Economist- Let them learn- The risks of keeping schools closed far outweigh the benefits

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Anonymous wrote:Uh no. teachers are—to put it simply—scared to die.

There’s a pandemic and if schools hadn’t closed in march, the death toll would have been much higher.

The political part of this is how terribly Trump has handled it for months and months, calling it a hoax, never wearing a mask, pitting states against each other for proper equipment, firing the pandemic team long before this happened, refusing to listen to top health experts.

If teachers had proper PPE and schools could have soap and paper towels, maybe they wouldn’t be so scared, but my kids in McPs —a wealthy county —often don’t even have soap in the bathrooms. How the hell can they keep the virus at bay without the proper equipment?

I’m shocked to hear schools don’t have soap in the bathrooms. That being said I am CERTAIN parents or even strangers would be more than happy to donate to the school if that’s so it takes to reopen. I don’t have kids but I’d gladly restock your school singlehandedly! Sadly I do think there are some teachers who don’t want to reopen at all if they have to take any risk whatsoever and there still getting paid. They should feel more sense of responsibility for the future of our children. Imagine if our healthcare workers refused to help patients until some long list of demands were met. Teachers play just as big a role in the (social, intellectual, emotional) health of our society as healthcare workers do.

Every school year, along with paper and pencils and whatnot on the supply list, parents are asked to send in tissues and purell and Clorox wipes. On a normal year parents provide this type of supply because schools don’t have it. Now when Clorox wipes are nowhere to be found, how WILL the community provide it?

And teachers are not asking for paid leave off—they are trying to work from the safety of their home—online learning is NOT ideal, I have no doubt of that. Teachers were working hard during the spring. Teachers want their students to succeed. They’re doing their best in a crappy time amidst their own anxieties and family struggles.

Please. Teachers were NOT working hard during the spring. Many weren’t working at all.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/07/18/the-risks-of-keeping-schools-closed-far-outweigh-the-benefits?fbclid=IwAR3aWHwHAUu3yCEdbtG0aywVXZNz_v3scNGhdW0i6nEglfeX510KUxQuH4k

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“Education is the surest path out of poverty. Depriving children of it will doom them to poorer, shorter, less fulfilling lives. The World Bank estimates that five months of school closures would cut lifetime earnings for the children who are affected by $10trn in today’s money, equivalent to 7% of current annual GDP.

With such catastrophic potential losses, governments should be working out how to reopen schools as soon as it is safe. This should not be a partisan issue, as it has sadly become in America, where some people assume it is a bad idea simply because President Donald Trump proposes it. In some countries teachers’ unions have been obstructive, partly out of justified concern for public health as cases climb, but also because teachers’ interests are not the same as children’s—especially if they are being paid whether they work or not. The main union in Los Angeles urges that schools remain closed until a long wishlist of demands has been met, including the elusive dream of universal health care in America. Children cannot wait that long.”

The Wall Street Journal recently had an article that said the same thing. They said keeping the high schools closed will create juvenile delinquency in the cities. The poor will be hurt the most.

The dropout rate this year a going to be awful. Juniors and seniors. Heck— I have a senior who wants to get her GED and doesn’t understand why colleges will care that she didn’t sit through the farce of DL. She wants to do something “useful” instead. If UMC college bound kid says that, imagine all the kids whose home lives suck and are stuck doing DL with siblings. Why not drop out, get a GED (or not), get a job and earn money instead of being an unpaid babysitter, have your own kid accidentally (or not), screw your boyfriend and smoke pot all day. Work so you can move out of you crappy home or because a parent lost a job. Everyone is upset about the k-2s. But, there are going o me more permanent, immediate losses among the Hs kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh no. teachers are—to put it simply—scared to die.

There’s a pandemic and if schools hadn’t closed in march, the death toll would have been much higher.

The political part of this is how terribly Trump has handled it for months and months, calling it a hoax, never wearing a mask, pitting states against each other for proper equipment, firing the pandemic team long before this happened, refusing to listen to top health experts.

