Rules on charging the goalie

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The keeper on my sons team is very aggressive coming out. He takes out an opposing player at least every other game. Other teams parents always yell and complain. The official usually just says play on or warns the other player not to run into the keeper. Ive seen some teams hesitate to make runs in the box afterwards. Our coach always praise the Keeper sayin "own your box".

A keeper cannot take out an opposing player. I've seen keepers get Red cards for it.

Absolutely wrong. A keeper has every right to slide into a charging field player with the ball in the box. As long its going for the ball and cleats down its totally legal. Ive seen many a striker helped off the field by a coach because he was "taken out" by the keeper.

And the next time a keeper comes out and low their head may be introduced to a field players knee. If a keeper purposely came to "take me out" I'd gladly take the red card in retaliation later.

Stay out of my box or maybe next time I defend a corner I may miss the ball and break your nose trying to punch it out. Now step off pretty boy punk.

Pickford is on the thread! Seriously, does anybody spend more time hectoring everybody on the field, especially his own teammates!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The keeper on my sons team is very aggressive coming out. He takes out an opposing player at least every other game. Other teams parents always yell and complain. The official usually just says play on or warns the other player not to run into the keeper. Ive seen some teams hesitate to make runs in the box afterwards. Our coach always praise the Keeper sayin "own your box".

A keeper cannot take out an opposing player. I've seen keepers get Red cards for it.

Absolutely wrong. A keeper has every right to slide into a charging field player with the ball in the box. As long its going for the ball and cleats down its totally legal. Ive seen many a striker helped off the field by a coach because he was "taken out" by the keeper.

And the next time a keeper comes out and low their head may be introduced to a field players knee. If a keeper purposely came to "take me out" I'd gladly take the red card in retaliation later.

Forget the red card. You would be hurt very badly by the keeper or team. You never played soccer obviously.

[SoccerRef]

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Anonymous wrote:The keeper on my sons team is very aggressive coming out. He takes out an opposing player at least every other game. Other teams parents always yell and complain. The official usually just says play on or warns the other player not to run into the keeper. Ive seen some teams hesitate to make runs in the box afterwards. Our coach always praise the Keeper sayin "own your box".

A keeper cannot take out an opposing player. I've seen keepers get Red cards for it.

Absolutely wrong. A keeper has every right to slide into a charging field player with the ball in the box. As long its going for the ball and cleats down its totally legal. Ive seen many a striker helped off the field by a coach because he was "taken out" by the keeper.

This is completely and totally wrong.
If the keeper slides in and makes contact with the ball, and the attacker falls over the keeper, there's no foul.
But if the keeper is going for the ball, misses, and takes out the attacker? 100% foul.
And also keep in mind, that just like any other player on the field, just because the keeper gets ball first doesn't mean he can take out the other player with impunity. You can get ball first, and still foul the player.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The keeper on my sons team is very aggressive coming out. He takes out an opposing player at least every other game. Other teams parents always yell and complain. The official usually just says play on or warns the other player not to run into the keeper. Ive seen some teams hesitate to make runs in the box afterwards. Our coach always praise the Keeper sayin "own your box".

A keeper cannot take out an opposing player. I've seen keepers get Red cards for it.

Absolutely wrong. A keeper has every right to slide into a charging field player with the ball in the box. As long its going for the ball and cleats down its totally legal. Ive seen many a striker helped off the field by a coach because he was "taken out" by the keeper.

This is completely and totally wrong.
If the keeper slides in and makes contact with the ball, and the attacker falls over the keeper, there's no foul.
But if the keeper is going for the ball, misses, and takes out the attacker? 100% foul.
And also keep in mind, that just like any other player on the field, just because the keeper gets ball first doesn't mean he can take out the other player with impunity. You can get ball first, and still foul the player.

I see it both ways and think its such a judgment call. Obviously the keeper can't go out with the intention to injury the attacker. If the attacker is dribbling in the box. I think its perfectly fine for the keeper once he or she make contact with the ball. Use full speed and force to follow thru the attacker. The keeper has an area marked on the field that gives him advantages in said area. He also by position has more of his body exposed for the attacker to foul. in the end its all in the referees discretion .

[Anonymous]

Rules should be adapted. GKs have no protection. My DD played in college and has the concussion history to prove it. They were all on flagrant fouls after she had possession for seconds. These were not accidental contact, but pissed off field players. Only half were carded. She was highly awarded and set records. You can't be a good GK and not get hurt. DD is done playing and still has back problems. You've got to go hard or you don't get the save.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rules should be adapted. GKs have no protection. My DD played in college and has the concussion history to prove it. They were all on flagrant fouls after she had possession for seconds. These were not accidental contact, but pissed off field players. Only half were carded. She was highly awarded and set records. You can't be a good GK and not get hurt. DD is done playing and still has back problems. You've got to go hard or you don't get the save.

