Has anyone received a rejection letter from a club yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so let me get this straight
What you are saying is that the 2nd team coach that has that team is either not a serious coach or doesnt take player development seriously or ???

To say clubs dont take their second team development seriously is quite a statement. The fact remains is they are second team for a reason. Many of the players are either not as serious, determined or flat out not as skilled. It doesnt mean the club or coach doesnt try to develop them.

Yes its a full squad that makes money for the club but to state what you did is simply flawed in so many ways whether you coached or not

Agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

[Anonymous]

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs


That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.



There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Hey, if they can get very top level players from elsewhere to commit and give them money at this point, more power to them. We're on the second to top of five teams, so if they can choose to be that picky, that's fine. But I suspect at the end of the day they can't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

Depends, some clubs are losing MUCH more than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs


That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.



There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Hey, if they can get very top level players from elsewhere to commit and give them money at this point, more power to them. We're on the second to top of five teams, so if they can choose to be that picky, that's fine. But I suspect at the end of the day they can't.

I agree with this except being on the top team and seeing more than 1 lower team child being promoted up makes you think the team is weakening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs


That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.



There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Hey, if they can get very top level players from elsewhere to commit and give them money at this point, more power to them. We're on the second to top of five teams, so if they can choose to be that picky, that's fine. But I suspect at the end of the day they can't.

I agree with this except being on the top team and seeing more than 1 lower team child being promoted up makes you think the team is weakening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We got deleted from TeamSnap without any forewarning by the coach. He has been really unprofessional throughout the season, so we're glad to be done with him. Onward and upward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

You must have coached at some very small clubs, like barely able to fill out a first team type of clubs.

Sounds like FCV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

To hear? It becomes blatantly obvious within one season, unless you have your head in the sand as a parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs


That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.



There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Hey, if they can get very top level players from elsewhere to commit and give them money at this point, more power to them. We're on the second to top of five teams, so if they can choose to be that picky, that's fine. But I suspect at the end of the day they can't.

Our club told us there will be no moves up or down until fall when they plan on having the age group practice together. Given my child is in a middle school age group, this makes sense to me, as some kids will have changed a lot from March when they last played to late summer when play picks up. Typically two to four players move up per team.

[Anonymous]

^ please know they already have the teams selected

“Tryouts” are always just a formality. They get you to pay by believing there will be merit based decisions down the road. Ha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

Look at Arlington at the u littles. They have one coach for 2 teams and they practice together. The second team is lucky if the coach talks to them once every month. Truth be total the coach only works with top 4 players at practice. The rest of the first team and the second team are just paying for the privilege to be ignored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

Look at Arlington at the u littles. They have one coach for 2 teams and they practice together. The second team is lucky if the coach talks to them once every month. Truth be total the coach only works with top 4 players at practice. The rest of the first team and the second team are just paying for the privilege to be ignored.

This happens in other clubs as well. The mediocre coaching mentality that forgets that soccer is a “team” sport. They also forget what coaching means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So what I have heard most of the clubs are looking at a 20- 30% decrease in returning players. Reach out to the clubs

That's what I heard too, yet not one kid on my son's team got an offer to move up to the next level team. I guess maybe they plan to fill from the outside, and then reach out to current players to move up if that doesn't work.

There is usually a reason why they are on the 2nd team. Its not because of numbers its more because of talent. I coached at 2 different clubs for over 13 years. The truth is that the 2nd team is a money maker and not looked at too serious for development.

Yikes. Well, this explains why several area clubs get a bad rap for focusing solely on the top team. The top team coach simply doesn’t care about the other teams in the age group as the are just revenue makers/money grabs. This candor is hard for 2nd, 3rd, 4th team parents to hear.

Look at Arlington at the u littles. They have one coach for 2 teams and they practice together. The second team is lucky if the coach talks to them once every month. Truth be total the coach only works with top 4 players at practice. The rest of the first team and the second team are just paying for the privilege to be ignored.

This happens in other clubs as well. The mediocre coaching mentality that forgets that soccer is a “team” sport. They also forget what coaching means.

AND THAT THE YOUNGER YEARS ARE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.

Coaches really should watch documentaries on great players My sons and I have been watching many during the outbreak. The over-riding theme is kids rejected and it also being painful for the parent to see them rejected for YEARS. It's the ones that ignored it, searched long and hard and never gave up--that end up making it in the long term. And, yes, even in Europe it was usually do to the player being less physically evolved/late developer at the time.

US coaches don't have time for this. Most US players end their careers after Senior year of High School---so why commit to developing players when how they attract $$ is by winning games and tournaments in the younger years. There is much more incentive to RECRUIT, cut and get new talent than invest any time in players they have.

It's a fact. Once you understand that, you will do better. For us, it meant really searching the area and moving our kids to get the type of coaching they needed to develop while waiting for their late growth (family trait).

[Anonymous]

Travel soccer is so watered down. Does anyone ever get cut? Maybe moved down a tier but not cut. The club cares about that almighty dollar too much.