TJ PREP OPTIONS !!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing about prep. There are plenty of kids who get into TJ who did it, and there are plenty of kids who didn't.

Of the kids who did it, there are many of them who didn't need to - but their parents decided to do it anyway, believing it to be a fail-safe.

But the kids for whom prepping is the reason they got in - those kids tend to struggle mightily once they arrive. They are frequently overwhelmed by the workload (which frankly, is overrated thanks to the preponderance of these kids), suffer from impostor syndrome (which creates major mental health issues), and end up faring worse in the college admissions process than they would have otherwise had they stayed at their base school.

TJ prep is a bad bet, especially if you're paying thousands of dollars for it. If it's the reason your kid gets in, they're going to be miserable and likely not very successful when they get there - so you basically shelled out several thousand for the brief thrill of being able to brag to your parent group that your kid got into TJ.

And besides, as a previous poster correctly indicated, there is going to be sweeping change to the admissions process in the very near future anyway.

+1

Taking of x number of kids from each middle school didn’t work out and automatically admitting certain number of black kids outside of the typical admission system each year ( I think it was about 50 per year) didn’t work out as well so don’t expect anything to change.

Neither of these things has ever happened. An explicit racial quota would be unconstitutional, but the top X kids from each middle school is a proposal being workshopped among many, many others. Expect things to change - and significantly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing about prep. There are plenty of kids who get into TJ who did it, and there are plenty of kids who didn't.

Of the kids who did it, there are many of them who didn't need to - but their parents decided to do it anyway, believing it to be a fail-safe.

But the kids for whom prepping is the reason they got in - those kids tend to struggle mightily once they arrive. They are frequently overwhelmed by the workload (which frankly, is overrated thanks to the preponderance of these kids), suffer from impostor syndrome (which creates major mental health issues), and end up faring worse in the college admissions process than they would have otherwise had they stayed at their base school.

TJ prep is a bad bet, especially if you're paying thousands of dollars for it. If it's the reason your kid gets in, they're going to be miserable and likely not very successful when they get there - so you basically shelled out several thousand for the brief thrill of being able to brag to your parent group that your kid got into TJ.

And besides, as a previous poster correctly indicated, there is going to be sweeping change to the admissions process in the very near future anyway.

+1

Taking of x number of kids from each middle school didn’t work out and automatically admitting certain number of black kids outside of the typical admission system each year ( I think it was about 50 per year) didn’t work out as well so don’t expect anything to change.

Neither of these things has ever happened. An explicit racial quota would be unconstitutional, but the top X kids from each middle school is a proposal being workshopped among many, many others. Expect things to change - and significantly.

Both measures were implemented by the fcps in the past, legally challenged and withdrawn thereafter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing about prep. There are plenty of kids who get into TJ who did it, and there are plenty of kids who didn't.

Of the kids who did it, there are many of them who didn't need to - but their parents decided to do it anyway, believing it to be a fail-safe.

But the kids for whom prepping is the reason they got in - those kids tend to struggle mightily once they arrive. They are frequently overwhelmed by the workload (which frankly, is overrated thanks to the preponderance of these kids), suffer from impostor syndrome (which creates major mental health issues), and end up faring worse in the college admissions process than they would have otherwise had they stayed at their base school.

TJ prep is a bad bet, especially if you're paying thousands of dollars for it. If it's the reason your kid gets in, they're going to be miserable and likely not very successful when they get there - so you basically shelled out several thousand for the brief thrill of being able to brag to your parent group that your kid got into TJ.

And besides, as a previous poster correctly indicated, there is going to be sweeping change to the admissions process in the very near future anyway.

+1

Taking of x number of kids from each middle school didn’t work out and automatically admitting certain number of black kids outside of the typical admission system each year ( I think it was about 50 per year) didn’t work out as well so don’t expect anything to change.

Neither of these things has ever happened. An explicit racial quota would be unconstitutional, but the top X kids from each middle school is a proposal being workshopped among many, many others. Expect things to change - and significantly.

Both measures were implemented by the fcps in the past, legally challenged and withdrawn thereafter.

When was that? I see there a link to an article?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both my children are TJ Alum. Neither of them did any prep. It’s obvious that there are several students at TJ who just prepped to get in and they get a rude awakening. If your child is smart enough and has true passion, they’ll make it. Else, it’ll be better if they don’t go. Once you go to college, no one cares that you went to TJ

+ 100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both my children are TJ Alum. Neither of them did any prep. It’s obvious that there are several students at TJ who just prepped to get in and they get a rude awakening. If your child is smart enough and has true passion, they’ll make it. Else, it’ll be better if they don’t go. Once you go to college, no one cares that you went to TJ

+ 100

Some people, including some recruiters, are more impressed with TJ than with top 25 colleges outside of Hypsm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing about prep. There are plenty of kids who get into TJ who did it, and there are plenty of kids who didn't.

Of the kids who did it, there are many of them who didn't need to - but their parents decided to do it anyway, believing it to be a fail-safe.

