My son just punched our puppy for jumping on him.

[Anonymous]

Troll post. The “I’m shaking” person is always a troll.

[Anonymous]

Not sure why I’m being accused of being a troll. This is a serious issue and I’m taking it seriously. I literally was shaking and crying for quite some time before I calmed down and talked to my son. His consequence was not being able to swim at the pool today with a friend. We did have a serious discussion about how he needs to be one of the trainers of the dog, not just his playmate. THANKS FOR THE HELPFUL RESPONSES!
-OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Use of force with animals is a complicated thing that has to be taught.

For many people, for example, putting a bit in a horse's mouth and riding over jumps is okay, and correcting a refusal with a crop is okay, but "excessive" use of a whip is not okay. Pulling on the bit is okay but drawing blood with a bit is not okay. It's complicated!

Giving puppy a quick correction jerk of the leash for pulling might be okay if your intention is to avoid a tug-of-war and you're using positive reinforcement as well. Using the leash to pull puppy towards something he is scared of is not okay. Jerking the leash because you're mad at puppy is not okay.

So, kid needs to understand that any force with puppy is always part of a considered training system and never done in anger. I would say take puppy and kid to a puppy class (or to a private session with a trainer) so kid can have a better understanding of the process.

Force free training is a rapidly growing movement. People are competing in high levels of dog (and horse) competition without choke collars or bits, and seeing plenty of success. My hope is 5 years from now there is no conflict at all--people realize that force is unnecessary. (In your example, the vast, vast majority of trainers now see even leash pops as unnecessary--between circling, front harnesses, fading treats...loose leash walking is able to be accomplished by the average joe without force, and thus with far more safety).

This is a huge overstatement. Many dog trainers who were positive only have evolved to balanced training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why I’m being accused of being a troll. This is a serious issue and I’m taking it seriously. I literally was shaking and crying for quite some time before I calmed down and talked to my son. His consequence was not being able to swim at the pool today with a friend. We did have a serious discussion about how he needs to be one of the trainers of the dog, not just his playmate. THANKS FOR THE HELPFUL RESPONSES!
-OP

OP, what exactly is upsetting to you? Why are you shaking?

[Anonymous]

Future serial killer. They always started out by harming animals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rehome the puppy.

Are you serious? Why rehome the puppy?

Okay, OP should put her kid up for adoption.

Wow.
Not even past the first page and this thread has already done gone off the wheels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Future serial killer. They always started out by harming animals.

Don’t bring Steve Avery into this.....

[Anonymous]

OP, go over the rules for the puppy with your son. These should be brief and commonsensical. The puppy has to be fed. The Puppy has to be walked. “No punching the puppy ever”

You and your Son and other kids can make a poster of the rules. Have your kids write or decorate the poster and put it on the wall. For the first week praise your son for following the rules every day and praise him from time to time after that.

[Anonymous]

Don’t leave the puppy alone with the child. Next time if provoked the dog might bite and write it’s own death sentence.

[Anonymous]

Therapy

Abusing animals is the biggest red flag for future sociopathic behavior

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Therapy

Abusing animals is the biggest red flag for future sociopathic behavior

Jeffrey Dahmer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Therapy

Abusing animals is the biggest red flag for future sociopathic behavior

Animal abuse is deliberate planned behavior.

[Anonymous]

Wtf is wrong with this child. I would be so disappointed.

[Anonymous]

OP. I will assume this is a one-off.

I was really surprised at how much harder our puppy was on my nine year old than she was on me. Kids are less experienced, smaller, and the dogs treat them as similarly low-ranked individuals. Just like the puppy needs to learn how to act, so does your child. Your child acted like a child.

S, assuming the punch didn’t do any damage to the pup, scold the kid, send him to his room. Use your lowest meanest voice and send the kid to a time out. Later, discuss it. Your kid probably thinks the two of them are closer to equals than they actually are.

Kids make this mistake. Do some teaching and move on.

Now, if it keeps happening and your kid isn’t learning, rehouse the dog (or the kid...)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rehome the six year old.

Fixed that for ya’!