Excessive fitness training

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is really the context not the requirement of fitness.

Most kids are not in shape having missed a spring season and that should not be a surprise to any rational adult or coach.

Normally lack of fitness with players could be more punitive but with a protracted quarantine during the entirety of the spring season a lack of fitness across an entire team should be expected and dealt with more pragmatically.

Getting back into shape always sucks but piling on kids who may have had varying degrees of opportunity to stay in soccer shape is the wrong message at this particular time.

Just encourage the kids and lay out a proper plan to get them back to where they need to be. Using scare tactics are unnecessary at this point when most kids are in the same boat.

Problem is most soccer coaches are people that played in college and then got some coaching licenses. 99% of coaches have no idea how to lay out a "proper" plan that addresses everything a soccer player needs. Most coaches just make kids do whatever they did when they were young. What really needs to happen is that clubs get certified strength and condition professionals on staff. People that actually went to school for this to create and oversee a proper plan. Most coaches don't even know...should kids static stretch before a game? After? Is running laps OK? What if they do it with a ball? Should I have them do sprints? Well what's the best distance? When are we training speed vs conditioning? Are ladders good or bad? Can coaches correct running mechanics? Can they identify imbalances/other mechanical issues? Should coaches talk to kids about diet? That's a whole different topic.

What are the answers to these questions? Is running laps ok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is really the context not the requirement of fitness.

Most kids are not in shape having missed a spring season and that should not be a surprise to any rational adult or coach.

Normally lack of fitness with players could be more punitive but with a protracted quarantine during the entirety of the spring season a lack of fitness across an entire team should be expected and dealt with more pragmatically.

Getting back into shape always sucks but piling on kids who may have had varying degrees of opportunity to stay in soccer shape is the wrong message at this particular time.

Just encourage the kids and lay out a proper plan to get them back to where they need to be. Using scare tactics are unnecessary at this point when most kids are in the same boat.

Problem is most soccer coaches are people that played in college and then got some coaching licenses. 99% of coaches have no idea how to lay out a "proper" plan that addresses everything a soccer player needs. Most coaches just make kids do whatever they did when they were young. What really needs to happen is that clubs get certified strength and condition professionals on staff. People that actually went to school for this to create and oversee a proper plan. Most coaches don't even know...should kids static stretch before a game? After? Is running laps OK? What if they do it with a ball? Should I have them do sprints? Well what's the best distance? When are we training speed vs conditioning? Are ladders good or bad? Can coaches correct running mechanics? Can they identify imbalances/other mechanical issues? Should coaches talk to kids about diet? That's a whole different topic.

What are the answers to these questions? Is running laps ok?

No, you never see a soccer player running without a ball on the field

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is really the context not the requirement of fitness.

Most kids are not in shape having missed a spring season and that should not be a surprise to any rational adult or coach.

Normally lack of fitness with players could be more punitive but with a protracted quarantine during the entirety of the spring season a lack of fitness across an entire team should be expected and dealt with more pragmatically.

Getting back into shape always sucks but piling on kids who may have had varying degrees of opportunity to stay in soccer shape is the wrong message at this particular time.

Just encourage the kids and lay out a proper plan to get them back to where they need to be. Using scare tactics are unnecessary at this point when most kids are in the same boat.

Problem is most soccer coaches are people that played in college and then got some coaching licenses. 99% of coaches have no idea how to lay out a "proper" plan that addresses everything a soccer player needs. Most coaches just make kids do whatever they did when they were young. What really needs to happen is that clubs get certified strength and condition professionals on staff. People that actually went to school for this to create and oversee a proper plan. Most coaches don't even know...should kids static stretch before a game? After? Is running laps OK? What if they do it with a ball? Should I have them do sprints? Well what's the best distance? When are we training speed vs conditioning? Are ladders good or bad? Can coaches correct running mechanics? Can they identify imbalances/other mechanical issues? Should coaches talk to kids about diet? That's a whole different topic.

What are the answers to these questions? Is running laps ok?

No, you never see a soccer player running without a ball on the field

Ummmm, not true. Each player spends very little time with the ball during a game. I'm not saying that they should run laps, but your statement was not true.

[Anonymous]

OP is a player that can’t keep up with the rest of the team when do fitness and is blaming the coach. In our team there are a few players than can’t run more than one lap to the field mainly because they are lazy. What it is hilarious is that they dream that they are national team material. They are a joke.

[Anonymous]

A coach that makes kids run laps is not a coach that is going to get their kids to the next level.

[Anonymous]

No laps:

https://www.nfhs.org/articles/is-long-distance-running-really-important-in-soccer-training/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No laps:

https://www.nfhs.org/articles/is-long-distance-running-really-important-in-soccer-training/

Smart ass there is no way they can run those distances on a soccer field? 300s?

Usually they end up doing laps because the distance of the training space is too small.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A coach that makes kids run laps is not a coach that is going to get their kids to the next level.

I watched the liverpool vídeo someone posted, they were running laps ....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A coach that makes kids run laps is not a coach that is going to get their kids to the next level.

I watched the liverpool vídeo someone posted, they were running laps ....

Mesut OZIL of all people runs 5-7 miles per day. This is preposterous nonsense. Of course they run. I don't know if you need to do that in travel soccer practices. You can certainly ask your players to do that outside practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A coach that makes kids run laps is not a coach that is going to get their kids to the next level.