No, GKs have protection in their box. You had bad refs, doesn’t mean the laws need to be changed.

[Anonymous]

The idea that getting to the ball first absolves a player of any foul being called is one of the biggest myths in soccer. Wreckless dangerous play is always a foul, even if you happen to get the ball first. I've seen two footed studs up in the air sliding (i.e. jumping tackles) that parents insist were legally simply because they got lucky and touched the ball in the process of playing Shaolin Soccer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rules should be adapted. GKs have no protection. My DD played in college and has the concussion history to prove it. They were all on flagrant fouls after she had possession for seconds. These were not accidental contact, but pissed off field players. Only half were carded. She was highly awarded and set records. You can't be a good GK and not get hurt. DD is done playing and still has back problems. You've got to go hard or you don't get the save.

No, GKs have protection in their box. You had bad refs, doesn’t mean the laws need to be changed.

The box offers no protection to the GK, only getting the ball is worth anything. GK is a tough position and they get banged up whether or not a foul is actually called.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The keeper on my sons team is very aggressive coming out. He takes out an opposing player at least every other game. Other teams parents always yell and complain. The official usually just says play on or warns the other player not to run into the keeper. Ive seen some teams hesitate to make runs in the box afterwards. Our coach always praise the Keeper sayin "own your box".

A keeper cannot take out an opposing player. I've seen keepers get Red cards for it.

Absolutely wrong. A keeper has every right to slide into a charging field player with the ball in the box. As long its going for the ball and cleats down its totally legal. Ive seen many a striker helped off the field by a coach because he was "taken out" by the keeper.

And the next time a keeper comes out and low their head may be introduced to a field players knee. If a keeper purposely came to "take me out" I'd gladly take the red card in retaliation later.

Forget the red card. You would be hurt very badly by the keeper or team. You never played soccer obviously.

If a player doesn't respect the opponent a plays recklessly with the potential to injure a player their position will not protect them from retaliation. So go ahead and take out an opposing player, low around their knees and ankles and see if a rule keeps an elbow from the back of your kids head on the next corner kick or a "missed" header that finds your kids head on another corner kick.

Playing within the rules and respecting the health of all the players will prolong your kids playing career ass well as others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rules should be adapted. GKs have no protection. My DD played in college and has the concussion history to prove it. They were all on flagrant fouls after she had possession for seconds. These were not accidental contact, but pissed off field players. Only half were carded. She was highly awarded and set records. You can't be a good GK and not get hurt. DD is done playing and still has back problems. You've got to go hard or you don't get the save.

No, GKs have protection in their box. You had bad refs, doesn’t mean the laws need to be changed.

The box offers no protection to the GK, only getting the ball is worth anything. GK is a tough position and they get banged up whether or not a foul is actually called.

Yes, they are protected more than other players in the box, it’s one of the unwritten rules of the sport. Due to the nature of the position, of course they’ll get banged up. Their job is literally to put their body on the line to keep the ball from going in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rules should be adapted. GKs have no protection. My DD played in college and has the concussion history to prove it. They were all on flagrant fouls after she had possession for seconds. These were not accidental contact, but pissed off field players. Only half were carded. She was highly awarded and set records. You can't be a good GK and not get hurt. DD is done playing and still has back problems. You've got to go hard or you don't get the save.

No, GKs have protection in their box. You had bad refs, doesn’t mean the laws need to be changed.

The box offers no protection to the GK, only getting the ball is worth anything. GK is a tough position and they get banged up whether or not a foul is actually called.

Yes, they are protected more than other players in the box, it’s one of the unwritten rules of the sport. Due to the nature of the position, of course they’ll get banged up. Their job is literally to put their body on the line to keep the ball from going in.

Being protected because of their supposed vulnerability does not translate into their right to be able to take similar liberties against an opponent. A dirty play is a dirty play no matter the position.

[Anonymous]

Time for a rule change. Too much gray area and too many collisions with the goalie. Eliminating collisions with the catcher hadn’t hurt the game of baseball at all.

[Anonymous]

Eliminate the GK position entirely. We need more scoring in soccer. Tell the goalies to play basketball. USA basketball is fading fast - see the fiba 2019 results.

[Anonymous]

But even if there is a law, players can still do it, it’s on the ref to enforce. Again, they’re protected enough now. You’re asking for something where forwards can’t attack a loose ball if the keeper fumbles it. That’s ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But even if there is a law, players can still do it, it’s on the ref to enforce. Again, they’re protected enough now. You’re asking for something where forwards can’t attack a loose ball if the keeper fumbles it. That’s ridiculous.

No even that, a change in a rule where a goalie can't be touched would almost mean a player can't go for a through pass if it ends up in the box.