If you’re a SAHM, do you pull your kid out of preschool for outings?

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Anonymous wrote:I was a SAHM and put my 3 year old in a full day Montessori. He only went there for 3-4 hours every day. I liked the school, teachers and the cohort a lot, but I wanted my DC to use it as a playgroup primarily. We were unable to find a high quality playgroup that we liked so we decided on the Montessori. To secure our spot, we paid the full price. The school and teachers were pretty accommodating. My kid went there after he woke up in a leisurely fashion, had a nice breakfast at home and then he went to play and learn with his friends. I had no problems in pulling him out for fun outings, or if he did not want to go for some reason or some days when he or I just wanted to hang out at home. I also let him stay longer if there was something fun happening at school. In the years he was there, I helped to organize a lot of fun events in his school and classroom.

This is the epitome of entitlement.

Why? Honestly, what is the problem with this? Serious question.

I am the above poster. I actually know several people, myself included, who have paid for a full-day spot for flexibility, but don’t utilize the entire block of time. It just adds to the flexibility. Not sure how this is entitled or disruptive for the teachers or class if communication is open and advance notice is given of longer days?

Did you read the PP’s description? She said no playgroup or other activity measured up to her standards, so she enrolled her child in a full montessori program to basically be a 2 hour playgroup every day.

Sure I read it, and she said 3 to 4 hours, not two. Maybe there was something about OP’s tone that didn’t land with some folks here, but again: What’s wrong with NOT keeping your kid in a center for the entire day if you want flexibility? And what’s wrong with wanting a play-based experience for a three-year-old? Enlighten me.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting a play based experience. The issue is that she should have chosen a morning only program or a nanny, like the rest of us, rather than expecting all the other children and the teachers to accomodate her little Larlo “thought leader.”

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Anonymous wrote:I was a SAHM and put my 3 year old in a full day Montessori. He only went there for 3-4 hours every day. I liked the school, teachers and the cohort a lot, but I wanted my DC to use it as a playgroup primarily. We were unable to find a high quality playgroup that we liked so we decided on the Montessori. To secure our spot, we paid the full price. The school and teachers were pretty accommodating. My kid went there after he woke up in a leisurely fashion, had a nice breakfast at home and then he went to play and learn with his friends. I had no problems in pulling him out for fun outings, or if he did not want to go for some reason or some days when he or I just wanted to hang out at home. I also let him stay longer if there was something fun happening at school. In the years he was there, I helped to organize a lot of fun events in his school and classroom.

This is the epitome of entitlement.

Why? Honestly, what is the problem with this? Serious question.

I think it’s one thing if the PP put her child in the program only for the morning and picked up for lunch/nap/afternoon with her child, but she describes it as her child waking up and eating in a “leisurely fashion” and basically she and her child doing whatever they wanted in terms of the daycare, showing up whenever and leaving whenever. That’s not entitled? My child’s providers specially sent home a letter asking us to please be on time in the mornings so as not to disrupt the classroom dynamic and routines.

Yes, most people need to keep to a set schedule or the classroom becomes a free-for-all, but then, most people aren’t willing to pay for full time school/care while only using it 3-4 hours/day. The school probably saw the value in collecting the money and keeping the student/teacher ratio low. Besides, this would be a little less disruptive in a Montessori classroom than a traditional classroom. If you can have it all, why wouldn’t you opt to?

Anyway, OP, if it’s possible, have you considered changing dc’s schedule to MWF?

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Anonymous wrote:I was a SAHM and put my 3 year old in a full day Montessori. He only went there for 3-4 hours every day. I liked the school, teachers and the cohort a lot, but I wanted my DC to use it as a playgroup primarily. We were unable to find a high quality playgroup that we liked so we decided on the Montessori. To secure our spot, we paid the full price. The school and teachers were pretty accommodating. My kid went there after he woke up in a leisurely fashion, had a nice breakfast at home and then he went to play and learn with his friends. I had no problems in pulling him out for fun outings, or if he did not want to go for some reason or some days when he or I just wanted to hang out at home. I also let him stay longer if there was something fun happening at school. In the years he was there, I helped to organize a lot of fun events in his school and classroom.

This is the epitome of entitlement.

Why? Honestly, what is the problem with this? Serious question.

I am the above poster. I actually know several people, myself included, who have paid for a full-day spot for flexibility, but don’t utilize the entire block of time. It just adds to the flexibility. Not sure how this is entitled or disruptive for the teachers or class if communication is open and advance notice is given of longer days?

