I never understood the ban on the word hate. What’s so bad about it? I hate mangos. I hate Big Bang theory. I hate people who are cruel. |
It's a very strong word that shouldn't be used lightly. I'm sure you don't hate mangos the way you hate cruelty. I teach my kids to say that they dislike mangos and hate racism because I think that words matter and that language frames the way we think. If you disagree with that, that's fine - but you asked why I think the word should be regulated in my home, and that's why. |
I mean, we started saying things like toot and heiny in our house when the kids were babies and have mostly stuck with it but the idea of scolding or punishing my kids for saying fart or butt instead sounds absolutely insane. Other than slurs/hate speech I have no plans to ever micromanage their communication. There are so many more important things you can teach your child and constantly policing the way they speak in front of you over silly terms is basically guaranteed to impact your relationship in a negative way. I think this is a parenting approaxh to let die with your parent's generation. |
Big Bang Theory is 100% worthy of hate. That show is god awful. |
This. My parents never spoke of these things and I was never comfortable talking about things with them. To this day they look visibly uncomfortable if they hear any of those words. It wasn’t the kind of communication style I wanted with my son, so we’re doing things differently than how I grew up. I always want an open line of communication, no matter what the topic. |
Np First mistake. If you forbid a word than they will want to say them more. The only words I would "ban" is the N word, the C word and calling someone fat The other words that you hate:butt, fart etc are silly to ban. |
Op here. Thanks to everyone who responded. Obviously I have no experience being a mother yet, so it's nice to get some feedback on some of my expectations.
I'm trying to examine my motivation for banning words, and asking myself if it's rooted in class anxiety rather than a desire to be polite. I think my mom is insecure about her socioeconomic standing, and I might have some underlying insecurity there as well. I guess it's good to recognize it so I can try to deal with it. Shrug. Don't know. Anyway, that's why I like this board. I don't live in DC and I don't aspire to, but while I've seen an astonishing amount of full of shitness and the most mind-blowing snobbery here, I've also seen more people calling out others on being full of shit than any other message board and I love it. This is like a board of cultural wars and it's so interesting. |
One of my kids solemnly told me that he knew the S word. In fact, he knew BOTH the S words. Apparently those words are "suck" and "stupid". Unfortunately, this was not a sign of my stellar parenting, it was a sign that my borderline dyslexic kid hadn't figured out that the /sh/ sound also starts with an s. |
Banning specific words is lazy. You should concern yourself with what they are saying. One can be crass and hateful without ever using a banned word. We focus more on context and intent than specific words. |
As a father, I curse fairly frequently but my kids know they aren't allowed to. I told them when they're an adult they can make their own decisions about how they talk, but in our house, sh*t, b*tch, f*ck, etc. are off limits for children, just like drinking alcohol, watching R-rated movies and so forth are off limits for children. They're allowed to say something sucks or they hate something (although I often tell them it's too strong of a word and they should save it for something they truly absolutely resent). They're also allowed talk about poop, butts, whatever as much as they want but like one PP said, not at the dinner table. When it gets to be too much I let them know. "Guys are we still talking about butts? How about we talk about something else." |
I think you are on to something. I remember my mother in law telling my son "we say pass gas" when he said something about farting. I reminded her that she says pass gas and we say fart. But I grew up "low class" |
Apparently all these people who think this is about class have never worked in management or finance. The cursing, sex talk, and political incorrectness is off the charts for a lot of wealthy people. Who are the prim and proper "upper class"? Trust fund babies? |
This is exactly right. |
There's a difference between cursing *at* someone (or calling someone stupid), and cursing for effect. The first time my daughter dropped a f*ck, she did it in perfect context, with perfect timing, and perfect tone, and the perfect facial expression. Tough to get mad about that.
Lesson is - if you're going to swear, do it correctly. |
“Colored people” and “People of color” |