Roster sizes and movement for ENCL/DA clubs

[Anonymous]

And we are not talking about size or speed. The technical ability to receive a ball is not gender-specific. Marta's skill looks as interesting and creative as any other Brazilian. A girl may not strike a ball as hard as a boy, but there's no reason to receive it and have it bounce a yard or two off as if she has rocks in her shoes. That's just a lack of skill. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And we are not talking about size or speed. The technical ability to receive a ball is not gender-specific. Marta's skill looks as interesting and creative as any other Brazilian. A girl may not strike a ball as hard as a boy, but there's no reason to receive it and have it bounce a yard or two off as if she has rocks in her shoes. That's just a lack of skill. Period.

And that girl better be perfect, trap perfectly, make perfect runs, and score perfect goals EVERY SINGLE TIME or we will trash her around the other parents FOREVER.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And we are not talking about size or speed. The technical ability to receive a ball is not gender-specific. Marta's skill looks as interesting and creative as any other Brazilian. A girl may not strike a ball as hard as a boy, but there's no reason to receive it and have it bounce a yard or two off as if she has rocks in her shoes. That's just a lack of skill. Period.

And that girl better be perfect, trap perfectly, make perfect runs, and score perfect goals EVERY SINGLE TIME or we will trash her around the other parents FOREVER.

You sound foolish. You are blowing this beyond what anyone is saying? Perfect? No? Every time? No. But when she can't do it ever, that's a problem. When every single touch is heavy, she lacks skill. That you don't see that is ridiculous. It makes you lose all credibility.

[Anonymous]

Any ninny can tell the difference between a good player who had a bad touch in one instance versus a player who consistently fails to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And we are not talking about size or speed. The technical ability to receive a ball is not gender-specific. Marta's skill looks as interesting and creative as any other Brazilian. A girl may not strike a ball as hard as a boy, but there's no reason to receive it and have it bounce a yard or two off as if she has rocks in her shoes. That's just a lack of skill. Period.

Rocks in their shoes? This thread started about ECNL/DA girls and now you are talking about things you don't regularly see there, but see in NCSL equivalent and below leagues regularly. As another poster mentioned, maybe not every trap is perfect every time in the higher leagues, but they are far better on average, at a much quicker pace of play. If YOU can't see that, then there's no hope for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And we are not talking about size or speed. The technical ability to receive a ball is not gender-specific. Marta's skill looks as interesting and creative as any other Brazilian. A girl may not strike a ball as hard as a boy, but there's no reason to receive it and have it bounce a yard or two off as if she has rocks in her shoes. That's just a lack of skill. Period.

Rocks in their shoes? This thread started about ECNL/DA girls and now you are talking about things you don't regularly see there, but see in NCSL equivalent and below leagues regularly. As another poster mentioned, maybe not every trap is perfect every time in the higher leagues, but they are far better on average, at a much quicker pace of play. If YOU can't see that, then there's no hope for you.

I see it at the ECNL/DA level, which is my complaint. They play faster as in they run faster, they are bigger, and they are quick to slam the ball forward. They have quick reactions. But the technical skill is on average sad, with a couple of exceptions on every team. Maybe that's a sign that we have two leagues competing for the same players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And we are not talking about size or speed. The technical ability to receive a ball is not gender-specific. Marta's skill looks as interesting and creative as any other Brazilian. A girl may not strike a ball as hard as a boy, but there's no reason to receive it and have it bounce a yard or two off as if she has rocks in her shoes. That's just a lack of skill. Period.

Rocks in their shoes? This thread started about ECNL/DA girls and now you are talking about things you don't regularly see there, but see in NCSL equivalent and below leagues regularly. As another poster mentioned, maybe not every trap is perfect every time in the higher leagues, but they are far better on average, at a much quicker pace of play. If YOU can't see that, then there's no hope for you.

I see it at the ECNL/DA level, which is my complaint. They play faster as in they run faster, they are bigger, and they are quick to slam the ball forward. They have quick reactions. But the technical skill is on average sad, with a couple of exceptions on every team. Maybe that's a sign that we have two leagues competing for the same players.

Change your statement to the converse and it's closer to the truth. There are a few players who need technical work and many who are technically sound. "Rocks in the shoes" is the exception, not the rule, though I have to admit I rarely see that level of poor touch every time (sure, once in a while players make an error) from even the least technical players. You are pushing a narrative that just isn't so.