Did you read the PP’s description? She said no playgroup or other activity measured up to her standards, so she enrolled her child in a full montessori program to basically be a 2 hour playgroup every day.

Sure I read it, and she said 3 to 4 hours, not two. Maybe there was something about OP’s tone that didn’t land with some folks here, but again: What’s wrong with NOT keeping your kid in a center for the entire day if you want flexibility? And what’s wrong with wanting a play-based experience for a three-year-old? Enlighten me.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting a play based experience. The issue is that she should have chosen a morning only program or a nanny, like the rest of us, rather than expecting all the other children and the teachers to accomodate her little Larlo “thought leader.”

I know the crazy is confusing, but I think pp meant her DH is the thought leader in their little arrangement. Although doubtless Larlo Jr was birthed a quality thought leader as well. First to smear poop and all that.

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Anonymous wrote:I was a SAHM and put my 3 year old in a full day Montessori. He only went there for 3-4 hours every day. I liked the school, teachers and the cohort a lot, but I wanted my DC to use it as a playgroup primarily. We were unable to find a high quality playgroup that we liked so we decided on the Montessori. To secure our spot, we paid the full price. The school and teachers were pretty accommodating. My kid went there after he woke up in a leisurely fashion, had a nice breakfast at home and then he went to play and learn with his friends. I had no problems in pulling him out for fun outings, or if he did not want to go for some reason or some days when he or I just wanted to hang out at home. I also let him stay longer if there was something fun happening at school. In the years he was there, I helped to organize a lot of fun events in his school and classroom.

This is the epitome of entitlement.

Why? Honestly, what is the problem with this? Serious question.

I am the above poster. I actually know several people, myself included, who have paid for a full-day spot for flexibility, but don’t utilize the entire block of time. It just adds to the flexibility. Not sure how this is entitled or disruptive for the teachers or class if communication is open and advance notice is given of longer days?

Did you read the PP’s description? She said no playgroup or other activity measured up to her standards, so she enrolled her child in a full montessori program to basically be a 2 hour playgroup every day.

Sure I read it, and she said 3 to 4 hours, not two. Maybe there was something about OP’s tone that didn’t land with some folks here, but again: What’s wrong with NOT keeping your kid in a center for the entire day if you want flexibility? And what’s wrong with wanting a play-based experience for a three-year-old? Enlighten me.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting a play based experience. The issue is that she should have chosen a morning only program or a nanny, like the rest of us, rather than expecting all the other children and the teachers to accommodate her little Larlo “thought leader.”

It did not inconvenience any children, teachers and the school, but it seems to have surely inconveninced a lot of angry and envious people here. Now that is entitlement.

Do you even know how Montessori works as opposed to a daycare or playgroup? Kids are doing a lot of independent stuff and have their own "tasks". It is creative and independent. They have some things that they do in groups or all together, but pretty much go at their own pace.

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There’s nothing wrong with wanting a play based experience. The issue is that she should have chosen a morning only program or a nanny, like the rest of us, rather than expecting all the other children and the teachers to accomodate her little Larlo “thought leader.”

Ahh...this seems to be the crux of the problem. She paid for flexibility and quality, unlike the rest of you, and could afford to waste the money. The school and teachers were pretty chill about it. What's not to love a fully paid spot that is not utilized for the full time. Makes for a smaller class ration. + it is Montessori. There is immense amount of flexibility in it too.

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I know the crazy is confusing, but I think pp meant her DH is the thought leader in their little arrangement. Although doubtless Larlo Jr was birthed a quality thought leader as well. First to smear poop and all that.

Yup. It the DH who thought it will be a great idea to eat the cost, pay for the full day spot (and a lot of spots were open even after that, so no paying customer was displaced), and get the benefit of professional, well-educated and experienced teachers and a group of nice playmates. If you think being the first to smear poop is a sign of a budding thought leader, then I can totally guess the level of genius you may have birthed!

I think all the angst is really about SAHMs like me riding the gravy train and providing an easier lives for our pampered snowflakes!!

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Anonymous wrote:I was a SAHM and put my 3 year old in a full day Montessori. He only went there for 3-4 hours every day. I liked the school, teachers and the cohort a lot, but I wanted my DC to use it as a playgroup primarily. We were unable to find a high quality playgroup that we liked so we decided on the Montessori. To secure our spot, we paid the full price. The school and teachers were pretty accommodating. My kid went there after he woke up in a leisurely fashion, had a nice breakfast at home and then he went to play and learn with his friends. I had no problems in pulling him out for fun outings, or if he did not want to go for some reason or some days when he or I just wanted to hang out at home. I also let him stay longer if there was something fun happening at school. In the years he was there, I helped to organize a lot of fun events in his school and classroom.

