Teens/young adults (usually male) who argue with authority figures

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am female and I always argued with "authority figures" if I felt they were being unfair / bias / assholes - as a pre-teen, a teen, a young woman and a woman of middle age. I shall continue to stand for being treated with respect and equality at all times.

Perhaps these young boys and men feel the same about the way they are spoken to and / or treated.


Blasting your music in a public place is a dick move, plain and simple. The only ones not showing respect in this situation are the teens.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Read this article this morning and immediate thought of my post. Guy was 20.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-model-s-car-canada-alberta-dangerous-driving-b480486.html

So this is not about your kid? Why are you wasting our time?


It is the perfect example of “the rules don’t apply to me” mentality I was referring to.

And “wasting your time”???? This is DCUM. If that is your concern, this is the wrong website for you. All we do here is waste time.

Seriously, how are you wondering where your DS gets it from? Or perhaps you are the teen in question?


OP here. Why do you assume I am asking about my own child? I don’t have a DS. I’m just really concerned that these people I’m seeing are going to be the husbands and fathers (and business owners and political leaders) of tomorrow. It’s concerning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Read this article this morning and immediate thought of my post. Guy was 20.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-model-s-car-canada-alberta-dangerous-driving-b480486.html

So this is not about your kid? Why are you wasting our time?


It is the perfect example of “the rules don’t apply to me” mentality I was referring to.

And “wasting your time”???? This is DCUM. If that is your concern, this is the wrong website for you. All we do here is waste time.

Seriously, how are you wondering where your DS gets it from? Or perhaps you are the teen in question?


OP here. Why do you assume I am asking about my own child? I don’t have a DS. I’m just really concerned that these people I’m seeing are going to be the husbands and fathers (and business owners and political leaders) of tomorrow. It’s concerning.

You are clearly argumentative yourself. If you plan on having kids, you should know that they will copy you. If you ahve young dds, they might turn the same. Plus, what is the purpose of you being concerned? Are you going to start a public campaing to rein the young men in?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Read this article this morning and immediate thought of my post. Guy was 20.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-model-s-car-canada-alberta-dangerous-driving-b480486.html

So this is not about your kid? Why are you wasting our time?


It is the perfect example of “the rules don’t apply to me” mentality I was referring to.

And “wasting your time”???? This is DCUM. If that is your concern, this is the wrong website for you. All we do here is waste time.

Seriously, how are you wondering where your DS gets it from? Or perhaps you are the teen in question?


OP here. Why do you assume I am asking about my own child? I don’t have a DS. I’m just really concerned that these people I’m seeing are going to be the husbands and fathers (and business owners and political leaders) of tomorrow. It’s concerning.

You are clearly argumentative yourself. If you plan on having kids, you should know that they will copy you. If you ahve young dds, they might turn the same. Plus, what is the purpose of you being concerned? Are you going to start a public campaing to rein the young men in?


You seem like exactly the type of individual in question. How DARE anyone question your right to do whatever the F you want?? Amirite???
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am female and I always argued with "authority figures" if I felt they were being unfair / bias / assholes - as a pre-teen, a teen, a young woman and a woman of middle age. I shall continue to stand for being treated with respect and equality at all times.

Perhaps these young boys and men feel the same about the way they are spoken to and / or treated.


Baes on your post, it appears you are the same way.


The same way as what? Are you able to express yourself a little better than that perhaps?

DP. Above pp proved her point, well you proved her point with your eff you reply. Now we know where your ds gets it.


My DS? I have not discussed my children on this thread. Are you able to read above K level?
Anonymous
I want my kids to question authority, but to be smart enough to know when go do it and how to do it. Pissing off random adults is not a smart thing, especially in this country were so many adults can't seem to reason properly, but are permitted to arm themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Or otherwise have huge chips on their shoulders...is this a mental illness? A product of poor parenting or parental neglect? Like seriously what is this? I feel like the frequency in which this occurs is increasing exponentially. I’m talking beyond normal rebellion - most 15-25 year old boys do NOT act this way.

Example: (and don’t fixate on the specific example - but I am seeing this type of thing more and more in all areas of life)

Normal rebellion: group of teens at neighborhood pool play loud music in violation of rules, but turns it off when requested by lifeguard/pool staff to do so.

Not normal but occurring more often: same thing as above but when asks to turn it off becomes belligerent, entitled, curses, refuses or is otherwise rude to pool staff.


Coming down from the White House - DS was 14 when Trump was elected and it was seen as a license to do whatever by him and his male classmates - even though they know it's wrong, they saw the President of our country act this way daily for 4 years...it rubs off just at a time when kids are pushing back at parents - couldn't be worse timing to have a teen boy. Luckily our teen is coming through the other side. There is hope. Keep preaching though.
Anonymous
Honestly I think we’ve lowered the bar so far down in terms of civility and respect these kids don’t feel embarrassed when acting like a tool.

