Trump Votes by Mail

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You mail your ballot in. It’s scanned. Checked against the local voter registry and verified in a count by a Dem, a Republican and an independent voter. Problem solved. Republicans are trying to sell the ludicrous idea that people are photocopying ballots and mailing many in.

The whole point, there is a paper trail.[b] Fraud is virtually impossible.

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+100. We should vote this way by default. Too much election tampering, create a trail. Provide secure collection ballot boxes manned by aameras and mail scanners. Bonus: Increase revenue for the USPS.

Hmmm. What if your ballot arrives after a fraudulent one? Which one counts?
What if someone else submits ballots for a household where the family has moved to another state. That could easily happen.

You are assuming that voter registrations are up to date and accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The MAGAs don't care if Trump essentially prohibits them from voting or potentially catching a deadly disease. All they apparently care about is if Trump can still vote by mail.

But they know that then they also can't vote for mail? There's no evidence I've come across that expanding vote by mail actually hurts Republicans. They just seem to reflexively think it will.

[Anonymous]

https://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

This is several years old and may have been cleaned up some. But, it still happens. Unless you notify the Board of Registrars, they don't cross dead people off the list. But, Nancy wants to send them a ballot.

[Anonymous]

Vote by mail: fine for me but not for thee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You mail your ballot in. It’s scanned. Checked against the local voter registry and verified in a count by a Dem, a Republican and an independent voter. Problem solved. Republicans are trying to sell the ludicrous idea that people are photocopying ballots and mailing many in.

The whole point, there is a paper trail.[b] Fraud is virtually impossible.

[/b]
+100. We should vote this way by default. Too much election tampering, create a trail. Provide secure collection ballot boxes manned by aameras and mail scanners. Bonus: Increase revenue for the USPS.

Hmmm. What if your ballot arrives after a fraudulent one? Which one counts?
What if someone else submits ballots for a household where the family has moved to another state. That could easily happen.

You are assuming that voter registrations are up to date and accurate.

There is a signature. The clerk can reach out and verify and validate with the signature. see, paper trail!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

This is several years old and may have been cleaned up some. But, it still happens. Unless you notify the Board of Registrars, they don't cross dead people off the list. But, Nancy wants to send them a ballot.

And if someone signs for the dead person, they can be prosecuted for fraud. Really, this isn't hard, and frankly, it just doesn't happen the way people on the right want to think it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

what makes absentee ballots inappropriate for other people?

Nothing, if they are actually absent.

Why does that make it any less open to fraud? Absentee ballots are not just for people out of state, but also unable to safely get to the polling station (sick, disabled, etc). That obviously applies right now, during a pandemic.

Not sure what the rules are now, But, I was a Florida voter many years ago. I was living overseas and voted absentee. There were a couple of hoops to jump through--it was not just a matter of mailing the ballot back. In fact, I may have had to have it notarized. Or, maybe just had to have someone witness it. I was on a military post.

What Pelosi is pushing is to have everyone mailed a ballot. People move. Things happen. For example, we received two different census requests with different code numbers on them--the street address had a different, but somewhat accurate name. This type of thing could easily happen with mailed ballots. People move. You could definitely have two or three families receiving ballots at the same address--and, it could be abused. Just like it has been abused at nursing homes.

So the alternative is to have every American coughing on each other for 2 hours, on the same day, in November. Let's run the epidemiological models on that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The MAGAs don't care if Trump essentially prohibits them from voting or potentially catching a deadly disease. All they apparently care about is if Trump can still vote by mail.

But they know that then they also can't vote for mail? There's no evidence I've come across that expanding vote by mail actually hurts Republicans. They just seem to reflexively think it will.

The republican strategy for years has been to depress turnout. If America has to stand in line during Coronavirus, it will depress turnout.

[Anonymous]

Republicans would rather have 100,000 citizens denied their right to vote in order to prevent one fraudulent vote.

FACT

Come one, cons, go ahead and tell us which situation you would choose:

100,000 eligible voters denied their right to vote, but not a single fraudulent vote

vs

No eligible voter denied the right to vote, but one fraudulent vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The MAGAs don't care if Trump essentially prohibits them from voting or potentially catching a deadly disease. All they apparently care about is if Trump can still vote by mail.

But they know that then they also can't vote for mail? There's no evidence I've come across that expanding vote by mail actually hurts Republicans. They just seem to reflexively think it will.

When people vote - or, more clearly, when everyone who would like to vote is able to access voting equally - Republicans lose. That is why voter suppression is such an important feature of Republicanism.

[Anonymous]

I’m getting an absentee ballot this year. It’s always an option in California but I always just went to the polling place.

Yes, trump is a hypocrite, liar, and idiot. Oregon has all mail in ballots and has no problems and saves money.

[Anonymous]

1 day until Alaska vote-by-mail ends

8 days until Wyoming vote-by-mail ends

19 days until Ohio vote-by-mail ends

23 days until Kansas vote-by-mail ends
http://frontloading.blogspot.com/p/2020-presidential-primary-calendar.html?m=1

[Anonymous]

West Virginia can manage this - will all their votes be fraudulent?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Send me my ballot now. I can vote today: let's save us all time and money by moving to the next phase.