This is the epitome of entitlement.

Why? Honestly, what is the problem with this? Serious question.

I am the above poster. I actually know several people, myself included, who have paid for a full-day spot for flexibility, but don’t utilize the entire block of time. It just adds to the flexibility. Not sure how this is entitled or disruptive for the teachers or class if communication is open and advance notice is given of longer days?

Did you read the PP’s description? She said no playgroup or other activity measured up to her standards, so she enrolled her child in a full montessori program to basically be a 2 hour playgroup every day.

Sure I read it, and she said 3 to 4 hours, not two. Maybe there was something about OP’s tone that didn’t land with some folks here, but again: What’s wrong with NOT keeping your kid in a center for the entire day if you want flexibility? And what’s wrong with wanting a play-based experience for a three-year-old? Enlighten me.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting a play based experience. The issue is that she should have chosen a morning only program or a nanny, like the rest of us, rather than expecting all the other children and the teachers to accommodate her little Larlo “thought leader.”

It did not inconvenience any children, teachers and the school, but it seems to have surely inconveninced a lot of angry and envious people here. Now that is entitlement.

Do you even know how Montessori works as opposed to a daycare or playgroup? Kids are doing a lot of independent stuff and have their own "tasks". It is creative and independent. They have some things that they do in groups or all together, but pretty much go at their own pace.

How do you know no one was inconvenienced? Are you the PP?

I don’t think anyone is envious, but they are angry at your tone deaf self congratulations. Lots of us throw money at the playgroup/ preschool problem and only use a fraction of the hours we pay for, but we are respectful of the classroom routines and we don’t congratulate ourselves on being “thought leaders” because we have the financial flexibility to pay full time and use it part time (and that your DH had to think of this idea for you is weird). We also don’t suggest it to others as a revolutionary idea, because if people have the money thinking to do this is not that difficult. We recognize that most people either simply can not afford to do this or would consider it an unwise way to handle their finances.

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There’s nothing wrong with wanting a play based experience. The issue is that she should have chosen a morning only program or a nanny, like the rest of us, rather than expecting all the other children and the teachers to accomodate her little Larlo “thought leader.”

Ahh...this seems to be the crux of the problem. She paid for flexibility and quality, unlike the rest of you, and could afford to waste the money. The school and teachers were pretty chill about it. What's not to love a fully paid spot that is not utilized for the full time. Makes for a smaller class ration. + it is Montessori. There is immense amount of flexibility in it too.

I don’t think so. Plenty of us can afford full time care even as SAHP, but didn’t go that route. I specifically only looked at morning only programs for DS for the reasons PPs gave above. Though you and the Montessori PP certainly seem to think money is all that matters. This isn’t about that, and it’s odd that you and she think her approaching is ok because she’s paying full price and can afford it, and that the rest of us only object because we are jealous because we don’t have the finances.

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Anonymous wrote:I was a SAHM and put my 3 year old in a full day Montessori. He only went there for 3-4 hours every day. I liked the school, teachers and the cohort a lot, but I wanted my DC to use it as a playgroup primarily. We were unable to find a high quality playgroup that we liked so we decided on the Montessori. To secure our spot, we paid the full price. The school and teachers were pretty accommodating. My kid went there after he woke up in a leisurely fashion, had a nice breakfast at home and then he went to play and learn with his friends. I had no problems in pulling him out for fun outings, or if he did not want to go for some reason or some days when he or I just wanted to hang out at home. I also let him stay longer if there was something fun happening at school. In the years he was there, I helped to organize a lot of fun events in his school and classroom.

This is the epitome of entitlement.

Why? Honestly, what is the problem with this? Serious question.

I am the above poster. I actually know several people, myself included, who have paid for a full-day spot for flexibility, but don’t utilize the entire block of time. It just adds to the flexibility. Not sure how this is entitled or disruptive for the teachers or class if communication is open and advance notice is given of longer days?

Did you read the PP’s description? She said no playgroup or other activity measured up to her standards, so she enrolled her child in a full montessori program to basically be a 2 hour playgroup every day.

Sure I read it, and she said 3 to 4 hours, not two. Maybe there was something about OP’s tone that didn’t land with some folks here, but again: What’s wrong with NOT keeping your kid in a center for the entire day if you want flexibility? And what’s wrong with wanting a play-based experience for a three-year-old? Enlighten me.

There’s nothing wrong with wanting a play based experience. The issue is that she should have chosen a morning only program or a nanny, like the rest of us, rather than expecting all the other children and the teachers to accommodate her little Larlo “thought leader.”

