Haters going to Hate but Players know the real deal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, does anyone know specifically how players are developed differently at these clubs versus other clubs?

McLean mostly recruits. There isn’t much development going on there.

[Anonymous]

^^^I would encourage you to check out a practice. One of the local stars left Bethesda recently to join McLean. Clearly, she was already a talent and moving clubs was not going to increase her college offers (I believe that she is already committed to Clemson) but she wanted a different experience than what she had at Bethesda. Ask her. She is on Mclean's top-ranked U18/U19 ECNL team. People will argue that she was recruited but she obviously recognized that McLean was offering something in terms of training/development that Bethesda did not offer her.

It just seems to be that FCV/Mclean are a level above the rest of the elite clubs in the DMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^I would encourage you to check out a practice. One of the local stars left Bethesda recently to join McLean. Clearly, she was already a talent and moving clubs was not going to increase her college offers (I believe that she is already committed to Clemson) but she wanted a different experience than what she had at Bethesda. Ask her. She is on Mclean's top-ranked U18/U19 ECNL team. People will argue that she was recruited but she obviously recognized that McLean was offering something in terms of training/development that Bethesda did not offer her.

It just seems to be that FCV/Mclean are a level above the rest of the elite clubs in the DMV.

LOL, what nonsense, coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

His message was on point and is a great view of the big picture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

Those girls just bouncing balls off their heads have to actually be accepted in the colleges.. commitments are not gifts or free passes. They are spots on a soccer team. I guess they did LEARN some useful skills to get into the top schools they are committing to.

The post was obviously written by someone who has a kid on VSA or VDA and has no IDEA what the commitment experience entails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

Those girls just bouncing balls off their heads have to actually be accepted in the colleges.. commitments are not gifts or free passes. They are spots on a soccer team. I guess they did LEARN some useful skills to get into the top schools they are committing to.

The post was obviously written by someone who has a kid on VSA or VDA and has no IDEA what the commitment experience entails.

Some have good commitments, others don’t. And the same is true for the non-recruiter clubs. The fact that there is a small contingent here who continually strains to try to maintain some sort of perceived past hegemony over soccer in this area speaks louder than anything else.

We get it, you are trying to maintain perceptions. But the reality is passing you by and those VSA, VDA, Loudoun, etc... parents are just benefactors of the new paradigm in DC youth soccer that no small set of clubs hold the cards anymore.

Sorry that your cheese has been moved. Try to learn to adjust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

Those girls just bouncing balls off their heads have to actually be accepted in the colleges.. commitments are not gifts or free passes. They are spots on a soccer team. I guess they did LEARN some useful skills to get into the top schools they are committing to.

The post was obviously written by someone who has a kid on VSA or VDA and has no IDEA what the commitment experience entails.

umm...what? Makes no sense! Most of the DA and Top ECNL girls are committed to top colleges - not a few. MOST. Do your research before you open you mouth!

Some have good commitments, others don’t. And the same is true for the non-recruiter clubs. The fact that there is a small contingent here who continually strains to try to maintain some sort of perceived past hegemony over soccer in this area speaks louder than anything else.

We get it, you are trying to maintain perceptions. But the reality is passing you by and those VSA, VDA, Loudoun, etc... parents are just benefactors of the new paradigm in DC youth soccer that no small set of clubs hold the cards anymore.

Sorry that your cheese has been moved. Try to learn to adjust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

Those girls just bouncing balls off their heads have to actually be accepted in the colleges.. commitments are not gifts or free passes. They are spots on a soccer team. I guess they did LEARN some useful skills to get into the top schools they are committing to.

The post was obviously written by someone who has a kid on VSA or VDA and has no IDEA what the commitment experience entails.

Some have good commitments, others don’t. And the same is true for the non-recruiter clubs. The fact that there is a small contingent here who continually strains to try to maintain some sort of perceived past hegemony over soccer in this area speaks louder than anything else.

We get it, you are trying to maintain perceptions. But the reality is passing you by and those VSA, VDA, Loudoun, etc... parents are just benefactors of the new paradigm in DC youth soccer that no small set of clubs hold the cards anymore.

Sorry that your cheese has been moved. Try to learn to adjust.

If you think that the top players will start flocking to VSA, which is a feeder club for VDA, or Loudoun which is a middling program despite having a huge player pool, you are in for a disappointment. On the other hand, VDA will probably benefit the most from receiving ECNL status because of its geographic location, but it has to prove that it can compete in the older age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

Those girls just bouncing balls off their heads have to actually be accepted in the colleges.. commitments are not gifts or free passes. They are spots on a soccer team. I guess they did LEARN some useful skills to get into the top schools they are committing to.

