Colleagues with "fake" advanced degrees? Ordered to address someone as "Doctor" (online doctorate)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who looks up where their medical professionals attended med school?

I want a doctor from a top program, not one who went to KP School of Medicine (Kaiser Permanente School of Medicine).

Same with hiring. That's fantastic that you shelled out $$ for your doctorate, but when I see you next to an applicant with a doctorate from a not-for-profit university, they are getting picked over you.

My niece just completed her psychology degree at Shenandoah University. The level of work she was doing there was no more difficult than AP Psychology. Her practicum for graduation was the level of research you'd see at a HS science fair. Look, it's a perfectly great university, but the degree she earned from there is not on the same level as my B.S. in Psychology from Duke. She's now prepping for grad school and if she gets accepted at some of the programs to which she's applying, she's going to struggle.

I know that it isn't fair, but where you obtained the degree from does matter in the real world. Yes, having one gives you an advantage over someone without, but a UVA degree is no match for a CNU degree.

Yowser. You are a snob.

I get what you are saying about your medical doctor, but you just slammed your niece and it doesn't come across well. How do you know so much about their program if you aren't enrolled and didn't go to school there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because you are the same age as this person ... it does not make you a "professional peer"... you have never had a job... you are same as a 20 something straight out of school.

Where's your online degree from? You frauds are so transparent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An EdD can be a difficult degree to get. I watched my mom earn one. She had to change thesis advisors so that she didn't have to write a 'fourth' thesis to complete the degree, due to the many changes of course her advisor proposed. This was at a well known private university graduate program.

Oh come on. I have a PhD in organic chemistry that took 5.5 years of 60+ hour weeks and I don't ask people to call me Dr.

You think somebody with an EdD degree that studies and advances education for women in 3rd world countries should not be called Dr.? But because you can apparently make sure beer in 1 brewery is exactly the same as beer at the 2nd brewery, you are better?

Isn't the thread mostly about online degrees? Are any EdD programs prestigious or very selective? I personally don't think any EdD period earns you the right to be called doctor, but especially not an EdD from some joke online (for-profit) degree mill. Every EdD I've ever met walks around like they went to Harvard medical school - it's comical.

[Anonymous]

There's only one way to solve this. Next time someone trips at the office yell out "Quick, someone get Dr PhD!"

[Anonymous]

At the core- I’ll call you what I want to call you. Mr. Or Mrs. But not because I’m hating online degrees. I get that the rigor isn’t much- but the traditional higher education route(s) are closed to folks re entering the work force, hoping multiple jobs, single parents ect. Until we address that- I can respect the hustle. But I’ll call you by a Mr/Mrs/Ms pronoun

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the core- I’ll call you what I want to call you. Mr. Or Mrs. But not because I’m hating online degrees. I get that the rigor isn’t much- but the traditional higher education route(s) are closed to folks re entering the work force, hoping multiple jobs, single parents ect. Until we address that- I can respect the hustle. But I’ll call you by a Mr/Mrs/Ms pronoun

+1
I always respect whatever route someone takes to better their professional lives. It may look different for some, and that may have been all they had at their disposal given their life circumstances and current employment, but I will never turn my nose at someone advancing their education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the core- I’ll call you what I want to call you. Mr. Or Mrs. But not because I’m hating online degrees. I get that the rigor isn’t much- but the traditional higher education route(s) are closed to folks re entering the work force, hoping multiple jobs, single parents ect. Until we address that- I can respect the hustle. But I’ll call you by a Mr/Mrs/Ms pronoun

No they are not. One can go for an online degree from a legitimate state university (not necessarily a top 10), yet people opt for diploma mills despite their reputation. Even a single parent or an ex-SAHM can google and be deliberate about their options. Otherwise they either have bad judgment or game the system with the easiest way to check that degree box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who looks up where their medical professionals attended med school?

I want a doctor from a top program, not one who went to KP School of Medicine (Kaiser Permanente School of Medicine).

Same with hiring. That's fantastic that you shelled out $$ for your doctorate, but when I see you next to an applicant with a doctorate from a not-for-profit university, they are getting picked over you.

