged for food processing plant recalls (USDA‐FSIS database) and grocery store recalls (FDA database). The total number of listeriosis illnesses in the United States doubled from 2007 to 2014.

Discussion
A gradual shift in detection of L monocytogenes contamination in ready‐to‐eat meals, frozen foods, and ready‐to‐eat salads has occurred. Another emerging culprit is pasteurized dairy products. Revision of listeriosis avoidance guidelines by a consensus‐seeking, multidisciplinary task force, is needed."

In short, "if you did not cook it, and you can't heat it, don't eat it"

We are hopeful that the CDC will eventually reevaluate its guidelines on what foods should be avoided in pregnancy. Current guidelines are over 20 years old.

In the meantime, since we are continuing to give out information that is outdated, our national rate of listeriosis cases is continuing to outpace population growth.

Regards,
the Listeria team

[Anonymous]

It’s the only thing you can control. How about that for a reason? Consider everything you cannot control in a pregnancy and all the things that could go wrong and stay away from fukn ham and tuna for a few weeks. Jesus some people. If you need convincing after everything you know just go ahead and do whatever because you obviously don’t care.

[Anonymous]

You can eat tuna, just not constantly. And one type is lower in mercury than the other. Can't remember which is which.

I don't think I really skipped any foods.