Academic experience at Mundo Verde in the 1st-3rd grade years

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

We know many families who want MV because of language immersion at a school with a good cohort of native Spanish speaking kids and families, and overall a higher performing group of kids. Won’t change a bit no matter how the non-MV families here attack the school, some families of which who are bitter because they see many leave for charters.

I think academically it's okay, but if you really want to prioritize this try iTS, Two Rivers, or move away.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

We know many families who want MV because of language immersion at a school with a good cohort of native Spanish speaking kids and families, and overall a higher performing group of kids. Won’t change a bit no matter how the non-MV families here attack the school, some families of which who are bitter because they see many leave for charters.

+100 or perhaps they are on the waitlist

Yep, I don’t doubt it. Hoping others will not take the spot. Pretty manipulative but when you are desperate for a spot, some will do anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

MV scores still aren't that great, especially for the demographics. If I really wanted Spanish I'd move IB for Bancroft or Oyster. Far better scores.

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Anonymous wrote:At the new campus I would be concerned about teacher quality. They have to find new Spanish-speaking teachers every year, and they can't move too many from P St without a negative impact there. MV already has a problem with teacher retention and Spanish speaking teachers have more labor market power. Also a lot of their teachers do not have MA, just a BA and not in teaching. So, I'm not a fan.

Where are you finding your data on teacher retention? According to the State Board of Education report on teacher attrition Mundo Verde does not have a problem with teacher retention. Three year averages for similar HRCS--
DCB-9%
Stokes-12%
LAMB--10%
TR--12%
ITS--21%
Mundo Verde--16%

Compared with all charter schools MV is actually doing well. DC charter schools in have trouble retaining teachers in general. I am a teacher in the suburbs and we have many former DC charter school teachers here because they want better benefits and a larger system of support.

This is SY 2017 data, before things got unpleasant enough that the teachers chose to unionize. OP, a charter teacher union is exceedingly rare in DC. Makes me wonder why they felt it was necessary. So I would look at 16% as a floor, a more recent stat might be worse.

I suspect ITS looks high because of their teaching fellows, who stay for one year by design. MV is the highest turnover among DCI feeders except Yu Ying (27%, wow).

More charters: Lee 14%. CMI 31% (ouch!).

I am not positive but I don’t think the fellows count in this data. Anyhow, MV has teaching fellows also.

The data likely include only teachers of record. Fellows are not the teacher of record for a given classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

MV scores still aren't that great, especially for the demographics. If I really wanted Spanish I'd move IB for Bancroft or Oyster. Far better scores.

Here’s news for you. Many families are not interested in moving. And we don’t care about demographics. We don’t care if the kids are black, white, Asian, rich or poor. We care about a large peer group being at or above grade level.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

MV scores still aren't that great, especially for the demographics. If I really wanted Spanish I'd move IB for Bancroft or Oyster. Far better scores.

Here’s news for you. Many families are not interested in moving. And we don’t care about demographics. We don’t care if the kids are black, white, Asian, rich or poor. We care about a large peer group being at or above grade level.

Ok, go ahead and pat yourself on the back for scores for high-income kids that are way lower than for similar kids elsewhere in the city.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

MV scores still aren't that great, especially for the demographics. If I really wanted Spanish I'd move IB for Bancroft or Oyster. Far better scores.

Many people who want Spanish can't afford to move IB for Bancroft or Oyster.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

MV scores still aren't that great, especially for the demographics. If I really wanted Spanish I'd move IB for Bancroft or Oyster. Far better scores.

Better hope your kid doesn’t have special needs then- oyster will kick you right out.

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MV parent--I would not say that there are no expectations for academics. The expectations are very clear and an on-the-ball child can get a good grounding in math and some aspects of writing. Other elements are balanced unevenly and the administration can be very defensive or plan for improvement that doesn't have results. It is a gamble.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

MV scores still aren't that great, especially for the demographics. If I really wanted Spanish I'd move IB for Bancroft or Oyster. Far better scores.

Here’s news for you. Many families are not interested in moving. And we don’t care about demographics. We don’t care if the kids are black, white, Asian, rich or poor. We care about a large peer group being at or above grade level.

Ok, go ahead and pat yourself on the back for scores for high-income kids that are way lower than for similar kids elsewhere in the city.

Mundo doesn’t get to kick out special needs kids like oyster.

Also id take lower test scores over having no self esteem after the military like scream discipline you find at oyster.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

MV scores still aren't that great, especially for the demographics. If I really wanted Spanish I'd move IB for Bancroft or Oyster. Far better scores.

Here’s news for you. Many families are not interested in moving. And we don’t care about demographics. We don’t care if the kids are black, white, Asian, rich or poor. We care about a large peer group being at or above grade level.

Ok, go ahead and pat yourself on the back for scores for high-income kids that are way lower than for similar kids elsewhere in the city.

Oh you mean the rich WOTP kids who don’t go to a Spanish language immersion school? Just like all the different schools you cherry pick to throw out there because you have an agenda or resentment against MV?

It’s actually sad really that you were unlucky in the lottery and can’t be happy for other families.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, don't make a decision for your family based on what you read on DCUM. This goes for any school. Only the very fervent supporters or detractors take time in this space. The other 99% of us are somewhere in between.

I don't know, I read a lot of in between posts here. But I agree you should probably give the in betweeners more weight and beware of the super negative or positive on any school. Usually there are both, unless something is seriously wrong at the school in which case you'll get a ton of negative (ahem, SSMA).

What you should do is use detailed feedback from those who clearly attend the school to then ask questions either of the school or of current parents directly.

+100. What's notable in this thread is nobody stepping up to validate MV academics.

My child doesn’t go to MVP but I can tell you it’s much better than our IB neighborhood school. The cohort is also much better performing. And keep in mind that many who post negative comments don’t say where their child goes to school and how it compares to MV.

Better than your IB is faint praise.

Don’t think so when there is 30+ percentage difference in competency. But hey you can stay at your IB school while many families play the lottery for better ones.

Sure but if you don't name the IB, people won't know that. Having better scores than Langley or Walker-Jones is not very impressive unless you say how much better.

Irrelevant when I just said how much better. That spread also is not uncommon looking at many of the IB non-Capitol Hill schools EOTP.

But hey nothing to see here with that spread and low turnover of families who leave MV compared to many of the neighborhood schools who bleed out families in the upper grades.

MV scores still aren't that great, especially for the demographics. If I really wanted Spanish I'd move IB for Bancroft or Oyster. Far better scores.

Here’s news for you. Many families are not interested in moving. And we don’t care about demographics. We don’t care if the kids are black, white, Asian, rich or poor. We care about a large peer group being at or above grade level.

Ok, go ahead and pat yourself on the back for scores for high-income kids that are way lower than for similar kids elsewhere in the city.

Mundo doesn’t get to kick out special needs kids like oyster.

Also id take lower test scores over having no self esteem after the military like scream discipline you find at oyster.

Keep on telling yourself that, I've seen it happen.