My niece just completed her psychology degree at Shenandoah University. The level of work she was doing there was no more difficult than AP Psychology. Her practicum for graduation was the level of research you'd see at a HS science fair. Look, it's a perfectly great university, but the degree she earned from there is not on the same level as my B.S. in Psychology from Duke. She's now prepping for grad school and if she gets accepted at some of the programs to which she's applying, she's going to struggle.

I know that it isn't fair, but where you obtained the degree from does matter in the real world. Yes, having one gives you an advantage over someone without, but a UVA degree is no match for a CNU degree.

Of course you went to Duke.

Yes for my medical doctor I look up their schooling. Psychology isn't a medical doctor so I don't really care, more worried about making sure the person isn't an asshole (or went to Duke).

OP, just let it go.

[Anonymous]

For profit universities aren’t fake. Their degrees consist of real courses and theses. You’ve decided that her accomplishments don’t meet your standards, but that’s kind of like someone who drives a Mercedes calling a Ford “fake.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A person who has a Ph.D. and demands to be addressed as Dr. is a jerk regardless of where they earned or bought their degree (the exception is an academic context where all Ph.D. are referred to as Dr.).

I'm the OP. The specific person I mentioned does not have an (online) PhD, it's another type of doctorate.

Address your own insecurity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the federal government and federal contracting world degrees from diploma mills are increasingly common. Fed position have education requirements.
Veterans can use their benefits for-profit schools, combined with hiring preference,making it a no-brainer: why would you go to a school where you'd have to actually study, when you can get a "diploma" that checks the box without doing much work?
There may have been a stigma associated with for-profit colleges, but it seems to be gone now. People proudly announce graduations and "doctorates" from schools like Phoenix and Capella on LinkedIn and list them in online bios on federal web pages. It's sad.

Yep. I worked with a foreign service officer with an MBA from university of Phoenix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who looks up where their medical professionals attended med school?

I want a doctor from a top program, not one who went to KP School of Medicine (Kaiser Permanente School of Medicine).

Same with hiring. That's fantastic that you shelled out $$ for your doctorate, but when I see you next to an applicant with a doctorate from a not-for-profit university, they are getting picked over you.

My niece just completed her psychology degree at Shenandoah University. The level of work she was doing there was no more difficult than AP Psychology. Her practicum for graduation was the level of research you'd see at a HS science fair. Look, it's a perfectly great university, but the degree she earned from there is not on the same level as my B.S. in Psychology from Duke. She's now prepping for grad school and if she gets accepted at some of the programs to which she's applying, she's going to struggle.

I know that it isn't fair, but where you obtained the degree from does matter in the real world. Yes, having one gives you an advantage over someone without, but a UVA degree is no match for a CNU degree.

Alas, proof that no level of education protects against being a douchebag.

[Anonymous]

99% of people who demand that others call them "Dr." are women and POC. And I say this as a woman POC. I honestly think some people just have a huge chip on their shoulder. I work with one coworker who makes us call her "Dr. Johnson" when everyone else also has grad degrees/law degrees/doctorates and are called Jim/Bob/Lisa. It's ridiculous and we do make fun of her for it. I saw her resume come through. She got the doctorate at a low ranked state school and she made mediocre grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because you are the same age as this person ... it does not make you a "professional peer"... you have never had a job... you are same as a 20 something straight out of school.

Where's your online degree from? You frauds are so transparent.

Triggered!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:99% of people who demand that others call them "Dr." are women and POC. And I say this as a woman POC. I honestly think some people just have a huge chip on their shoulder. I work with one coworker who makes us call her "Dr. Johnson" when everyone else also has grad degrees/law degrees/doctorates and are called Jim/Bob/Lisa. It's ridiculous and we do make fun of her for it. I saw her resume come through. She got the doctorate at a low ranked state school and she made mediocre grades.

I work at an organization where almost everybody is MD and PhD and your anecdotal "analysis" is way off from my 25 years of anecdotal experience.