The post was obviously written by someone who has a kid on VSA or VDA and has no IDEA what the commitment experience entails.

Some have good commitments, others don’t. And the same is true for the non-recruiter clubs. The fact that there is a small contingent here who continually strains to try to maintain some sort of perceived past hegemony over soccer in this area speaks louder than anything else.

We get it, you are trying to maintain perceptions. But the reality is passing you by and those VSA, VDA, Loudoun, etc... parents are just benefactors of the new paradigm in DC youth soccer that no small set of clubs hold the cards anymore.

Sorry that your cheese has been moved. Try to learn to adjust.

If you think that the top players will start flocking to VSA, which is a feeder club for VDA, or Loudoun which is a middling program despite having a huge player pool, you are in for a disappointment. On the other hand, VDA will probably benefit the most from receiving ECNL status because of its geographic location, but it has to prove that it can compete in the older age groups.

VDA teams will age up and compete very well. Loudoun has a huge pool and will only get better. The days of higher dilution are here and the old emperor has no robes. That was the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

Posting takes about a minute or so. Not a big time commitment, and I can afford time outside my productive schedule to take a minute at night to post. Look, I like soccer. I am glad my kid plays, but some of the obsessive folks on here and their feeling of superiority due to their kid playing for certain teams or clubs is simply misguided. Just let the kids play and have fun and learn about competition, but please keep them and yourself grounded and humble and focused primarily on what will really make a difference in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCV = useless “narcissism”

While the rest of us live real, productive, meaningful lives, the DA crowd at FCV pursue obsession with a child’s sport that in the long run won’t make a difference in their adult lives. Enjoy it for the 4 years it lasts girls. It is too bad your parents don’t spend more time teaching you useful skills and knowledge. 5-6 days a week bouncing a ball off your head. Real productive.

The person living the productive, meaningful life takes their time to post on a message board about an activity they say won't make a difference in the kids lives. How about you let people enjoy and value what they want and you go and do your own thing? But i guess it wouldn't make you feel better about yourself if you didn't try to take over people down.

Those girls just bouncing balls off their heads have to actually be accepted in the colleges.. commitments are not gifts or free passes. They are spots on a soccer team. I guess they did LEARN some useful skills to get into the top schools they are committing to.

The post was obviously written by someone who has a kid on VSA or VDA and has no IDEA what the commitment experience entails.

Some have good commitments, others don’t. And the same is true for the non-recruiter clubs. The fact that there is a small contingent here who continually strains to try to maintain some sort of perceived past hegemony over soccer in this area speaks louder than anything else.

We get it, you are trying to maintain perceptions. But the reality is passing you by and those VSA, VDA, Loudoun, etc... parents are just benefactors of the new paradigm in DC youth soccer that no small set of clubs hold the cards anymore.

Sorry that your cheese has been moved. Try to learn to adjust.

If you think that the top players will start flocking to VSA, which is a feeder club for VDA, or Loudoun which is a middling program despite having a huge player pool, you are in for a disappointment. On the other hand, VDA will probably benefit the most from receiving ECNL status because of its geographic location, but it has to prove that it can compete in the older age groups.

VDA teams will age up and compete very well. Loudoun has a huge pool and will only get better. The days of higher dilution are here and the old emperor has no robes. That was the point.

Let me add a dose of reality for you. VDA teams U13-U19 are currently 9th, 1st, 8th, 11th, 8th, 11th. Aside from their U14 team, I don't see much quality there. Loudoun's teams are currently 4th, 8th, 6th, 8th, 10th, 10th. As these clubs demonstrate, having a huge pool of players does not automatically translate to success on the field at ECNL level.

[Anonymous]

PP here. I agree that there is talent at other clubs including non-ECNL/DA but I am just tired of people hating on FCV and McLean. FCV has a horrible issue with culture but that does not mean that the club does not produce high quality players. McLean is not successful because of recruiting. Players g there because the club has a track record of placing girls at to 25 college programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here. I agree that there is talent at other clubs including non-ECNL/DA but I am just tired of people hating on FCV and McLean. FCV has a horrible issue with culture but that does not mean that the club does not produce high quality players. McLean is not successful because of recruiting. Players g there because the club has a track record of placing girls at to 25 college programs.

I think the whole forum is tired of threads saying stop hating on fcv and McLean while fcv and McLean people dominate the board with tales about how great they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here. I agree that there is talent at other clubs including non-ECNL/DA but I am just tired of people hating on FCV and McLean. FCV has a horrible issue with culture but that does not mean that the club does not produce high quality players. McLean is not successful because of recruiting. Players g there because the club has a track record of placing girls at to 25 college programs.

If you’re great people will tell you and you won’t need to tell everyone that you are.