[Anonymous]

Watch some boys' DA teams play. Our girls should have that level of skill. Not that speed or strength, but that level of technical work. They don't. They can, and will rise to the standard that is held.

[Anonymous]

I'm not. I'm expecting more. You want to sell your daughter out on hormone defenses, go for it. Technical skill should be an expectation. Instead, we compliment speed, strength and size. You do you. And I will continue to demand higher standards. Because they can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not. I'm expecting more. You want to sell your daughter out on hormone defenses, go for it. Technical skill should be an expectation. Instead, we compliment speed, strength and size. You do you. And I will continue to demand higher standards. Because they can.

You are both missing the point and attributing things to people that are false. Everyone has room for improvement, including the teams and players that you talked about above. Perhaps you’d be more productive by doing something POSITIVE about the problem you perceive instead of just trashing players anonymously on a public forum. Couple your passion and ideology with your D1 background and start a venture to help teach the skills you find lacking at all players, ECNL or otherwise. Be an evangelist for what you believe, build a training program, and show the results locally.

Short of taking these positive actions, you just come across as a bitter parent who is not happy with his/her DDs environment and looking to lash out at others. I do think the move to Spain would be the best choice in a case like yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not. I'm expecting more. You want to sell your daughter out on hormone defenses, go for it. Technical skill should be an expectation. Instead, we compliment speed, strength and size. You do you. And I will continue to demand higher standards. Because they can.

You are both missing the point and attributing things to people that are false. Everyone has room for improvement, including the teams and players that you talked about above. Perhaps you’d be more productive by doing something POSITIVE about the problem you perceive instead of just trashing players anonymously on a public forum. Couple your passion and ideology with your D1 background and start a venture to help teach the skills you find lacking at all players, ECNL or otherwise. Be an evangelist for what you believe, build a training program, and show the results locally.

Short of taking these positive actions, you just come across as a bitter parent who is not happy with his/her DDs environment and looking to lash out at others. I do think the move to Spain would be the best choice in a case like yours.

I can only control what I can control. I push technical skill as the standard to my own kids, who are all technical players. I encourage them to clubs that emphasize. I don't push them to practice, but for the ones with the passion, I help them find extra activities that are of a technical nature. And on here, I advocate to change the mindsets. Those are what I can do something about. I don't have a European passport, or I would take them to some country, France as much if not more than Spain actually. So that's just luck of the draw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any ninny can tell the difference between a good player who had a bad touch in one instance versus a player who consistently fails to do so.

Exactly and an ECNL and/or DA player will have a bad touch now and then. Watch the YNT play on YouTube - every other touch is bad. So petty to be judging a girl that has a 90 minute game and outshines your DD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any ninny can tell the difference between a good player who had a bad touch in one instance versus a player who consistently fails to do so.

Exactly and an ECNL and/or DA player will have a bad touch now and then. Watch the YNT play on YouTube - every other touch is bad. So petty to be judging a girl that has a 90 minute game and outshines your DD.

Also must sting to have a very technical player who regularly gets their clock cleaned because they don’t have the speed to be where they need to be when they need to be there. Lots of skillets are needed for a complete team and even a player of “average” technical ability can be lethal on the pitch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any ninny can tell the difference between a good player who had a bad touch in one instance versus a player who consistently fails to do so.

Exactly and an ECNL and/or DA player will have a bad touch now and then. Watch the YNT play on YouTube - every other touch is bad. So petty to be judging a girl that has a 90 minute game and outshines your DD.

Also must sting to have a very technical player who regularly gets their clock cleaned because they don’t have the speed to be where they need to be when they need to be there. Lots of skillets are needed for a complete team and even a player of “average” technical ability can be lethal on the pitch.

What really stings is having a technical player who has speed but who'se teammates lack the skill to keep up because of their touch. It breaks the play down over and over. It also stings to have a technical midfielder wide open for a pass, and instead have a centerback slam the ball in a big boot forward that turns possession over to the other team. Those are painful to the player and also very hard to watch on the sidelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any ninny can tell the difference between a good player who had a bad touch in one instance versus a player who consistently fails to do so.

Exactly and an ECNL and/or DA player will have a bad touch now and then. Watch the YNT play on YouTube - every other touch is bad. So petty to be judging a girl that has a 90 minute game and outshines your DD.

How ironic you are now agreeing with me. Yes, I was never talking about a good player with the occasional bad touch. E ven the pros do that.