If schools have to continue online, shouldn’t teachers worry about their jobs?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm not worried about losing my job. However, I am worried that the economy is going to totally crash and be even worse than the great depression. During the GD, many teachers went with only partial paychecks, if they were paid at all. They kept working though. I won't be working if I don't get paid.

No, just as I’m sure other professionals wouldn’t either. If they reduced my pay I would also reduce the amount of time and effort I put in to my job. I’m not a martyr, this is my job.
Anonymous
Anybody who thinks it's acceptable to even consider not opening schools this fall is seriously out of touch. By September, they will have been out of school for 6 months! One more day will be unacceptable. The risk to not educating our children far outweighs the risk the virus poses.
Anonymous
All government employees should be worried about their jobs, there are absolutely going to be cuts at every level, just as in the private sector.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anybody who thinks it's acceptable to even consider not opening schools this fall is seriously out of touch. By September, they will have been out of school for 6 months! One more day will be unacceptable. The risk to not educating our children far outweighs the risk the virus poses.

Sure, if you pretend all of the time spent participating in distance learning is nonexistent. To whom is this risk greater? I think the people on ventilators would beg to differ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I see sooo many teachers commenting in various places that they’re worried about getting the virus so don’t think schools should resume in person.

Ok fine. If that happens? How many math teachers does a school really need? One per grade to put together the content. The online programs like Khan Academy do everything else including teaching and grading. This goes for the programs that my kids’ science and Spanish teachers are using as well.

If school continues online for the next however many years, won’t there be a massive lay off of teachers? Why are they not more worried about their jobs?


There is no way that will happen. Countries that were hit before us are already starting to go back. At the rate things are going, I do t even think we will be online in the fall.
Anonymous
No. Teachers should not be worried. There was a teacher shortage before this began and so many parents in this area are willing to pay $100/hr or more for one on one tutoring. If cuts happen these teachers will probably be hired by the same parents complaining about distance learning and will make more money than they did with their salary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see sooo many teachers commenting in various places that they’re worried about getting the virus so don’t think schools should resume in person.

Ok fine. If that happens? How many math teachers does a school really need? One per grade to put together the content. The online programs like Khan Academy do everything else including teaching and grading. This goes for the programs that my kids’ science and Spanish teachers are using as well.

If school continues online for the next however many years, won’t there be a massive lay off of teachers? Why are they not more worried about their jobs?


There is no way that will happen. Countries that were hit before us are already starting to go back. At the rate things are going, I do t even think we will be online in the fall.


Yes, going back...but school looks very different. To give just one example: my cousins are all in Belgium and they go back the week of May 18th. On week one, only 12th graders and 6th graders go back, 2 days/wk w no more than 10 per class. If that goes alright hey will add grades. Some grades only one day/wk.

I know we want to believe we’ll be back to FT school as it was before...okay. But I sure hope school and business leaders are planning for the possibility of a very different landscape.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are you worried about your job? I’m pretty sure everyone is worried about their job no matter what field they are in. Whether they lose it or their job is totally reimagined into something they no longer enjoy, changes are here.

It’s bizarre that parents are so angry at teachers right now. I’m sorry that you have to watch your own kids all day but I never planned on teaching from home. This was totally unexpected and now we have to totally reimagine everything. I hope you can continue providing for your family. I’m not sure why parents are chomping at the bit for teaches to get fired. I don’t think we’re sitting around hoping all of you lose your livelihoods.

m
Are you kidding?! Because you’re not teaching! You out assignments up with no teaching videos or Zoom instruction and just expect parents to teach everything.

I taught my 2nd trader how to make a bar graph, line plot, and an outline today.

Teacher could have demonstrated this over zoom or made teaching videos. Did neither.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No. Teachers should not be worried. There was a teacher shortage before this began and so many parents in this area are willing to pay $100/hr or more for one on one tutoring. If cuts happen these teachers will probably be hired by the same parents complaining about distance learning and will make more money than they did with their salary.


That was when there was generally a tight labor market. Are you familiar with the unemployment rate?
Anonymous
Teachers are lazyAF.

They just want to sit at home on their couches and still get paid what they normally would. Totally taking advantage of the situation.
Anonymous
I’m not worried about losing my job. It’s so hard to find teachers for my subject and with my content expertise. I’d probably be worried if I taught something like PE. If anything, I think we just won’t have any salary increases for a long time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Teachers are lazyAF.

They just want to sit at home on their couches and still get paid what they normally would. Totally taking advantage of the situation.


HAHAHAHA. You are so out of touch with what’s actually happening. Does it make you feel better to insult people you don’t even know?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you worried about your job? I’m pretty sure everyone is worried about their job no matter what field they are in. Whether they lose it or their job is totally reimagined into something they no longer enjoy, changes are here.

It’s bizarre that parents are so angry at teachers right now. I’m sorry that you have to watch your own kids all day but I never planned on teaching from home. This was totally unexpected and now we have to totally reimagine everything. I hope you can continue providing for your family. I’m not sure why parents are chomping at the bit for teaches to get fired. I don’t think we’re sitting around hoping all of you lose your livelihoods.

m
Are you kidding?! Because you’re not teaching! You out assignments up with no teaching videos or Zoom instruction and just expect parents to teach everything.

I taught my 2nd trader how to make a bar graph, line plot, and an outline today.

Teacher could have demonstrated this over zoom or made teaching videos. Did neither.


+1

Exactly, this is the problem OP outlines. Teachers are doing NO teaching.

Putting up assignments through an online program or app like Khan Academy or even a scan of a worksheet is NOT teaching.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Teachers are lazyAF.

They just want to sit at home on their couches and still get paid what they normally would. Totally taking advantage of the situation.


HAHAHAHA. You are so out of touch with what’s actually happening. Does it make you feel better to insult people you don’t even know?


So address the fact that many are doing no actual teaching. No teaching videos, no live zoom instruction. Just put up assignments, that’s it.

If kids don’t automatically know what to do (and how would they if it’s new content?) parents have to take time out of their work day to show them.
Anonymous
Live Zoom INSTRUCTION can only take place if a district is 1:1 with devices. Otherwise, students who have to share a computer with multiple siblings etc. might not be able to participate in the instruction and it creates educational inequity. In districts that are not 1:1, learning must be asynchronous, and Zoom sessions are more for optional enrichment. I have been doing a lot of pre-recorded videos.
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