Brown University drastically reduces number of varsity sports

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lol equestrian at Brown is just another sleazy backdoor for really rich girls to get in.

Nope. They did not have a problem with that.
Did you want to go there 30 years ago and still feel better that they didn't want you?

Ummm yes all these fancy sports do. To be good at sports like squash and crew, most students attend expensive prep schools and then do camps they are also extremely expensive. If you aren’t UMC you aren’t getting groomed for these sports.

I think you're actually the cliche. Someone who read "The Preppy Handbook" in 1983 and nothing since.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol equestrian at Brown is just another sleazy backdoor for really rich girls to get in.

Nope. They did not have a problem with that.
Did you want to go there 30 years ago and still feel better that they didn't want you?

Ummm yes all these fancy sports do. To be good at sports like squash and crew, most students attend expensive prep schools and then do camps they are also extremely expensive. If you aren’t UMC you aren’t getting groomed for these sports.

I think you're actually the cliche. Someone who read "The Preppy Handbook" in 1983 and nothing since.

Look at their high schools. It’s 100 percent prep schools or rich public schools like shaker heights high, mainline philly, wellesley mass etc.
Squash:
https://brownbears.com/sports/womens-squash/roster
https://brownbears.com/sports/mens-squash/roster

Fencing:
https://brownbears.com/sports/fencing/roster

Crew

https://brownbears.com/sports/mens-crew/roster
https://brownbears.com/sports/womens-crew/roster

Equestrian:
https://brownbears.com/sports/equestrian/roster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol equestrian at Brown is just another sleazy backdoor for really rich girls to get in.

Nope. They did not have a problem with that.
Did you want to go there 30 years ago and still feel better that they didn't want you?

Ummm yes all these fancy sports do. To be good at sports like squash and crew, most students attend expensive prep schools and then do camps they are also extremely expensive. If you aren’t UMC you aren’t getting groomed for these sports.

I can't speak to squash, but at least in Baltimore, there's Baltimore Community Rowing (https://www.baltimorerowing.org/) which specifically does outreach to under privileged kids, as well as regular old kids, to get them into crew. It's a tremendous program. It wouldn't surprise me if other areas had similar programs; rowers tend to be really passionate about their sport and want to convert everyone.

[Anonymous]

"It’s astonishing that Brown would eliminate track & field/XC......so much history in the ivies."

No matter how serious they are about it, it hasn't completely happened yet.

They may just be trolling for an alum to foot the bill while the virus is adding costs everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol equestrian at Brown is just another sleazy backdoor for really rich girls to get in.

Nope. They did not have a problem with that.
Did you want to go there 30 years ago and still feel better that they didn't want you?

Ummm yes all these fancy sports do. To be good at sports like squash and crew, most students attend expensive prep schools and then do camps they are also extremely expensive. If you aren’t UMC you aren’t getting groomed for these sports.

I think you're actually the cliche. Someone who read "The Preppy Handbook" in 1983 and nothing since.

Look at their high schools. It’s 100 percent prep schools or rich public schools like shaker heights high, mainline philly, wellesley mass etc.
Squash:
https://brownbears.com/sports/womens-squash/roster
https://brownbears.com/sports/mens-squash/roster

Fencing:
https://brownbears.com/sports/fencing/roster

Crew

https://brownbears.com/sports/mens-crew/roster
https://brownbears.com/sports/womens-crew/roster

Equestrian:
https://brownbears.com/sports/equestrian/roster

This. These are not mainstream sports.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Brown has been the doormat in the Ivy League when it came to athletics over the last decade. Only Columbia has a worse overall record, but Columbia has done OK in recent years.

https://ivyleague.com/sports/2018/7/16/HISTORY_0716182714.aspx

Perhaps Brown should just narrow it down to sailing and Ultimate Frisbee.

And academics, of course.

They lag the other Ivies in that category, too.

Nahh you’re wrong about that. Appplied math they are #1. Very high med school acceptance rates and their PLME program is one of the most desirable. Extremely strong in the arts as well, particularly through partnerships with RISD. Their computer science department is legendary with a faculty of 30 for about 40 lucky undergrads. Economics, hard sciences (they have Nobel winner J. Michael Kosterlitz on the faculty), very strong. And while their engineering program isn’t as rigorous as Cornell or Fu, it’s probably stronger than the other ivies.

If they had accepted you, you would know this. Sorry about that.

You are triggered in the way unique to those from lower Ivies.

Anyway, not surprised they are citing back, given their poor track record and lower endowment. They can’t keep up with the others.

“Lower Ivies”. Is there a more infamous phrase? This has been said here hundreds of times: Anyone that uses that phrase is an idiot.

