Fairfax High School drops Rebel nickname, Mosby Woods name change coming

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mosby was a pretty interesting fellow from a historical standpoint—after the civil war he condemned the confederacy and became a staunch supporter of the US, campaigned for Grant, appointed a diplomat, only to have his house burned down by Confederate arsonists who felt betrayed by his change of heart.

His redemption story is not why the area was named after him. His role in the confederacy with his Rangers is why the neighborhood and school were named after him, as was a whites only academy that existed from 1959-1969 to resist integration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mosby was a pretty interesting fellow from a historical standpoint—after the civil war he condemned the confederacy and became a staunch supporter of the US, campaigned for Grant, appointed a diplomat, only to have his house burned down by Confederate arsonists who felt betrayed by his change of heart.

There you go with your nuance again.
No need to mentioned how Lee's surrender at Appomattox probably saved the country years of guerrilla warfare.

[Anonymous]

Rebel Pride to Lions...still won't win a football game (if there is even such a sport this fall...)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mosby was a pretty interesting fellow from a historical standpoint—after the civil war he condemned the confederacy and became a staunch supporter of the US, campaigned for Grant, appointed a diplomat, only to have his house burned down by Confederate arsonists who felt betrayed by his change of heart.

He was interesting, but not admirable. Before the war, he shot a fellow college student. He opposed secession but then immediately joined the Confederates and really enjoyed raiding. He did not surrender until almost a year after Lee did. And his change to the Republican side was pretty conveniently timed with an amnesty bill for Confederates.

[Anonymous]

The school was named after a neighborhood.

This could be neverendinng.

Sad thing, money could be much better used elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mosby was a pretty interesting fellow from a historical standpoint—after the civil war he condemned the confederacy and became a staunch supporter of the US, campaigned for Grant, appointed a diplomat, only to have his house burned down by Confederate arsonists who felt betrayed by his change of heart.

There you go with your nuance again.
No need to mentioned how Lee's surrender at Appomattox probably saved the country years of guerrilla warfare.

Is this some sort of Confederate fetish?
Lee was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans in defense of the South’s authority to own millions of human beings as property because they are black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mosby was a pretty interesting fellow from a historical standpoint—after the civil war he condemned the confederacy and became a staunch supporter of the US, campaigned for Grant, appointed a diplomat, only to have his house burned down by Confederate arsonists who felt betrayed by his change of heart.

There you go with your nuance again.
No need to mentioned how Lee's surrender at Appomattox probably saved the country years of guerrilla warfare.

Is this some sort of Confederate fetish?
Lee was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans in defense of the South’s authority to own millions of human beings as property because they are black.

See the point I make about nuance? At no time did I defend Lee. I just argued that things should be viewed in historic context. Don't worry. I don't expect anything from the DCUM crowd. Morons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mosby was a pretty interesting fellow from a historical standpoint—after the civil war he condemned the confederacy and became a staunch supporter of the US, campaigned for Grant, appointed a diplomat, only to have his house burned down by Confederate arsonists who felt betrayed by his change of heart.

There you go with your nuance again.
No need to mentioned how Lee's surrender at Appomattox probably saved the country years of guerrilla warfare.

Is this some sort of Confederate fetish?
Lee was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans in defense of the South’s authority to own millions of human beings as property because they are black.

See the point I make about nuance? At no time did I defend Lee. I just argued that things should be viewed in historic context. Don't worry. I don't expect anything from the DCUM crowd. Morons.

And see, at no time did I denounce Lee, just providing you some historical context.

Viewing things in historical context means actually acknowledging history. The whole slavery thing and taking arms against his own country and being responsible for the deaths of U.S. soldiers doesn't go away because you think he surrendered with some class (barf).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mosby was a pretty interesting fellow from a historical standpoint—after the civil war he condemned the confederacy and became a staunch supporter of the US, campaigned for Grant, appointed a diplomat, only to have his house burned down by Confederate arsonists who felt betrayed by his change of heart.

There you go with your nuance again.
No need to mentioned how Lee's surrender at Appomattox probably saved the country years of guerrilla warfare.

Is this some sort of Confederate fetish?
Lee was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans in defense of the South’s authority to own millions of human beings as property because they are black.

See the point I make about nuance? At no time did I defend Lee. I just argued that things should be viewed in historic context. Don't worry. I don't expect anything from the DCUM crowd. Morons.

