Economist- Let them learn- The risks of keeping schools closed far outweigh the benefits
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Anonymous
People say that but then they oppose higher taxes. Schools didn't get this way overnight, they have been consistently underfunded by the same people who are now screaming they should be open in a pandemic. It's pretty rich to talk about a teacher's "sense of responsibility" when the PTA is holding bingo night fundraisers because public funding for schools has been inadequate for decades. We have the means in this country to double or triple (or more) the number of public schools and have everyone in person this fall in classes of 10 or fewer. We just lack the "sense of responsibility" to make it happen. |
Anonymous
Unless you have a governess, you’re doing it wrong. /s |
Anonymous
Teachers were “screaming for shutdowns” because they knew all too well how woefully unprepared schools are for handling a public health crisis (lack of supplies, lack of resources/$$, lack of understanding and support for education/teachers/students, lack of leadership) and therefore it would not be safe to reopen schools. |
Anonymous
You’re right on the macro issues, but then you’re refusing to find solutions right now. Schools were defunded for too long. Yes. So we just give up on all kids during a pandemic? I mean why are you choosing that response to a post about finding solutions RIGHT NOW? |
Anonymous
You should have stopped at “I don’t have kids”..... And no one needs your f-ing soap. |
Anonymous
So don’t pretend the reason you don’t want to teach is because you don’t have soap. The reason is you’re getting paid to sit at home and want to continue doing so. I don’t need to have kids to care about future generations. Your attitude about that proves how selfish your perspective is. I’m not adversely impacted by schools being closed, if anything it’s better for me to deal with less traffic and have less of my taxes going to school upkeep. But I actually want to help kids and their parents get this done, and I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is. |
Anonymous
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The re-election campaign desperately wants schools to reopen so they can claim there's an economic recovery by Nov 3. I suspect the people starting thread after thread on this are working to further that effort.
Some of the people responding in the threads are part of that campaign, but I assume some are just freaked-out parents who don't realize they're playing into a scam. |
Anonymous
This. I can't believe that schools are closed but people are allowed to have hand picked tutors and 8 kids in their house being home schooled in person. |
Anonymous
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I cut and pasted the article below on why schools should open. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-case-for-reopening-schools-11594681985
July 19, 2020 The Case for Reopening Schools The harm from lost instruction outweighs the Covid-19 risks. By The Editorial Board July 13, 2020 7:13 pm ET Everything else about the coronavirus has become politicized in America, so why not a return to school as well? That’s the depressing state of play as President Trump pushes schools to reopen while Democrats heed teachers unions that demand more federal money and even then may not return. The losers, as ever, would be the children. *** The evidence—scientific, health and economic—argues overwhelmingly for schools to open in the fall. Start with the relative immunity of young children to the disease, which should reassure parents. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 30 children under age 15 have died from Covid-19. In a typical year 190 children die of the flu, 436 from suicide, 625 from homicide, and 4,114 from unintentional deaths such as drowning. Only two children under age 18 have died in Chicago—fewer than were killed in shootings in a recent weekend. In New York City, 0.03% of children under age 18 have been hospitalized for Covid and 7.5 in one million have died. The death rate for those over 75 is more than 2,200-times higher than for those under 18. Children so far have been shielded from the virus compared to working adults. But even pediatric cancer patients at New York’s Memorial Sloan Kettering were about a third less likely to test positive than their adult care-givers, and only one of 20 who tested positive required noncritical hospital care. In Sweden, which kept schools open, only 20 children under age 19—0.6% of confirmed cases—have been admitted to the ICU and only one has died. Parents and teachers understandably worry that children might spread the virus. But a recent retrospective study of schools in Northern France, from February before lockdowns, found that “despite three introductions of the virus into three primary schools, there appears to have been no further transmission of the virus to other pupils or teaching and non-teaching staff of the schools.” Teens appear to be more infectious. Yet schools that have reopened in most countries, including Germany, Singapore, Norway, Denmark and Finland, haven’t