Charter reaction to DCPS announcement

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Anonymous wrote:Outdoor school would not need to mimic indoor school. Best for elementary school ages, when so much learning is experiential. I think it would be harder for, say, calculus. They don't need desks or chalkboards necessarily. But they do need innovative administrators and educators.

How do you suggest they do stations, work with math manipulatives, color or do art activities, have enough reading books all at different levels outdoors for 25 kids?

So what, the kids are going to learn how to do math problems in their heads without writing down groupings or using blocks? They are going to learn spelling by putting words together in their head? Of course they are going to need a desk. Along those lines, how do you expect them to learn to write letters, words, or sentences? Juggling a notebook while sitting in the grass? Great form and example there.

Not going to work without the typical accessories and things needed for learning. So let’s bring out a million things outside for hundreds of kids and have it sitting in the grass and mud. Then lug it back in again.

Do you even have an elementary age child?

NP. My four-year-old is not going to be learning much math or spelling via the iPAD while my husband and I desperately try to do our jobs. DL was largely fictional in the spring for him and it's going to be fictional in the fall, no matter how hard his school tries (and they are legitimately trying very hard), because he is not developmentally ready for it. Sitting on the grass alternating being read to, running around, being taught by a teacher writing on a portable whiteboard-- all of these would be a better experience for him than what's currently planned, because they would be in-person. Obviously it would not be the same as in-classroom school. But that's not the alternative here. The alternative is that we all pretend that DL school is school, like if I close my eyes and wish really hard it'll be the case that these kids aren't about to miss out on another year of education.

Your kid is 4 and schooling is not mandatory. Get over yourself. Parents of kids who are older have legitimate concerns. People whose kids are in PreK are just complaining. Put your kid in daycare.

THIS. The ECE parents just need to stop with the complaint and whining.

I also have a 6-year-old. It's not going to be much less fictional for her, either.

We have a soon to be 6 year old going into 1st. Absolutely need a pencil, paper, desk, chair, math manipulatives, books, etc..

I don’t know what your 6 year old is doing at your charter but ours is doing math addition/subtraction 10-20, working on writing sentences and spelling, and reading books. DL can’t take the place of live in school teaching but the DL was good at our charter and kids moved forward.

[Anonymous]

This anti-outdoor poster is so very literal. I wasn't saying it had to be an outdoor only solution. I was saying small charters should have the flexibility and creativity to open in ways maybe DCPS cannot and it's sad to see these schools all following the mayor.

Before, the "oh no there are bees" poster chimes in, there are aftercare programs opening full time in public schools. So, yes, some in person education will happen at privates and for public school kids even (it will just cost money). So, I'd rather it be run through the school using tax dollars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This anti-outdoor poster is so very literal. I wasn't saying it had to be an outdoor only solution. I was saying small charters should have the flexibility and creativity to open in ways maybe DCPS cannot and it's sad to see these schools all following the mayor.

Before, the "oh no there are bees" poster chimes in, there are aftercare programs opening full time in public schools. So, yes, some in person education will happen at privates and for public school kids even (it will just cost money). So, I'd rather it be run through the school using tax dollars.

So let us get this straight. You are saying you want your charter to do in school classroom in addition to outdoor classrooms??

FYI, lots of private’s in DC just announced DL for the start of the school year. The few others will follow.

What aftercare program in DC is opening up at the public school?

[Anonymous]

The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

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My charter school is doing very limited in-person. The cost is 10x what it cost for regular school. Families and staff who opt in have to commit to daily temperature checks when coming on site, masks or face shields at all times, testing before starting the program and regularly thereafter. Kids who go in person are still following the virtual learning that's the same for their classmates who aren't coming to school. Sure it will be worth it for the few parents who get to go back to work but the benefits seem somewhat limited for those who will be in-person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

What in the world are you so angry about? It's seeming to color your reason. The main point stands, charters had the opportunity to be more creative than DCPS but it seems, so far, they are not being.

We will see how many will end up following the DCPS daily schedule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

What in the world are you so angry about? It's seeming to color your reason. The main point stands, charters had the opportunity to be more creative than DCPS but it seems, so far, they are not being.

We will see how many will end up following the DCPS daily schedule.

Creative in the middle of a pandemic where health is at risk? Even if charters could safely be creative, where is the extra money going to come from. You do know that DCPS doesn't finance its own buildings or building improvements, right? If my charter has to revamp HVAC, it has to do that from operating funds or borrow the money. My school spent $150k cleaning vents, prepping spaces and buying PPE in the spring when we thought we were going back to school. They didn't get any extra money for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

What in the world are you so angry about? It's seeming to color your reason. The main point stands, charters had the opportunity to be more creative than DCPS but it seems, so far, they are not being.

