Soccer Is BACK!!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


WHICH CLUB?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?


Because of the tremendous economic pressure to reopen the economy and the political pressure from voters who just want to play soccer or gamble or whatever assuming that they will be fine.


I don't think the return to youth sports is due to economic pressure. It's just not that big a part of the economy as a whole.

The fact is the risk to kids - especially otherwise healthy youth athletes - is extremely low. The risk from kids is really the concern. If I had an elderly relative living in my household, I don't think I'd let my kids play. There is still the risk of increased community spread generally, but in context, this is a relatively small group of people (# of youth athletes playing team sports as a percentage of kids overall) who will be in contact with each other in outdoor settings (where the dispersal rate of the virus is exponentially higher, so the viral load exposure is exponentially lower) for relatively brief amounts of time (< 2 hrs a day, max).

I would be much more concerned about a bunch of kids sitting in a classroom for six hours at a time. Even with masks and reduced class sizes, I think the risk of transmission from reopening schools is much higher.

To the extent we are seeing spikes, 2nd wave, prolonged 1st wave, whatever you want to call it, it's going to be from adults going to restaurants. bars, stores, etc, ... not complying with masking and social distancing policies. It's not going to be from youth sports.


There's certainly significant risk to kids in older age groups. If you have a kid in 16-18 age groups, you should not assume that the risk is low. Here's an article explaining how a beach week-end resulted in 150 Loudoun teens infected. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/loudoun-county-myrtle-beach-spike/65-a1f055bf-8035-41a0-8dfa-ca76cf1cf639


Nothing about the infected kids being hospitalized? As long as not part of high-risk family, kids recovering from Covid still good news.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?


Because of the tremendous economic pressure to reopen the economy and the political pressure from voters who just want to play soccer or gamble or whatever assuming that they will be fine.


I don't think the return to youth sports is due to economic pressure. It's just not that big a part of the economy as a whole.

The fact is the risk to kids - especially otherwise healthy youth athletes - is extremely low. The risk from kids is really the concern. If I had an elderly relative living in my household, I don't think I'd let my kids play. There is still the risk of increased community spread generally, but in context, this is a relatively small group of people (# of youth athletes playing team sports as a percentage of kids overall) who will be in contact with each other in outdoor settings (where the dispersal rate of the virus is exponentially higher, so the viral load exposure is exponentially lower) for relatively brief amounts of time (< 2 hrs a day, max).

I would be much more concerned about a bunch of kids sitting in a classroom for six hours at a time. Even with masks and reduced class sizes, I think the risk of transmission from reopening schools is much higher.

To the extent we are seeing spikes, 2nd wave, prolonged 1st wave, whatever you want to call it, it's going to be from adults going to restaurants. bars, stores, etc, ... not complying with masking and social distancing policies. It's not going to be from youth sports.


There's certainly significant risk to kids in older age groups. If you have a kid in 16-18 age groups, you should not assume that the risk is low. Here's an article explaining how a beach week-end resulted in 150 Loudoun teens infected. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/loudoun-county-myrtle-beach-spike/65-a1f055bf-8035-41a0-8dfa-ca76cf1cf639


Nothing about the infected kids being hospitalized? As long as not part of high-risk family, kids recovering from Covid still good news.


Yes, thank goodness all these soccer players live on their own and there is no chance they can spread it to their family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


WHICH CLUB?


NP. Did the Club do the correct thing and NOTIFY all of the families? Or, did you have to hear about it through the grapevine?

That's telling...and now I'm a little worried. My kids have been practicing since late May. The older one at 2 different clubs. They have strict procedures, distancing...but if I heard this I would definitely pull them---contact tracing and all.
Anonymous
We just got guidance from our club regarding phase 3 practices. All practices are optional and there is NO CONTACT allowed. We are long way from playing games.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?


Because of the tremendous economic pressure to reopen the economy and the political pressure from voters who just want to play soccer or gamble or whatever assuming that they will be fine.


I don't think the return to youth sports is due to economic pressure. It's just not that big a part of the economy as a whole.

The fact is the risk to kids - especially otherwise healthy youth athletes - is extremely low. The risk from kids is really the concern. If I had an elderly relative living in my household, I don't think I'd let my kids play. There is still the risk of increased community spread generally, but in context, this is a relatively small group of people (# of youth athletes playing team sports as a percentage of kids overall) who will be in contact with each other in outdoor settings (where the dispersal rate of the virus is exponentially higher, so the viral load exposure is exponentially lower) for relatively brief amounts of time (< 2 hrs a day, max).

I would be much more concerned about a bunch of kids sitting in a classroom for six hours at a time. Even with masks and reduced class sizes, I think the risk of transmission from reopening schools is much higher.

To the extent we are seeing spikes, 2nd wave, prolonged 1st wave, whatever you want to call it, it's going to be from adults going to restaurants. bars, stores, etc, ... not complying with masking and social distancing policies. It's not going to be from youth sports.


There's certainly significant risk to kids in older age groups. If you have a kid in 16-18 age groups, you should not assume that the risk is low. Here's an article explaining how a beach week-end resulted in 150 Loudoun teens infected. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/loudoun-county-myrtle-beach-spike/65-a1f055bf-8035-41a0-8dfa-ca76cf1cf639


Nothing about the infected kids being hospitalized? As long as not part of high-risk family, kids recovering from Covid still good news.