But the kids for whom prepping is the reason they got in - those kids tend to struggle mightily once they arrive. They are frequently overwhelmed by the workload (which frankly, is overrated thanks to the preponderance of these kids), suffer from impostor syndrome (which creates major mental health issues), and end up faring worse in the college admissions process than they would have otherwise had they stayed at their base school.

TJ prep is a bad bet, especially if you're paying thousands of dollars for it. If it's the reason your kid gets in, they're going to be miserable and likely not very successful when they get there - so you basically shelled out several thousand for the brief thrill of being able to brag to your parent group that your kid got into TJ.

And besides, as a previous poster correctly indicated, there is going to be sweeping change to the admissions process in the very near future anyway.

+1

Taking of x number of kids from each middle school didn’t work out and automatically admitting certain number of black kids outside of the typical admission system each year ( I think it was about 50 per year) didn’t work out as well so don’t expect anything to change.

Neither of these things has ever happened. An explicit racial quota would be unconstitutional, but the top X kids from each middle school is a proposal being workshopped among many, many others. Expect things to change - and significantly.

Both measures were implemented by the fcps in the past, legally challenged and withdrawn thereafter.

They were never implemented. They were workshopped and discussed, but no incoming class ever was selected under any such guidelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing about prep. There are plenty of kids who get into TJ who did it, and there are plenty of kids who didn't.

Of the kids who did it, there are many of them who didn't need to - but their parents decided to do it anyway, believing it to be a fail-safe.

But the kids for whom prepping is the reason they got in - those kids tend to struggle mightily once they arrive. They are frequently overwhelmed by the workload (which frankly, is overrated thanks to the preponderance of these kids), suffer from impostor syndrome (which creates major mental health issues), and end up faring worse in the college admissions process than they would have otherwise had they stayed at their base school.

TJ prep is a bad bet, especially if you're paying thousands of dollars for it. If it's the reason your kid gets in, they're going to be miserable and likely not very successful when they get there - so you basically shelled out several thousand for the brief thrill of being able to brag to your parent group that your kid got into TJ.

And besides, as a previous poster correctly indicated, there is going to be sweeping change to the admissions process in the very near future anyway.

+1

Taking of x number of kids from each middle school didn’t work out and automatically admitting certain number of black kids outside of the typical admission system each year ( I think it was about 50 per year) didn’t work out as well so don’t expect anything to change.

Neither of these things has ever happened. An explicit racial quota would be unconstitutional, but the top X kids from each middle school is a proposal being workshopped among many, many others. Expect things to change - and significantly.

Both measures were implemented by the fcps in the past, legally challenged and withdrawn thereafter.

They were never implemented. They were workshopped and discussed, but no incoming class ever was selected under any such guidelines.

They were adopted as policies and implemented but legally challenged and withdrawn before new students were selected under the adopted and implemented policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing about prep. There are plenty of kids who get into TJ who did it, and there are plenty of kids who didn't.

Of the kids who did it, there are many of them who didn't need to - but their parents decided to do it anyway, believing it to be a fail-safe.

But the kids for whom prepping is the reason they got in - those kids tend to struggle mightily once they arrive. They are frequently overwhelmed by the workload (which frankly, is overrated thanks to the preponderance of these kids), suffer from impostor syndrome (which creates major mental health issues), and end up faring worse in the college admissions process than they would have otherwise had they stayed at their base school.

TJ prep is a bad bet, especially if you're paying thousands of dollars for it. If it's the reason your kid gets in, they're going to be miserable and likely not very successful when they get there - so you basically shelled out several thousand for the brief thrill of being able to brag to your parent group that your kid got into TJ.

And besides, as a previous poster correctly indicated, there is going to be sweeping change to the admissions process in the very near future anyway.

+1

Taking of x number of kids from each middle school didn’t work out and automatically admitting certain number of black kids outside of the typical admission system each year ( I think it was about 50 per year) didn’t work out as well so don’t expect anything to change.

Neither of these things has ever happened. An explicit racial quota would be unconstitutional, but the top X kids from each middle school is a proposal being workshopped among many, many others. Expect things to change - and significantly.

Both measures were implemented by the fcps in the past, legally challenged and withdrawn thereafter.

They were never implemented. They were workshopped and discussed, but no incoming class ever was selected under any such guidelines.

They were adopted as policies and implemented but legally challenged and withdrawn before new students were selected under the adopted and implemented policies.

+1000 for semantics. Well played.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing about prep. There are plenty of kids who get into TJ who did it, and there are plenty of kids who didn't.

Of the kids who did it, there are many of them who didn't need to - but their parents decided to do it anyway, believing it to be a fail-safe.

But the kids for whom prepping is the reason they got in - those kids tend to struggle mightily once they arrive. They are frequently overwhelmed by the workload (which frankly, is overrated thanks to the preponderance of these kids), suffer from impostor syndrome (which creates major mental health issues), and end up faring worse in the college admissions process than they would have otherwise had they stayed at their base school.

TJ prep is a bad bet, especially if you're paying thousands of dollars for it. If it's the reason your kid gets in, they're going to be miserable and likely not very successful when they get there - so you basically shelled out several thousand for the brief thrill of being able to brag to your parent group that your kid got into TJ.

