Sleep Train At 4 Months Old?

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Anonymous wrote:We loosely started 12 hours by 12 weeks at 8 weeks and our 6 month old has slept through the night since 3.5 months

Some babies sleep through the nigh early (although 3.5 is pretty nuts -- probably a lie). But not all babies do. For babies who wake up at night, it's not fair to torture them with being left to scream. No, coming in and telling them you're there and then leaving again is not what they are asking for. They are asking to be fed. They need it. They have that right when they're 4 months old.

People who sleep train small babies are sickening. CIO will be looked on as barbaric in another 20 years (probably when your own kids start having kids, and you try to tell them "We did it and you turned out fine" and they will exchange a knowing look with their spouse and say, "Yeah, we've decided not to go that route but thanks for the advice."

PP here. Both my kids and other friends kids had babies sleeping 8-12 hours a night by 3 months because of sleep training. Both mine started sleeping 11-12 hours a night once we sleep trained. A friend of mine did it at 2 months old and he is the happiest kid I know.

Both my husband and I are in healthcare ( nurse and doctor) and felt it was important for them and us.

It's not normal for a 12 month old to sleep for 12 hour stretches at night. It's just not.

Meant it's not normal for a 3 month old to sleep 12 hours a night. That's an insane expectation.

It isn’t required but a child can go that long.

I didn’t sleep train train one of my kids because he was a good sleeper. He was sleeping 5 hour stretches at 4 weeks old, 8 hour stretches at 2 months old, and 11 hour stretches at 3 months old. He started sleeping 12 hour stretches at 6 months old. He got all of his calories in during the day and loved his sleep.

[Anonymous]

OP just remember sleep training, teaching baby to fall asleep independently is not the same as night weaning. Feel free to keep feeds if you know baby needs them. Ignore posters who mix up the two and think you’ll be leaving baby to scream when hungry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We loosely started 12 hours by 12 weeks at 8 weeks and our 6 month old has slept through the night since 3.5 months

Some babies sleep through the nigh early (although 3.5 is pretty nuts -- probably a lie). But not all babies do. For babies who wake up at night, it's not fair to torture them with being left to scream. No, coming in and telling them you're there and then leaving again is not what they are asking for. They are asking to be fed. They need it. They have that right when they're 4 months old.

People who sleep train small babies are sickening. CIO will be looked on as barbaric in another 20 years (probably when your own kids start having kids, and you try to tell them "We did it and you turned out fine" and they will exchange a knowing look with their spouse and say, "Yeah, we've decided not to go that route but thanks for the advice."

PP here. Both my kids and other friends kids had babies sleeping 8-12 hours a night by 3 months because of sleep training. Both mine started sleeping 11-12 hours a night once we sleep trained. A friend of mine did it at 2 months old and he is the happiest kid I know.

Both my husband and I are in healthcare ( nurse and doctor) and felt it was important for them and us.

It's not normal for a 12 month old to sleep for 12 hour stretches at night. It's just not.

Yes it is. A 12 month old doesn’t beed to be fed at night is capable of going that long without eating. You’re trying to educate people but yet you seem very uneducated on the topic. Please stop. You’re making yourself look like a fool. No one needs this CIO is cr
uel stuff. OP plans to sleep train in and doesn’t need your arm chair thoughts.

I already clarified that I meant a 3 month old, not a 12 month old. It was a typo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:4 months and it was the best parenting decision we made. Babies need good quality sleep to thrive. It is cruel to let them be over tired all the time. Took 3 nights.

OP here. He was a happy baby when he was getting quality sleep 0-3 months and then it just got bad. He is always cranky and rarely happy now because he is so tired. Even when he was 0-1 and waking up every 2-3 hours to eat, he was still happy because he was getting sleep. He had such a mood change and was always happy when awake when he started sleeping 5 and then 8 hour stretches and getting good naps. Now he will cry or fuss almost all day. He will yawn and run his eyes but then he won’t sleep very long. He went from putting himself to sleep to needing to be rocked for 20-30 minutes to go to sleep.

We will do a gentle Ferber method with the 3, 5, 10 minute check-ins, etc.

The same thing going on during the day is also going on at night, most likely teething. What's wrong with rocking a baby to sleep for 20-30 minutes? Jesus, that's too much comfort to give your own baby?

Because it's not 20-30 minutes. I would have had NO PROBLEM rocking my baby for 20-30 minutes. But I did that, she woke up as soon as she hit the crib. Then she would wake up after 45 minutes, wash rinse repeat all night. Frankly you are a misogynist who expects women to sit and rock their babies all night long and never sleep.

[Anonymous]

See the bolded below. This is from the Sleep Foundation. Some parents expect too much of their tiny babies.

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/articles/when-do-babies-sleep-through-night

Most new parents crave the day when they put their infant down at night—and don’t need to return to the crib until the morning. Unfortunately, despite the fact that newborns sleep about 14 to 17 hours in a 24-hour day, they don’t string many of those hours together during the first few months. What’s more, some babies reverse their day and night sleep schedule, meaning they end up snoozing more during the daylight hours than at night, a condition appropriately called “day-night reversal.”