It did not inconvenience any children, teachers and the school, but it seems to have surely inconveninced a lot of angry and envious people here. Now that is entitlement.

Do you even know how Montessori works as opposed to a daycare or playgroup? Kids are doing a lot of independent stuff and have their own "tasks". It is creative and independent. They have some things that they do in groups or all together, but pretty much go at their own pace.

How do you know no one was inconvenienced? Are you the PP?

I don’t think anyone is envious, but they are angry at your tone deaf self congratulations. Lots of us throw money at the playgroup/ preschool problem and only use a fraction of the hours we pay for, but we are respectful of the classroom routines and we don’t congratulate ourselves on being “thought leaders” because we have the financial flexibility to pay full time and use it part time (and that your DH had to think of this idea for you is weird). We also don’t suggest it to others as a revolutionary idea, because if people have the money thinking to do this is not that difficult. We recognize that most people either simply can not afford to do this or would consider it an unwise way to handle their finances.

+1

And as a teacher, I can tell you that I have accomodated many, many ridiculous requests from parents because the clueless administration okayed it. But it was obvious to everyone that those requests were inconvenient and ridiculous, and we just went along with it because the parents were difficult types.

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I know the crazy is confusing, but I think pp meant her DH is the thought leader in their little arrangement. Although doubtless Larlo Jr was birthed a quality thought leader as well. First to smear poop and all that.

Yup. It the DH who thought it will be a great idea to eat the cost, pay for the full day spot (and a lot of spots were open even after that, so no paying customer was displaced), and get the benefit of professional, well-educated and experienced teachers and a group of nice playmates. If you think being the first to smear poop is a sign of a budding thought leader, then I can totally guess the level of genius you may have birthed!

I think all the angst is really about SAHMs like me riding the gravy train and providing an easier lives for our pampered snowflakes!!

You must send your kid to a low quality “Montessori” school if they don’t bat an eye at you treating it like a drop off babysitting service.

No one is jealous of you, sweetie- just mildly disgusted.

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Anonymous wrote:I was a SAHM and put my 3 year old in a full day Montessori. He only went there for 3-4 hours every day. I liked the school, teachers and the cohort a lot, but I wanted my DC to use it as a playgroup primarily. We were unable to find a high quality playgroup that we liked so we decided on the Montessori. To secure our spot, we paid the full price. The school and teachers were pretty accommodating. My kid went there after he woke up in a leisurely fashion, had a nice breakfast at home and then he went to play and learn with his friends. I had no problems in pulling him out for fun outings, or if he did not want to go for some reason or some days when he or I just wanted to hang out at home. I also let him stay longer if there was something fun happening at school. In the years he was there, I helped to organize a lot of fun events in his school and classroom.

This is the epitome of entitlement.

OMG this kid is going to end up such a nightmare child.

I know of literally NO ONE who has done it this way. I'm really surprised that the school allows such a disruptive practice.

And yet, I did this and it worked out fantastic. My kid is amazing, socially well adjusted and a high achiever academically and he is in HS now.

Is it entitlement? Not really. Entitlement is when you want to get something of value for free, just because you exist. AND since none of you paid for this for my child, I do not understand this hand wringing by you all. If my DH had objected, it would make sense, since he was earning the money. However, it was him who steered me towards this solution (now I know why he is a thought leader).

I paid a lot for the benefit of having well trained and educated adults in charge of the classroom where my kid was playing, socializing and learning for the few hours. And I wanted a rich learning environment and a diverse group of playmates for him for a few hours. Since I was home, there was no reason why he could not avail of this opportunity, when he wanted to. Plus, he was only 3 at that time. It was supposed to be an enjoyable experience for him. Not a full time daycare, not a drudgery, not work.

Did the teachers mind? Not really. It was having one less charge in the classroom at times and they were fine with it. The classroom dynamics was pretty great and all kids played well together and no one was disruptive. Did the administration mind? No. They had spots available and having a full paying child for limited use of the Montessori school was very acceptable to them. + I was a parent who occasionally provide enrichment activity for the entire school.

The rest of the classmates? A fairly good group of parents and kids are still friends and associate with each other because our kids have been on similar academic paths and programs.

And yes, he and I really enjoyed those years. It was fantastic to be at home and do all of this fun stuff with him and still carve out some "me time" for me knowing that he was in a secure place with educated caregivers who were being paid more than minimum wages.

OMG, thanks for the gem, PP. I am now going to start praising my DH as a "thought leader".

