Has anyone received a rejection letter from a club yet?

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So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

Look at Arlington at the u littles. They have one coach for 2 teams and they practice together. The second team is lucky if the coach talks to them once every month. Truth be total the coach only works with top 4 players at practice. The rest of the first team and the second team are just paying for the privilege to be ignored.

This happens in other clubs as well. The mediocre coaching mentality that forgets that soccer is a “team” sport. They also forget what coaching means.

AND THAT THE YOUNGER YEARS ARE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.

Coaches really should watch documentaries on great players My sons and I have been watching many during the outbreak. The over-riding theme is kids rejected and it also being painful for the parent to see them rejected for YEARS. It's the ones that ignored it, searched long and hard and never gave up--that end up making it in the long term. And, yes, even in Europe it was usually do to the player being less physically evolved/late developer at the time.

US coaches don't have time for this. Most US players end their careers after Senior year of High School---so why commit to developing players when how they attract $$ is by winning games and tournaments in the younger years. There is much more incentive to RECRUIT, cut and get new talent than invest any time in players they have.

It's a fact. Once you understand that, you will do better. For us, it meant really searching the area and moving our kids to get the type of coaching they needed to develop while waiting for their late growth (family trait).

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And please with putting down kids in the white team. If any of you are talking about boys below the age if 15, you are f@cking idiots and understand zero about the development and evolution of a soccer player.

And don’t get me started on the parents whine that unworthy kids are being moved into Leo & Mia’s teams. What a bunch of @ssholes.

It’s fear. Plain and simple. That’s what makes parents behave like @ssholes to other children.

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Anonymous wrote:We got deleted from TeamSnap without any forewarning by the coach. He has been really unprofessional throughout the season, so we're glad to be done with him. Onward and upward.

That is terrible. I would love to know what club did that. So unprofessional.

Arlington

Didn't Arlington makes offers to all of its travel players?

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So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs


That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.



There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.


Hey, if they can get very top level players from elsewhere to commit and give them money at this point, more power to them. We're on the second to top of five teams, so if they can choose to be that picky, that's fine. But I suspect at the end of the day they can't.


Our club told us there will be no moves up or down until fall when they plan on having the age group practice together. Given my child is in a middle school age group, this makes sense to me, as some kids will have changed a lot from March when they last played to late summer when play picks up. Typically two to four players move up per team

Maybe that will happen for us to. I hope it is the top 4. My kid is in that group but not the top 2.

[Anonymous]

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So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs


That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.



There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.


Hey, if they can get very top level players from elsewhere to commit and give them money at this point, more power to them. We're on the second to top of five teams, so if they can choose to be that picky, that's fine. But I suspect at the end of the day they can't.









Our club told us there will be no moves up or down until fall when they plan on having the age group practice together. Given my child is in a middle school age group, this makes sense to me, as some kids will have changed a lot from March when they last played to late summer when play picks up. Typically two to four players move up per team

Maybe that will happen for us to. I hope it is the top 4. My kid is in that group but not the top 2.

Usually they only move up those kids when the players on field grow from 7-9 or 9-11. and only if they can't recruit 1st level team players from outside the club

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

Look at Arlington at the u littles. They have one coach for 2 teams and they practice together. The second team is lucky if the coach talks to them once every month. Truth be total the coach only works with top 4 players at practice. The rest of the first team and the second team are just paying for the privilege to be ignored.

Does not reflect well on that coach when the Arlington White team develops better than their Red team. Less can be more if the coaches are weak.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got deleted from TeamSnap without any forewarning by the coach. He has been really unprofessional throughout the season, so we're glad to be done with him. Onward and upward.

That is terrible. I would love to know what club did that. So unprofessional.

Arlington

Didn't Arlington makes offers to all of its travel players?

This was my understanding too. Maybe pp didn’t respond to the offer in time, or her kid was switched to a different team. Seems pretty unlikely the kid was just dropped by Arlington entirely without a word from the club.

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So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs


That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.



There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.