For parents, all of this means that the large chunk of sleep they’ve grown accustomed to during the after-dark hours disappears, and they find themselves trying to sneak in an hour or two whenever and wherever they can in order to hit the amount of sleep recommended by experts. But take heart: All babies eventually learn to sleep through the night. This timeline gives guidance on when it will happen:

Birth to Three Months

Every baby is different, but most infants this age will sleep between 14 and 17 hours a day, including naps. Some newborns might get by on less (11 to 13 hours) and a few prefer more sleep time (18 or 19 hours). Your best bet at this stage is to rest when your baby does and know that waking several times at night to feed is completely normal.

Three to Six Months

You’re getting a little closer to a solid sleep schedule, but it might not be the full night you were hoping for just yet. After four months of age, your baby will likely sleep between 12 and 15 hours a day, including naps. And many infants between three and six months are able to sleep five hours at a time, which experts consider “sleeping through the night.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:See the bolded below. This is from the Sleep Foundation. Some parents expect too much of their tiny babies.

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/articles/when-do-babies-sleep-through-night

Most new parents crave the day when they put their infant down at night—and don’t need to return to the crib until the morning. Unfortunately, despite the fact that newborns sleep about 14 to 17 hours in a 24-hour day, they don’t string many of those hours together during the first few months. What’s more, some babies reverse their day and night sleep schedule, meaning they end up snoozing more during the daylight hours than at night, a condition appropriately called “day-night reversal.”

For parents, all of this means that the large chunk of sleep they’ve grown accustomed to during the after-dark hours disappears, and they find themselves trying to sneak in an hour or two whenever and wherever they can in order to hit the amount of sleep recommended by experts. But take heart: All babies eventually learn to sleep through the night. This timeline gives guidance on when it will happen:

Birth to Three Months

Every baby is different, but most infants this age will sleep between 14 and 17 hours a day, including naps. Some newborns might get by on less (11 to 13 hours) and a few prefer more sleep time (18 or 19 hours). Your best bet at this stage is to rest when your baby does and know that waking several times at night to feed is completely normal.

Three to Six Months

You’re getting a little closer to a solid sleep schedule, but it might not be the full night you were hoping for just yet. After four months of age, your baby will likely sleep between 12 and 15 hours a day, including naps. And many infants between three and six months are able to sleep five hours at a time, which experts consider “sleeping through the night.”

HAHAHAHAH
The Sleep Foundation is a mattress industry lobbying group.

Again, I'll go with the advice of Dr Richard Ferber, who advocates for CIO and is the director of The Center for Pediatric Sleep Disorders, at Children's Hospital Boston.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 months and it was the best parenting decision we made. Babies need good quality sleep to thrive. It is cruel to let them be over tired all the time. Took 3 nights.

OP here. He was a happy baby when he was getting quality sleep 0-3 months and then it just got bad. He is always cranky and rarely happy now because he is so tired. Even when he was 0-1 and waking up every 2-3 hours to eat, he was still happy because he was getting sleep. He had such a mood change and was always happy when awake when he started sleeping 5 and then 8 hour stretches and getting good naps. Now he will cry or fuss almost all day. He will yawn and run his eyes but then he won’t sleep very long. He went from putting himself to sleep to needing to be rocked for 20-30 minutes to go to sleep.

We will do a gentle Ferber method with the 3, 5, 10 minute check-ins, etc.

The same thing going on during the day is also going on at night, most likely teething. What's wrong with rocking a baby to sleep for 20-30 minutes? Jesus, that's too much comfort to give your own baby?

Because it's not 20-30 minutes. I would have had NO PROBLEM rocking my baby for 20-30 minutes. But I did that, she woke up as soon as she hit the crib. Then she would wake up after 45 minutes, wash rinse repeat all night. Frankly you are a misogynist who expects women to sit and rock their babies all night long and never sleep.

Huh? Are you the PP above, who said your baby "went from putting himself to sleep to needing to be rocked for 20-30 minutes to go to sleep"??? That's the post I was responding to, super genius. If that's you, then why are you rewriting yourself now? And if it's not you, what are you responding for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP just remember sleep training, teaching baby to fall asleep independently is not the same as night weaning. Feel free to keep feeds if you know baby needs them. Ignore posters who mix up the two and think you’ll be leaving baby to scream when hungry.

OP here. He doesn’t eat at night except for one wake up. He wakes up and can’t put himself back to sleep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See the bolded below. This is from the Sleep Foundation. Some parents expect too much of their tiny babies.

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/articles/when-do-babies-sleep-through-night

Most new parents crave the day when they put their infant down at night—and don’t need to return to the crib until the morning. Unfortunately, despite the fact that newborns sleep about 14 to 17 hours in a 24-hour day, they don’t string many of those hours together during the first few months. What’s more, some babies reverse their day and night sleep schedule, meaning they end up snoozing more during the daylight hours than at night, a condition appropriately called “day-night reversal.”