And besides, as a previous poster correctly indicated, there is going to be sweeping change to the admissions process in the very near future anyway.

+1

Taking of x number of kids from each middle school didn’t work out and automatically admitting certain number of black kids outside of the typical admission system each year ( I think it was about 50 per year) didn’t work out as well so don’t expect anything to change.

Neither of these things has ever happened. An explicit racial quota would be unconstitutional, but the top X kids from each middle school is a proposal being workshopped among many, many others. Expect things to change - and significantly.

Both measures were implemented by the fcps in the past, legally challenged and withdrawn thereafter.

They were never implemented. They were workshopped and discussed, but no incoming class ever was selected under any such guidelines.

They were adopted as policies and implemented but legally challenged and withdrawn before new students were selected under the adopted and implemented policies.

In addition, generally speaking, a policy that is merely "workshopped" or discussed may not be legally challenged since the plaintiff will be unable to show "standing" unless the said policy is implemented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both my children are TJ Alum. Neither of them did any prep. It’s obvious that there are several students at TJ who just prepped to get in and they get a rude awakening. If your child is smart enough and has true passion, they’ll make it. Else, it’ll be better if they don’t go. Once you go to college, no one cares that you went to TJ

+ 100

Some people, including some recruiters, are more impressed with TJ than with top 25 colleges outside of Hypsm.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Your saying that schools like UC Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon, and Cornell are less prestigious than a HIGH SCHOOL in northern virginia. TJ Alum that go to normal schools are NORMAL PEOPLE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both my children are TJ Alum. Neither of them did any prep. It’s obvious that there are several students at TJ who just prepped to get in and they get a rude awakening. If your child is smart enough and has true passion, they’ll make it. Else, it’ll be better if they don’t go. Once you go to college, no one cares that you went to TJ

+ 100

Some people, including some recruiters, are more impressed with TJ than with top 25 colleges outside of Hypsm.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Your saying that schools like UC Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon, and Cornell are less prestigious than a HIGH SCHOOL in northern virginia. TJ Alum that go to normal schools are NORMAL PEOPLE.

I personally know of recruiters who were more impressed with TJ than Cornell. We are not talking about strictly of "prestige" but people being impressed with graduates of TJ than graduates of colleges such as Cornell, CMU, Michigan etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both my children are TJ Alum. Neither of them did any prep. It’s obvious that there are several students at TJ who just prepped to get in and they get a rude awakening. If your child is smart enough and has true passion, they’ll make it. Else, it’ll be better if they don’t go. Once you go to college, no one cares that you went to TJ

+ 100

Some people, including some recruiters, are more impressed with TJ than with top 25 colleges outside of Hypsm.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Your saying that schools like UC Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon, and Cornell are less prestigious than a HIGH SCHOOL in northern virginia. TJ Alum that go to normal schools are NORMAL PEOPLE.

I personally know of recruiters who were more impressed with TJ than Cornell. We are not talking about strictly of "prestige" but people being impressed with graduates of TJ than graduates of colleges such as Cornell, CMU, Michigan etc.

Average intelligence and average capability of TJ grad is definitely much higher than average intelligence and average capability of Cornell, CMU or Michigan grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is going to be a huge shake-up soon in how TJ admissions are handled. Don't waste your time or money prepping to game the current system.

Disregard this. I have no dog in this fight as I have a rising 5th grader and a k and FOR SURE my rising 5th grader won't be going to TJ (she has an artistic bend). But prepping and improving is always good. I not for TJ, it will serve your child in other ways and aspects of life - maybe even the SATS?


For instance, even though my child has an "artistic bend" as I mentioned, she is still doing AoPS during next year and many other extracurricular activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is going to be a huge shake-up soon in how TJ admissions are handled. Don't waste your time or money prepping to game the current system.

Disregard this. I have no dog in this fight as I have a rising 5th grader and a k and FOR SURE my rising 5th grader won't be going to TJ (she has an artistic bend). But prepping and improving is always good. I not for TJ, it will serve your child in other ways and aspects of life - maybe even the SATS?


For instance, even though my child has an "artistic bend" as I mentioned, she is still doing AoPS during next year and many other extracurricular activities.

SATs are becoming less relevant as well as more and more schools move in a test-optional direction. You'd be better served developing a child who is, you know, interesting and self-motivated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is going to be a huge shake-up soon in how TJ admissions are handled. Don't waste your time or money prepping to game the current system.

Disregard this. I have no dog in this fight as I have a rising 5th grader and a k and FOR SURE my rising 5th grader won't be going to TJ (she has an artistic bend). But prepping and improving is always good. I not for TJ, it will serve your child in other ways and aspects of life - maybe even the SATS?


For instance, even though my child has an "artistic bend" as I mentioned, she is still doing AoPS during next year and many other extracurricular activities.

SATs are becoming less relevant as well as more and more schools move in a test-optional direction. You'd be better served developing a child who is, you know, interesting and self-motivated.

What is an interesting child, and how do you develop one?