Sorry I can't help but laugh. As long as dont end up in the hospital, anything is fine. What a low bar!
Anonymous
The thing to remember is that covid is easy to spread because it is easy to catch.

The bar near Michigan State Univ provided the most recent proof. 82 known immediate infections from 1 night. Followed by 32 more from a newly infected couple attending a bonfire the next night. How many parents and grandparents will be in the next rung?

Will your kid spread it to another kid who lives with their grandma, who then catches it and dies?
Anonymous
Once again don't play soccer and stay home if you're high-risk or in high risk family.
The "hospitalization bar" may be low, but willing to take that risk of my kid taking precautions, catching and recovering versus being anxiety-ridden and locked up in house for who knows how long, but you do you LOL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


Yikes! We have had social distance practices, but to my knowledge games and tourneys have not been discussed. Even summer mini-camp is not coming up (usually held late July or early August for our club).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would games be allowed if it wasn't safe?


Because of the tremendous economic pressure to reopen the economy and the political pressure from voters who just want to play soccer or gamble or whatever assuming that they will be fine.


I don't think the return to youth sports is due to economic pressure. It's just not that big a part of the economy as a whole.

The fact is the risk to kids - especially otherwise healthy youth athletes - is extremely low. The risk from kids is really the concern. If I had an elderly relative living in my household, I don't think I'd let my kids play. There is still the risk of increased community spread generally, but in context, this is a relatively small group of people (# of youth athletes playing team sports as a percentage of kids overall) who will be in contact with each other in outdoor settings (where the dispersal rate of the virus is exponentially higher, so the viral load exposure is exponentially lower) for relatively brief amounts of time (< 2 hrs a day, max).

I would be much more concerned about a bunch of kids sitting in a classroom for six hours at a time. Even with masks and reduced class sizes, I think the risk of transmission from reopening schools is much higher.

To the extent we are seeing spikes, 2nd wave, prolonged 1st wave, whatever you want to call it, it's going to be from adults going to restaurants. bars, stores, etc, ... not complying with masking and social distancing policies. It's not going to be from youth sports.


There's certainly significant risk to kids in older age groups. If you have a kid in 16-18 age groups, you should not assume that the risk is low. Here's an article explaining how a beach week-end resulted in 150 Loudoun teens infected. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/loudoun-county-myrtle-beach-spike/65-a1f055bf-8035-41a0-8dfa-ca76cf1cf639


Nothing about the infected kids being hospitalized? As long as not part of high-risk family, kids recovering from Covid still good news.


Sorry I can't help but laugh. As long as dont end up in the hospital, anything is fine. What a low bar!


No one has suggested that young people can't catch the virus. What the data shows is that the consequences of catching it - for that age group - are not severe in the overwhelming majority of cases. A few days of low grade fever and a light cough, if they have any symptoms at all. So yes, hospitalization rates do matter - at least when assessing the risk for that age group. Assessing the risk (to the rest of us, and particularly those over 70) from that age group is a different matter.

Additionally, 4-6 hours of soccer per week are not even remotely comparable to the conditions experienced at "beach week". As the article describes:

“When people go to a beach week, they have a lot of people in the house spending the night together, going to parties together, not social distancing, not using hand sanitizer, face coverings,” Dr. Goodfriend said. “The virus is going to spread and it spreads quickly. And, then when people are driving back, even if you didn't pick it up, while you were down there, you can pass it on to other people in the car.”



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The thing to remember is that covid is easy to spread because it is easy to catch.

The bar near Michigan State Univ provided the most recent proof. 82 known immediate infections from 1 night. Followed by 32 more from a newly infected couple attending a bonfire the next night. How many parents and grandparents will be in the next rung?

Will your kid spread it to another kid who lives with their grandma, who then catches it and dies?


The kid who lives with their grandma probably should not be going to soccer practices or in-person school for that matter. I personally will not let my kids be anywhere near any old person right now - related or not - precisely because of that risk.

That's good advice about not letting kids go to bars though.
Anonymous
Anyone attending the Futsal Fridays at the UnitedSportsplex in Manassas now that soccer it back? Curious in general attendance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


WHICH CLUB?


NP. Did the Club do the correct thing and NOTIFY all of the families? Or, did you have to hear about it through the grapevine?

That's telling...and now I'm a little worried. My kids have been practicing since late May. The older one at 2 different clubs. They have strict procedures, distancing...but if I heard this I would definitely pull them---contact tracing and all.


Did the Club tell all of the families???? Or did you have to hear about it through other parents. Have they curtailed practice since--like you would do with contact tracing--anyone that was near this kid or parents??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


WHICH CLUB?


Unless they actually name the club, I call BS on this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cannot wait! Yay!


Yep a friend’s small club started back two weeks ago. Now two kids have tested positive.


WHICH CLUB?


NP. Did the Club do the correct thing and NOTIFY all of the families? Or, did you have to hear about it through the grapevine?

That's telling...and now I'm a little worried. My kids have been practicing since late May. The older one at 2 different clubs. They have strict procedures, distancing...but if I heard this I would definitely pull them---contact tracing and all.



What club has been conducting organized training since late May?
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