And see, at no time did I denounce Lee, just providing you some historical context.

Viewing things in historical context means actually acknowledging history. The whole slavery thing and taking arms against his own country and being responsible for the deaths of U.S. soldiers doesn't go away because you think he surrendered with some class (barf).

I didn't say he surrendered with class. I said he surrendered in a way that would not lead to years of bloodshed from guerrilla warfare. This required the appropriate nuance from Lincoln and Grant. That you don't understand this is indicative of your side's desire to have total and complete victory and your inability to understand the potential bad consequences that might arise from this. Sow and you will reap the appropriate whirlwind. Your attitude demonstrates a sufficient childishness that may lead to a disaster, a consequence exactly the opposite of that which you claim to desire. This is exactly what you claim was the problem with Bush in the Iraq war.

[Anonymous]

PS1, PS2, PS3, and so on. And no names to go with the numbers. Just number them. People on all sides will hate it, but nothing to really object to. And then change the name of the county, because Lord Thomas Fairfax was no Saint. County 1, County 2, and so on and so forth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PS1, PS2, PS3, and so on. And no names to go with the numbers. Just number them. People on all sides will hate it, but nothing to really object to. And then change the name of the county, because Lord Thomas Fairfax was no Saint. County 1, County 2, and so on and so forth.

No. This notion that we either have white people or numbers is ridiculous. There are plenty of amazing, deserving heroes of color who can inspire young people. They should be recognized now to make up for the lack of memorials representative of the diversity and history of our country. But even more than statues, please fix the damn useless history textbooks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PS1, PS2, PS3, and so on. And no names to go with the numbers. Just number them. People on all sides will hate it, but nothing to really object to. And then change the name of the county, because Lord Thomas Fairfax was no Saint. County 1, County 2, and so on and so forth.

No. This notion that we either have white people or numbers is ridiculous. There are plenty of amazing, deserving heroes of color who can inspire young people. They should be recognized now to make up for the lack of memorials representative of the diversity and history of our country. But even more than statues, please fix the damn useless history textbooks.

This isn't about naming schools. It is about renaming schools. Fairfax County does currently name schools after people of color, but I think it best that, in the future, we leave naming schools after people out of the possibilities. That's why I think it stupid to rename Mosby Woods, and, I suspect, this is just a wish from the SB member who represents it. I doubt anyone really cared.

There are plenty of schools in Fairfax named after plantations, etc. Even "Fairfax" has connections to slave owners.

I don't like spending the money to rename Lee High School, but I understand it. Mosby Woods is just silly.

And, now,there is a big discussion on the internet about renaming Yale. What's next?

I went to a high school named after a former school superintendent. No one knew anything about him or cared. Most of us didn't even know who the school was named after.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sidney Lanier, from Wikipedia: The United Daughters of the Confederacy worked successfully to enhance Lanier's legacy

Amazing how ingrained these symbols of white supremacy are in our communities. I had no idea.

Yeah, it’s hard to tell in nova when driving on Lee Hghway or Lee Jackson Memorial Highway

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PS1, PS2, PS3, and so on. And no names to go with the numbers. Just number them. People on all sides will hate it, but nothing to really object to. And then change the name of the county, because Lord Thomas Fairfax was no Saint. County 1, County 2, and so on and so forth.

No. This notion that we either have white people or numbers is ridiculous. There are plenty of amazing, deserving heroes of color who can inspire young people. They should be recognized now to make up for the lack of memorials representative of the diversity and history of our country. But even more than statues, please fix the damn useless history textbooks.

This isn't about naming schools. It is about renaming schools. Fairfax County does currently name schools after people of color, but I think it best that, in the future, we leave naming schools after people out of the possibilities. That's why I think it stupid to rename Mosby Woods, and, I suspect, this is just a wish from the SB member who represents it. I doubt anyone really cared.

There are plenty of schools in Fairfax named after plantations, etc. Even "Fairfax" has connections to slave owners.

I don't like spending the money to rename Lee High School, but I understand it. Mosby Woods is just silly.

And, now,there is a big discussion on the internet about renaming Yale. What's next?

I went to a high school named after a former school superintendent. No one knew anything about him or cared. Most of us didn't even know who the school was named after.

What’s next? On the college level, at least, how could Washington & Lee keep that name?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I might be willing to live near Faifax High school now

Hard pass.