We will see how many will end up following the DCPS daily schedule.

More than a third of charters announced distance learning before DCPS. Do you mean how many charters did it take for DCPS to finally decide to follow the charters and the surrounding DMV counties?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

What in the world are you so angry about? It's seeming to color your reason. The main point stands, charters had the opportunity to be more creative than DCPS but it seems, so far, they are not being.

We will see how many will end up following the DCPS daily schedule.

More than a third of charters announced distance learning before DCPS. Do you mean how many charters did it take for DCPS to finally decide to follow the charters and the surrounding DMV counties?

+1. Also our charter had a great DL in the spring. They are not going to follow the DCPS schedule template. How do I know? Because we already know what the general schedule is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

What in the world are you so angry about? It's seeming to color your reason. The main point stands, charters had the opportunity to be more creative than DCPS but it seems, so far, they are not being.

We will see how many will end up following the DCPS daily schedule.

Creative in the middle of a pandemic where health is at risk? Even if charters could safely be creative, where is the extra money going to come from. You do know that DCPS doesn't finance its own buildings or building improvements, right? If my charter has to revamp HVAC, it has to do that from operating funds or borrow the money. My school spent $150k cleaning vents, prepping spaces and buying PPE in the spring when we thought we were going back to school. They didn't get any extra money for this.

Didn’t a number of charters receive PPP loans/grants? What have they done with that money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

What in the world are you so angry about? It's seeming to color your reason. The main point stands, charters had the opportunity to be more creative than DCPS but it seems, so far, they are not being.

We will see how many will end up following the DCPS daily schedule.

Creative in the middle of a pandemic where health is at risk? Even if charters could safely be creative, where is the extra money going to come from. You do know that DCPS doesn't finance its own buildings or building improvements, right? If my charter has to revamp HVAC, it has to do that from operating funds or borrow the money. My school spent $150k cleaning vents, prepping spaces and buying PPE in the spring when we thought we were going back to school. They didn't get any extra money for this.

Didn’t a number of charters receive PPP loans/grants? What have they done with that money?

OMG you are clueless. That’s not money for building or ventilation changes. That money is for businesses to retain and keep paying their staff during a pandemic so people don’t lose their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

What in the world are you so angry about? It's seeming to color your reason. The main point stands, charters had the opportunity to be more creative than DCPS but it seems, so far, they are not being.

We will see how many will end up following the DCPS daily schedule.

More than a third of charters announced distance learning before DCPS. Do you mean how many charters did it take for DCPS to finally decide to follow the charters and the surrounding DMV counties?

Nope. That's not what I meant. I meant the 2/3 that were hoping to open with hybrid schedules that decided to follow DCPS and do virtual only gave up their chance for making use of autonomy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The YMCA is opening to take younger kids and has said they will accommodate kids DL programs. I assume they will be grouping kids from the same schools together for the lessons.
I know some other daycares that also host aftercare programs are doing the same. So, maybe this is what pp was talking about?

This plus knowing that Janney's aftercare program is trying to run in the actual school building and Takoma ES also. Not sure if they will be successful but those are plans trying to be made.

YMCA and whoever can do whatever they want and assume liability if kids get Covid or bring it home to families. It’s not school. It’s daycare offering to help DL that is provided by the school.

Totally not the same or comparable. Above daycare places can close when someone gets Covid and it doesn’t impact the academics. With schools yes it will significantly impact the academics when classes have to shut down, open again to only shut down. When teachers get Covid and there’s not enough teachers to teach, etc..

People on here just don’t get it.

Janney and Takoma PTA can try to do whatever they want. It doesn’t mean they will get permission to do it at a DCOS school. Why don’t you get back to us when it’s up and running at Janney and Takoma.

What in the world are you so angry about? It's seeming to color your reason. The main point stands, charters had the opportunity to be more creative than DCPS but it seems, so far, they are not being.

We will see how many will end up following the DCPS daily schedule.

Creative in the middle of a pandemic where health is at risk? Even if charters could safely be creative, where is the extra money going to come from. You do know that DCPS doesn't finance its own buildings or building improvements, right? If my charter has to revamp HVAC, it has to do that from operating funds or borrow the money. My school spent $150k cleaning vents, prepping spaces and buying PPE in the spring when we thought we were going back to school. They didn't get any extra money for this.

Didn’t a number of charters receive PPP loans/grants? What have they done with that money?

OMG you are clueless. That’s not money for building or ventilation changes. That money is for businesses to retain and keep paying their staff during a pandemic so people don’t lose their jobs.

To be fair the the poster, the only staff that might have lost jobs were hourly aftercare teachers. FTEs should have been fully paid already out of the SY19/20 budget.