"My Larlo picks off half the frozen pepperonis before he bakes his pizza. Less greasy." #thoughtleader

"My Larlo protects our marriage by wear a fanny pack from the 1990s when he travels, thus warding away potential homewrecking predators." #thoughtleader

I think the thought leader thing makes it clear that PP is a troll, right? Please tell me such tone deaf, entitled folk don’t actually exist.

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I know the crazy is confusing, but I think pp meant her DH is the thought leader in their little arrangement. Although doubtless Larlo Jr was birthed a quality thought leader as well. First to smear poop and all that.

Yup. It the DH who thought it will be a great idea to eat the cost, pay for the full day spot (and a lot of spots were open even after that, so no paying customer was displaced), and get the benefit of professional, well-educated and experienced teachers and a group of nice playmates. If you think being the first to smear poop is a sign of a budding thought leader, then I can totally guess the level of genius you may have birthed!

I think all the angst is really about SAHMs like me riding the gravy train and providing an easier lives for our pampered snowflakes!!

You must send your kid to a low quality “Montessori” school if they don’t bat an eye at you treating it like a drop off babysitting service.

No one is jealous of you, sweetie- just mildly disgusted.

Oh no Hon, you are so jealous that you are cross-eyed with bitterness!! Don't worry, I understand and you have my pity. The daycare is what you can afford and what your kid who is not potty trained can be allowed into. And, your childcare provider does not need to be very educated to wipe the butt of your kids, right? Seems your larlo's skills and your parenting skills are low qyality, but well matched with the daycare you chose. Obviously, you have no understanding of how a Montessori classroom works.

I am not disgusted with you, just pity you slightly. I guess your kid will be having poop accidents in ES and you will be too bothered

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It’s a little early for the booze, PP.

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I know the crazy is confusing, but I think pp meant her DH is the thought leader in their little arrangement. Although doubtless Larlo Jr was birthed a quality thought leader as well. First to smear poop and all that.

Yup. It the DH who thought it will be a great idea to eat the cost, pay for the full day spot (and a lot of spots were open even after that, so no paying customer was displaced), and get the benefit of professional, well-educated and experienced teachers and a group of nice playmates. If you think being the first to smear poop is a sign of a budding thought leader, then I can totally guess the level of genius you may have birthed!

I think all the angst is really about SAHMs like me riding the gravy train and providing an easier lives for our pampered snowflakes!!

You must send your kid to a low quality “Montessori” school if they don’t bat an eye at you treating it like a drop off babysitting service.

No one is jealous of you, sweetie- just mildly disgusted.

Wow. I was just going to defend pp until she posted again.

I stopped working when my child was in his last year of preschool. He went to a school with extended care and most of his school was working parents. I had a part time job previously so it worked for our lifestyle. Like pp, I would drop off and pick up as we wanted. However, he was always there during the core hours. I did think my picking DS up was a bit disruptive. Other kids my child has known for years started asking their parents to pick them up early too. For us, the 4s class was M-F. I think most programs are M-F for pre-K right before kids start kindergarten and it does prepare them well for elementary.

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I know the crazy is confusing, but I think pp meant her DH is the thought leader in their little arrangement. Although doubtless Larlo Jr was birthed a quality thought leader as well. First to smear poop and all that.

Yup. It the DH who thought it will be a great idea to eat the cost, pay for the full day spot (and a lot of spots were open even after that, so no paying customer was displaced), and get the benefit of professional, well-educated and experienced teachers and a group of nice playmates. If you think being the first to smear poop is a sign of a budding thought leader, then I can totally guess the level of genius you may have birthed!

I think all the angst is really about SAHMs like me riding the gravy train and providing an easier lives for our pampered snowflakes!!

You must send your kid to a low quality “Montessori” school if they don’t bat an eye at you treating it like a drop off babysitting service.

No one is jealous of you, sweetie- just mildly disgusted.

Wow. I was just going to defend pp until she posted again.

I stopped working when my child was in his last year of preschool. He went to a school with extended care and most of his school was working parents. I had a part time job previously so it worked for our lifestyle. Like pp, I would drop off and pick up as we wanted. However, he was always there during the core hours. I did think my picking DS up was a bit disruptive. Other kids my child has known for years started asking their parents to pick them up early too. For us, the 4s class was M-F. I think most programs are M-F for pre-K right before kids start kindergarten and it does prepare them well for elementary.

PP is mean but.. mine went to Montessori and they wanted the kids in school by start time you couldn't be late as a habit. Mine didn't stay the afternoon at 3yo and I picked up right after lunch so not to be disruptive.