I watched the liverpool vídeo someone posted, they were running laps ....

Mesut OZIL of all people runs 5-7 miles per day. This is preposterous nonsense. Of course they run. I don't know if you need to do that in travel soccer practices. You can certainly ask your players to do that outside practice.

The original post is shockingly soft, find the right level for your kid. “Can’t stand the heat, stay out the kitchen”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A coach that makes kids run laps is not a coach that is going to get their kids to the next level.

+1. "Sport is characterized by who can run fastest most often, not who can sustain a medium pace the longest. Speed kills!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A coach that makes kids run laps is not a coach that is going to get their kids to the next level.

+1. "Sport is characterized by who can run fastest most often, not who can sustain a medium pace the longest. Speed kills!"

So does endurance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is really the context not the requirement of fitness.

Most kids are not in shape having missed a spring season and that should not be a surprise to any rational adult or coach.

Normally lack of fitness with players could be more punitive but with a protracted quarantine during the entirety of the spring season a lack of fitness across an entire team should be expected and dealt with more pragmatically.

Getting back into shape always sucks but piling on kids who may have had varying degrees of opportunity to stay in soccer shape is the wrong message at this particular time.

Just encourage the kids and lay out a proper plan to get them back to where they need to be. Using scare tactics are unnecessary at this point when most kids are in the same boat.

Problem is most soccer coaches are people that played in college and then got some coaching licenses. 99% of coaches have no idea how to lay out a "proper" plan that addresses everything a soccer player needs. Most coaches just make kids do whatever they did when they were young. What really needs to happen is that clubs get certified strength and condition professionals on staff. People that actually went to school for this to create and oversee a proper plan. Most coaches don't even know...should kids static stretch before a game? After? Is running laps OK? What if they do it with a ball? Should I have them do sprints? Well what's the best distance? When are we training speed vs conditioning? Are ladders good or bad? Can coaches correct running mechanics? Can they identify imbalances/other mechanical issues? Should coaches talk to kids about diet? That's a whole different topic.

What are the answers to these questions? Is running laps ok?

No, you never see a soccer player running without a ball on the field

Ummmm, not true. Each player spends very little time with the ball during a game. I'm not saying that they should run laps, but your statement was not true.

I think pp was answering running laps for exercise and referring to running without a ball on the field [during practice]. Not a game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is really the context not the requirement of fitness.

Most kids are not in shape having missed a spring season and that should not be a surprise to any rational adult or coach.

Normally lack of fitness with players could be more punitive but with a protracted quarantine during the entirety of the spring season a lack of fitness across an entire team should be expected and dealt with more pragmatically.

Getting back into shape always sucks but piling on kids who may have had varying degrees of opportunity to stay in soccer shape is the wrong message at this particular time.

Just encourage the kids and lay out a proper plan to get them back to where they need to be. Using scare tactics are unnecessary at this point when most kids are in the same boat.

Problem is most soccer coaches are people that played in college and then got some coaching licenses. 99% of coaches have no idea how to lay out a "proper" plan that addresses everything a soccer player needs. Most coaches just make kids do whatever they did when they were young. What really needs to happen is that clubs get certified strength and condition professionals on staff. People that actually went to school for this to create and oversee a proper plan. Most coaches don't even know...should kids static stretch before a game? After? Is running laps OK? What if they do it with a ball? Should I have them do sprints? Well what's the best distance? When are we training speed vs conditioning? Are ladders good or bad? Can coaches correct running mechanics? Can they identify imbalances/other mechanical issues? Should coaches talk to kids about diet? That's a whole different topic.

What are the answers to these questions? Is running laps ok?

No, you never see a soccer player running without a ball on the field

Really? 1 player runs while 10 teammates and 11 opponents stay still?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the problem is really the context not the requirement of fitness.

Most kids are not in shape having missed a spring season and that should not be a surprise to any rational adult or coach.

Normally lack of fitness with players could be more punitive but with a protracted quarantine during the entirety of the spring season a lack of fitness across an entire team should be expected and dealt with more pragmatically.

Getting back into shape always sucks but piling on kids who may have had varying degrees of opportunity to stay in soccer shape is the wrong message at this particular time.

Just encourage the kids and lay out a proper plan to get them back to where they need to be. Using scare tactics are unnecessary at this point when most kids are in the same boat.

Problem is most soccer coaches are people that played in college and then got some coaching licenses. 99% of coaches have no idea how to lay out a "proper" plan that addresses everything a soccer player needs. Most coaches just make kids do whatever they did when they were young. What really needs to happen is that clubs get certified strength and condition professionals on staff. People that actually went to school for this to create and oversee a proper plan. Most coaches don't even know...should kids static stretch before a game? After? Is running laps OK? What if they do it with a ball? Should I have them do sprints? Well what's the best distance? When are we training speed vs conditioning? Are ladders good or bad? Can coaches correct running mechanics? Can they identify imbalances/other mechanical issues? Should coaches talk to kids about diet? That's a whole different topic.

What are the answers to these questions? Is running laps ok?

No, you never see a soccer player running without a ball on the field

What about sprints without the ball? Are those okay?