There you go - proving the point over and over again.

It’s another self-inflicted wound by Brown to underscore it’s not top-tier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown has been the doormat in the Ivy League when it came to athletics over the last decade. Only Columbia has a worse overall record, but Columbia has done OK in recent years.

https://ivyleague.com/sports/2018/7/16/HISTORY_0716182714.aspx

Perhaps Brown should just narrow it down to sailing and Ultimate Frisbee.

And academics, of course.

They lag the other Ivies in that category, too.

Nahh you’re wrong about that. Appplied math they are #1. Very high med school acceptance rates and their PLME program is one of the most desirable. Extremely strong in the arts as well, particularly through partnerships with RISD. Their computer science department is legendary with a faculty of 30 for about 40 lucky undergrads. Economics, hard sciences (they have Nobel winner J. Michael Kosterlitz on the faculty), very strong. And while their engineering program isn’t as rigorous as Cornell or Fu, it’s probably stronger than the other ivies.

If they had accepted you, you would know this. Sorry about that.

You are triggered in the way unique to those from lower Ivies.

Anyway, not surprised they are citing back, given their poor track record and lower endowment. They can’t keep up with the others.

“Lower Ivies”. Is there a more infamous phrase? This has been said here hundreds of times: Anyone that uses that phrase is an idiot.

+1. Agreed, profoundly stupid or insanely insecure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol equestrian at Brown is just another sleazy backdoor for really rich girls to get in.

Nope. They did not have a problem with that.
Did you want to go there 30 years ago and still feel better that they didn't want you?

Nah, I went to Harvard.

[Anonymous]

These sports are small teams that don't draw any spectators (golf, equestrian and ski are not even held on campus) or do anything for school spirit (especially when your team is bad) or visibility. So they're just a money drain with no benefits, financial or otherwise, for the university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol equestrian at Brown is just another sleazy backdoor for really rich girls to get in.

Nope. They did not have a problem with that.
Did you want to go there 30 years ago and still feel better that they didn't want you?

Ummm yes all these fancy sports do. To be good at sports like squash and crew, most students attend expensive prep schools and then do camps they are also extremely expensive. If you aren’t UMC you aren’t getting groomed for these sports.

I think you're actually the cliche. Someone who read "The Preppy Handbook" in 1983 and nothing since.

Look at their high schools. It’s 100 percent prep schools or rich public schools like shaker heights high, mainline philly, wellesley mass etc.
Squash:
https://brownbears.com/sports/womens-squash/roster
https://brownbears.com/sports/mens-squash/roster

Fencing:
https://brownbears.com/sports/fencing/roster

Crew

https://brownbears.com/sports/mens-crew/roster
https://brownbears.com/sports/womens-crew/roster

Equestrian:
https://brownbears.com/sports/equestrian/roster

Um... comparing Shaker to rich private schools that groom kids for equestrian competition is not quite right. Shaker Heights is an inner ring Cleveland suburb, and Cleveland's inner ring suburbs have some of the lowest per capita usage of public schools of anywhere in the country. There are a ton of UMC and some rich people there, but they don't use the public schools. Shaker is about like Wilson HS in DC, except that the percentage of low income students is slightly higher at Shaker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The decision to cut men's track is the head-scratcher. It's not expensive - especially when you're keeping women's track and so have to maintain all the facilities - and the team's members come from a diverse range of backgrounds.

They did have too many varsity teams though - like 4th most of any college in the country. The Athletics Department has been an afterthought for years, and it shows in their teams' dismal winning percentages (and attendance)

It might be to keep their numbers Title IX compliant.

This

[Anonymous]

Poor Brown. It never really could keep up, could it? Its endowment is far below the other Ivies and about 10% of Yale’s.

[Anonymous]

If you can’t support fencing, squash and men’s track teams, you simply don’t belong in the Ivy League. Period.

Equestrian and skiing teams always should have been club sports, but they were one way Brown got in over its head by trying to signal it was a school for extremely rich kids from around the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lol equestrian at Brown is just another sleazy backdoor for really rich girls to get in.

Nope. They did not have a problem with that.
Did you want to go there 30 years ago and still feel better that they didn't want you?

Nah, I went to Harvard.

Ha ha ha! We had a saying in my working-class neighborhood: “Your ass is on fire!”

Another well a established fact learned in this forum: Harvard people don’t need to brag about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you can’t support fencing, squash and men’s track teams, you simply don’t belong in the Ivy League. Period.

Equestrian and skiing teams always should have been club sports, but they were one way Brown got in over its head by trying to signal it was a school for extremely rich kids from around the world.

Isn't equestrian a club sport at both Harvard and Yale? There was NO reason for Brown to make it an official team.