For parents, all of this means that the large chunk of sleep they’ve grown accustomed to during the after-dark hours disappears, and they find themselves trying to sneak in an hour or two whenever and wherever they can in order to hit the amount of sleep recommended by experts. But take heart: All babies eventually learn to sleep through the night. This timeline gives guidance on when it will happen:

Birth to Three Months

Every baby is different, but most infants this age will sleep between 14 and 17 hours a day, including naps. Some newborns might get by on less (11 to 13 hours) and a few prefer more sleep time (18 or 19 hours). Your best bet at this stage is to rest when your baby does and know that waking several times at night to feed is completely normal.

Three to Six Months

You’re getting a little closer to a solid sleep schedule, but it might not be the full night you were hoping for just yet. After four months of age, your baby will likely sleep between 12 and 15 hours a day, including naps. And many infants between three and six months are able to sleep five hours at a time, which experts consider “sleeping through the night.”

HAHAHAHAH
The Sleep Foundation is a mattress industry lobbying group.

Again, I'll go with the advice of Dr Richard Ferber, who advocates for CIO and is the director of The Center for Pediatric Sleep Disorders, at Children's Hospital Boston.

See, the people who push for letting babies cry are pretty mean spirited posters. Why is that a surprise?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4 months and it was the best parenting decision we made. Babies need good quality sleep to thrive. It is cruel to let them be over tired all the time. Took 3 nights.

OP here. He was a happy baby when he was getting quality sleep 0-3 months and then it just got bad. He is always cranky and rarely happy now because he is so tired. Even when he was 0-1 and waking up every 2-3 hours to eat, he was still happy because he was getting sleep. He had such a mood change and was always happy when awake when he started sleeping 5 and then 8 hour stretches and getting good naps. Now he will cry or fuss almost all day. He will yawn and run his eyes but then he won’t sleep very long. He went from putting himself to sleep to needing to be rocked for 20-30 minutes to go to sleep.

We will do a gentle Ferber method with the 3, 5, 10 minute check-ins, etc.

The same thing going on during the day is also going on at night, most likely teething. What's wrong with rocking a baby to sleep for 20-30 minutes? Jesus, that's too much comfort to give your own baby?

Because it's not 20-30 minutes. I would have had NO PROBLEM rocking my baby for 20-30 minutes. But I did that, she woke up as soon as she hit the crib. Then she would wake up after 45 minutes, wash rinse repeat all night. Frankly you are a misogynist who expects women to sit and rock their babies all night long and never sleep.

Huh? Are you the PP above, who said your baby "went from putting himself to sleep to needing to be rocked for 20-30 minutes to go to sleep"??? That's the post I was responding to, super genius. If that's you, then why are you rewriting yourself now? And if it's not you, what are you responding for?

Because I had to SLEEP TRAIN. What would you have had me do if you were in my situation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP just remember sleep training, teaching baby to fall asleep independently is not the same as night weaning. Feel free to keep feeds if you know baby needs them. Ignore posters who mix up the two and think you’ll be leaving baby to scream when hungry.

OP here. He doesn’t eat at night except for one wake up. He wakes up and can’t put himself back to sleep.

Are you trying to feed him and he isn't interested?

[Anonymous]

OP here. We are going to start sleep training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:See the bolded below. This is from the Sleep Foundation. Some parents expect too much of their tiny babies.

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/articles/when-do-babies-sleep-through-night

Most new parents crave the day when they put their infant down at night—and don’t need to return to the crib until the morning. Unfortunately, despite the fact that newborns sleep about 14 to 17 hours in a 24-hour day, they don’t string many of those hours together during the first few months. What’s more, some babies reverse their day and night sleep schedule, meaning they end up snoozing more during the daylight hours than at night, a condition appropriately called “day-night reversal.”

For parents, all of this means that the large chunk of sleep they’ve grown accustomed to during the after-dark hours disappears, and they find themselves trying to sneak in an hour or two whenever and wherever they can in order to hit the amount of sleep recommended by experts. But take heart: All babies eventually learn to sleep through the night. This timeline gives guidance on when it will happen:

Birth to Three Months

Every baby is different, but most infants this age will sleep between 14 and 17 hours a day, including naps. Some newborns might get by on less (11 to 13 hours) and a few prefer more sleep time (18 or 19 hours). Your best bet at this stage is to rest when your baby does and know that waking several times at night to feed is completely normal.

Three to Six Months

You’re getting a little closer to a solid sleep schedule, but it might not be the full night you were hoping for just yet. After four months of age, your baby will likely sleep between 12 and 15 hours a day, including naps. And many infants between three and six months are able to sleep five hours at a time, which experts consider “sleeping through the night.”

HAHAHAHAH
The Sleep Foundation is a mattress industry lobbying group.

Again, I'll go with the advice of Dr Richard Ferber, who advocates for CIO and is the director of The Center for Pediatric Sleep Disorders, at Children's Hospital Boston.

See, the people who push for letting babies cry are pretty mean spirited posters. Why is that a surprise?

Umm it's your side (or you) sarcastically calling someone a "super genius". PP just laughed.

[Anonymous]

No. Way too young. Just hang in there.

[Anonymous]

Again, not hearing a lot of scientific evidence from the anti-CIO crowd (mattress blog non withstanding). Please tell me why you are more qualified than the medical doctors and researchers.