It’s a shame, but look at what we see from the most powerful man in the country 🤮. On the plus side, the young men that act like civilized adults have a huge leg up with dating, career wise... knowing how to read a room is huge +
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or otherwise have huge chips on their shoulders...is this a mental illness? A product of poor parenting or parental neglect? Like seriously what is this? I feel like the frequency in which this occurs is increasing exponentially. I’m talking beyond normal rebellion - most 15-25 year old boys do NOT act this way.

Example: (and don’t fixate on the specific example - but I am seeing this type of thing more and more in all areas of life)

Normal rebellion: group of teens at neighborhood pool play loud music in violation of rules, but turns it off when requested by lifeguard/pool staff to do so.

Not normal but occurring more often: same thing as above but when asks to turn it off becomes belligerent, entitled, curses, refuses or is otherwise rude to pool staff.


entitled kids take cues from entitled parents


+1

"Not *MY* Colin - HE doesn't have anger issues!!" Yeah, right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think we’ve lowered the bar so far down in terms of civility and respect these kids don’t feel embarrassed when acting like a tool.

It’s a shame, but look at what we see from the most powerful man in the country 🤮. On the plus side, the young men that act like civilized adults have a huge leg up with dating, career wise... knowing how to read a room is huge +


+1

Men child are the worst - and most laughable. Stop having a freaking tantrum, you loser - is my sentiment.
Anonymous
Teenagers who disrespect authority figures always come from homes where the adults don’t respect authority figures. It shocks me to hear adults badmouthing their child’s teacher in front of them, “oh Bobby’s teacher is such an idiot, she gave him a bad grade because she is a dumb-a**”. Guess who Bobby shows zero respect to? When I was a kid, we obeyed all adults or faced the consequences (which brought its own set of problems like inappropriate men whom we did not report). We have a saying in our house to “listen to adults and they might teach you something interesting”, which includes not interrupting when adults are talking and speaking softly in public spaces.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I think we’ve lowered the bar so far down in terms of civility and respect these kids don’t feel embarrassed when acting like a tool.

It’s a shame, but look at what we see from the most powerful man in the country 🤮. On the plus side, the young men that act like civilized adults have a huge leg up with dating, career wise... knowing how to read a room is huge +


THIS.

Teens are following the example of adults. I actually don’t see a lot of teens doing this, but adults all the time are incredibly unwilling to be compliant and follow rules.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or otherwise have huge chips on their shoulders...is this a mental illness? A product of poor parenting or parental neglect? Like seriously what is this? I feel like the frequency in which this occurs is increasing exponentially. I’m talking beyond normal rebellion - most 15-25 year old boys do NOT act this way.

Example: (and don’t fixate on the specific example - but I am seeing this type of thing more and more in all areas of life)

Normal rebellion: group of teens at neighborhood pool play loud music in violation of rules, but turns it off when requested by lifeguard/pool staff to do so.

Not normal but occurring more often: same thing as above but when asks to turn it off becomes belligerent, entitled, curses, refuses or is otherwise rude to pool staff.


Well, it's kind of trendy right now....


It’s not trendy. It’s poor parenting. Indulging these children, lack of manners, and respect for themselves and others. If your child acts this way to others, you have failed as a parent.


Taught to challenge authority. "My kid isn't going to do something just because someone told him to."

It stems from teaching kids personal safety, saying "no" to adults in certain situations. Somewhere along the line the message was messed up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am female and I always argued with "authority figures" if I felt they were being unfair / bias / assholes - as a pre-teen, a teen, a young woman and a woman of middle age. I shall continue to stand for being treated with respect and equality at all times.

Perhaps these young boys and men feel the same about the way they are spoken to and / or treated.


Blasting your music in a public place is a dick move, plain and simple. The only ones not showing respect in this situation are the teens.


And?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or otherwise have huge chips on their shoulders...is this a mental illness? A product of poor parenting or parental neglect? Like seriously what is this? I feel like the frequency in which this occurs is increasing exponentially. I’m talking beyond normal rebellion - most 15-25 year old boys do NOT act this way.

Example: (and don’t fixate on the specific example - but I am seeing this type of thing more and more in all areas of life)

Normal rebellion: group of teens at neighborhood pool play loud music in violation of rules, but turns it off when requested by lifeguard/pool staff to do so.

Not normal but occurring more often: same thing as above but when asks to turn it off becomes belligerent, entitled, curses, refuses or is otherwise rude to pool staff.


entitled kids take cues from entitled parents


+1 This example is all about the poor job parents are doing modeling appropriate behavior for their kids. Maybe the parents are all mentally ill?
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