If teachers had proper PPE and schools could have soap and paper towels, maybe they wouldn’t be so scared, but my kids in McPs —a wealthy county —often don’t even have soap in the bathrooms. How the hell can they keep the virus at bay without the proper equipment?

Fear does not equate to facts. The long term negative impact on children is a fact. Teachers were screaming for shutdowns for the fall before schools were provided the opportunity to demonstrate their plan.

Either step up and do the job or find another profession. (See all other open businesses and their employees.)

OMG GOOD LUCK finding enough good teachers this fall!

Good lu ring a job at your present salary with benefits and a pension in a recession.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:False premise: not being in school in person this fall does not mean you get no education this fall or for the rest of your life.

Tell it to the hi school top outs.

And please, we’ve all seen distance learning. It sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh no. teachers are—to put it simply—scared to die.

There’s a pandemic and if schools hadn’t closed in march, the death toll would have been much higher.

The political part of this is how terribly Trump has handled it for months and months, calling it a hoax, never wearing a mask, pitting states against each other for proper equipment, firing the pandemic team long before this happened, refusing to listen to top health experts.

If teachers had proper PPE and schools could have soap and paper towels, maybe they wouldn’t be so scared, but my kids in McPs —a wealthy county —often don’t even have soap in the bathrooms. How the hell can they keep the virus at bay without the proper equipment?

I’m shocked to hear schools don’t have soap in the bathrooms. That being said I am CERTAIN parents or even strangers would be more than happy to donate to the school if that’s so it takes to reopen. I don’t have kids but I’d gladly restock your school singlehandedly! Sadly I do think there are some teachers who don’t want to reopen at all if they have to take any risk whatsoever and there still getting paid. They should feel more sense of responsibility for the future of our children. Imagine if our healthcare workers refused to help patients until some long list of demands were met. Teachers play just as big a role in the (social, intellectual, emotional) health of our society as healthcare workers do.

It has been disheartening to read how many teachers don't consider themselves essential. They are scared of all the wrong things.

If by essential you meant overqualified babysitters then yeah mate... we aints no essential.

Cheers (I’m on vacay. U?)

The. I should get paid $15/hour like every other babysitter. Try funding your vacay with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All our energies should be on reopening schools. Those who would keep them closed will cause untold harm to these children and their futures.

Agree. And abolish the viral county systems for city or zip code systems. These big union bureaucrats with bloated budgets and admins can’t do anything right - curriculum, esol, G&T, Covid logistics, bussing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Uh no. teachers are—to put it simply—scared to die.

There’s a pandemic and if schools hadn’t closed in march, the death toll would have been much higher.

The political part of this is how terribly Trump has handled it for months and months, calling it a hoax, never wearing a mask, pitting states against each other for proper equipment, firing the pandemic team long before this happened, refusing to listen to top health experts.

If teachers had proper PPE and schools could have soap and paper towels, maybe they wouldn’t be so scared, but my kids in McPs —a wealthy county —often don’t even have soap in the bathrooms. How the hell can they keep the virus at bay without the proper equipment?

I’m shocked to hear schools don’t have soap in the bathrooms. That being said I am CERTAIN parents or even strangers would be more than happy to donate to the school if that’s so it takes to reopen. I don’t have kids but I’d gladly restock your school singlehandedly! Sadly I do think there are some teachers who don’t want to reopen at all if they have to take any risk whatsoever and there still getting paid. They should feel more sense of responsibility for the future of our children. Imagine if our healthcare workers refused to help patients until some long list of demands were met. Teachers play just as big a role in the (social, intellectual, emotional) health of our society as healthcare workers do.

It has been disheartening to read how many teachers don't consider themselves essential. They are scared of all the wrong things.

If by essential you meant overqualified babysitters then yeah mate... we aints no essential.

Cheers (I’m on vacay. U?)

The. I should get paid $15/hour like every other babysitter. Try funding your vacay with that.

It would be $15/hour per child. I would make a ton more money. 15x7=105. 105x20 kids= 2100 per day, or $10,500 per week. Sure! Pay us like babysitters.