experienced outbreaks. Some schools in Israel had outbreaks last month after class sizes were increased, but most infections in both teachers and students were mild. In any case, these risks can be managed as the Trump Administration has suggested in its guidance to schools: Space desks six feet apart, stagger class periods, make kids wear face coverings when possible, keep them in the same cohort, and have them eat, play and learn outdoors as much as possible. Teachers can also wear face shields, and schools can use plastic barriers in higher-grade level classrooms to separate them from kids. Teachers who are older or have underlying health conditions deserve special accommodations. But employers and employees in most industries are making adjustments to manage through the pandemic, and there’s no reason schools and teachers can’t too. States so far have received $150 billion in pandemic relief from Congress, much of which can go to education, and schools have received $13.2 billion on top of that. Unions are demanding more, but Education Secretary Betsy DeVos says schools have used a mere $195 million. Republicans in Congress should condition additional funding in a fifth virus-aid package on schools physically reopening five days a week. If some public schools or districts refuse to reopen, make the money available to charter or private schools that are open. *** Keeping schools closed while awaiting a vaccine isn’t an acceptable alternative. You don’t need a degree in child psychology to know kids have struggled with virtual education. A Reuters analysis last month found that fewer than half of 57 public school districts were taking attendance. About a third weren’t providing required services to special-needs students. Teachers unions have fought to reduce accountability. United Teachers Los Angeles’s pandemic collective-bargaining agreement prohibited schools from requiring face-to-face online instruction such as Zoom or Skype. Teachers also don’t have to work more than four hours per day. Philadelphia Superintendent William Hite warned that kids were falling through the cracks, which could portend an increase in youth delinquency and crime. Research outfit NWEA has projected that “students are likely to return in fall 2020 with approximately 63-68% of the learning gains in reading relative to a typical school year and with 37-50% of the learning gains in math.” Another half-year or year of lost instruction will be impossible to make up. Achievement gaps will surely increase. Affluent families may supplement and monitor their children’s virtual instruction while working from home. But how can a first-grader whose parents don’t have that luxury be expected to learn virtually on his own? “Missing school can have serious consequences for child health and wellbeing, particularly for students with disabilities or with special healthcare needs,” American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) President Sally Goza said recently. Students physically in school, she added, “learn social and emotional skills, get healthy meals and exercise, and mental health support. Schools help identify and address learning deficits, physical abuse, substance use, depression, and suicidal ideation. These are all critical reasons to get children back to school.” The AAP last week endorsed union financial demands on reopening, but the child health point holds. Millions of parents can’t return to work if their children can’t attend school. Opening the schools is essential to the well-being of students, and teachers and administrators have a duty to make it happen. |
Anonymous
| False premise: not being in school in person this fall does not mean you get no education this fall or for the rest of your life. |
Anonymous
People have always been allowed to do that. The Homeschooling forum on DCUM is not new this month. |
Anonymous
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The biggest losers of not opening schools are poor families and poor children.
As a society if we allow families to travel, attend weddings, buy carryouts for dinner, bring the family to Walmart and Cosco then it is ridiculous that children can't be in school if they are out and about. |
Anonymous
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Saving lives > education. Especially since most kids are actually still getting an education. The argument that kids are not learning at home is a myth. |
Anonymous
I don’t think doubling down on our stupidity and really letting the virus get out of control is the answer. We need to get resources to poor families. Internet, books. Perhaps set up places kids can go for distance learning under the supervision of young, low risk aides while those who can stay home do. Killing more poor people is not the answer. |
Anonymous
For me this has become a more important question than even whether schools should open. Let’s say a teacher dies. What about 2? What about a student? What if multiple teachers or students are hospitalized? I don’t even have school aged kids, but I keep thinking that even if schools reopen, how long will they remain open before closing again? Will it even be more than a few weeks? |