Why does DCPS let in OOB students when classes are already crowded?
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Anonymous
yup San Francisco utter failure |
Anonymous
A city wide lottery or application process for HS doesn’t seem that crazy. I agree it’s nuts to schlep first graders across town, but high school students could do it. |
Anonymous
The question in this thread isn’t about high schools. |
Anonymous
| NYC application process also heading south. |
Anonymous
You realize ITS has nothing to do w/ the teachers' contract w/ dcps ... right? Your charter is totally irrelevant to this convo. |
Anonymous
Whether or not it's a good idea is debatable. If you believe it shouldn't be allowable, then talk to DCPS HQ about it. |
Anonymous
A lot of people would move out of the city without guaranteed MS and HS rights. Neighbors would stop supporting schools because there wouldn't be any in boundary schools. Deal, Wilson, and other more desirable schools are desirable because of the student population. DCPS has historically had a population with poor parental advocacy and a host of issues with the issues that poverty brings. The schools that are doing better don't have these same issues specifically because of the student/parent population. Take that away and everything becomes Dunbar or Coolidge or Cardozo. I think doing anything that undermines any progress DCPS has made would be the wrong move. Build the other schools up but don't tear the other schools down or DCPS will revert to the 1980's. This doesn't even touch on the fact that many parents don't want their MS/HS kid spending a long time on commute. My MS kid barely has time for school, after school activities, dinner, homework, shower, reading, and bedtime in time to wake up and get ready for school again. I can't imagine subtracting half an hour each way for commute. We specifically moved in boundary for Deal and Wilson. We would never consider Coolidge, etc. Parents like us would just move out of the city if there aren't by rights good schools. |
Anonymous
I should have added that Cardozo used to be a good school prior to the riots. That was due to the student/parent population. Look what happened when that MC/UMC population was no longer at the school. It appears that proponents of eliminating school boundaries just don't want some people to have what they don't. |
Anonymous
There are plenty of teachers who don't understand budgeting, contracts, and operations. They kvetch about a lot of stuff from the good old days or their previous school. For a general education classroom, 25 is not at all unreasonable or unmanageable. Maybe the teacher isn't getting the support they're used to? Or maybe they're new to teaching or that school? OOB students are not the sole reason for systemic issues. It's not worth concerning yourself unless you suspect out of DC residency. BTW there's no evidence that smaller class sizes produce better results. If that were true, DCPS would be outperforming the burbs and EotP would crush WotP. Class size isn't everything. |
Anonymous
 That's not how it works. Anyway, the explosion of charter schools and continuous funding of vouchers have exacerbated the uncertainty of OOB assignments and lottery.
If you want blame politicians for all that school choice, wag your finger at Republican congress members and conservative donors who DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE. Congressional overseers, lobbyists, and a mayoral politics have had way too much influence on education in the District for decades. "Liberal DC" didn't create the mess alone and can't fix it alone. If you have any magic solutions that haven't already been experimented on DC children, we're all ears. |
Anonymous
Honestly, DCPS and the Mayor don't really care if "parents like you" move out of DC. * It solves the overcrowding issue at Deal and Wilson * It makes housing more affordable * It reduces the achievement gap, if your kids are white and high-scoring * It allows them to focus more resources on kids who need more and whose parents complain less. You may think you pay a lot of DC taxes, but if your household's countable income is $400k, your DC income taxes are $7875 a year. Even if you paid $10,000 in property taxes on top of that you're not up to DCPS' per-pupil average for even one kid. They're better off with you leaving and an empty-nester or DINK family, even with a lower income, taking your place. And of course, not all families who care about education will leave. If they do, they'll lose out on free PK and see that DCPS class sizes are often smaller than MoCo or Arlington. And while suburban districts also offer things like language immersion and IB and Montessori, their kids might not get in. I'm not saying it's right for DC and DCPS to think this way about you, but they really won't be sad to see you go. |
Anonymous
Did you read the list of allowable reasons for exceptions to this policy? You can drive a truck through them, meaning they can do what they believe they need to. |