Hey, if they can get very top level players from elsewhere to commit and give them money at this point, more power to them. We're on the second to top of five teams, so if they can choose to be that picky, that's fine. But I suspect at the end of the day they can't.









Our club told us there will be no moves up or down until fall when they plan on having the age group practice together. Given my child is in a middle school age group, this makes sense to me, as some kids will have changed a lot from March when they last played to late summer when play picks up. Typically two to four players move up per team


Maybe that will happen for us to. I hope it is the top 4. My kid is in that group but not the top 2.


Usually they only move up those kids when the players on field grow from 7-9 or 9-11. and only if they can't recruit 1st level team players from outside the club

Understood. I was hoping that they couldn't, but I am not sure why we really care. Soccer is mostly for fun for my child. It would just be a recognition of my child's hard work, but we are already aware of that. So I guess it shouldn't matter to us. I'm going to let the issue go.

[Anonymous]

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So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs


That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.



There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.


Hey, if they can get very top level players from elsewhere to commit and give them money at this point, more power to them. We're on the second to top of five teams, so if they can choose to be that picky, that's fine. But I suspect at the end of the day they can't.











Our club told us there will be no moves up or down until fall when they plan on having the age group practice together. Given my child is in a middle school age group, this makes sense to me, as some kids will have changed a lot from March when they last played to late summer when play picks up. Typically two to four players move up per team


Maybe that will happen for us to. I hope it is the top 4. My kid is in that group but not the top 2.


Usually they only move up those kids when the players on field grow from 7-9 or 9-11. and only if they can't recruit 1st level team players from outside the club

Understood. I was hoping that they couldn't, but I am not sure why we really care. Soccer is mostly for fun for my child. It would just be a recognition of my child's hard work, but we are already aware of that. So I guess it shouldn't matter to us. I'm going to let the issue go.

Not attacking your child at all but thought of promotion based off of hard work and not actual being talented enough to make the team better sends the wrong message. Yes acknowledge the hard work. Promotion should be results based not reward sympathy based.

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Understood. I was hoping that they couldn't, but I am not sure why we really care. Soccer is mostly for fun for my child. It would just be a recognition of my child's hard work, but we are already aware of that. So I guess it shouldn't matter to us. I'm going to let the issue go.



Not attacking your child at all but thought of promotion based off of hard work and not actual being talented enough to make the team better sends the wrong message. Yes acknowledge the hard work. Promotion should be results based not reward sympathy based.

Thanks for your view. My child has improved a lot as the result of hard work. Was not suggesting that anyone should be given an offer based on sympathy. Sorry you took it that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

Look at Arlington at the u littles. They have one coach for 2 teams and they practice together. The second team is lucky if the coach talks to them once every month. Truth be total the coach only works with top 4 players at practice. The rest of the first team and the second team are just paying for the privilege to be ignored.

Does not reflect well on that coach when the Arlington White team develops better than their Red team. Less can be more if the coaches are weak.

I've seen that at Arlington too. The Red team often has better athletic kids (not talking size), but many refuse to pass and think they can out dribble everyone on the opposing team. It is very frustrating to watch. The White team has great players as well, but are much more willing to play as a team since they are not so individualistic.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

Look at Arlington at the u littles. They have one coach for 2 teams and they practice together. The second team is lucky if the coach talks to them once every month. Truth be total the coach only works with top 4 players at practice. The rest of the first team and the second team are just paying for the privilege to be ignored.

Does not reflect well on that coach when the Arlington White team develops better than their Red team. Less can be more if the coaches are weak.

I've seen that at Arlington too. The Red team often has better athletic kids (not talking size), but many refuse to pass and think they can out dribble everyone on the opposing team. It is very frustrating to watch. The White team has great players as well, but are much more willing to play as a team since they are not so individualistic.

+1 great statement and I believe this happens because the coach(s) allows it happens. I wonder how coaches are evaluated by club directives. For instance among other factors would a coach be evaluated also on how many DC stay with the team for next season, what’d happen when a coach is not able to retain a pool of players due these kind of frustrations?.