Generation X parents of highschoolers, do teens party less now than we did?

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Anonymous wrote:My kids just entered college. When they were in high school I would check their phones regularly, texts, photos, everything. I used to joke with them that they weren't even doing half the crap we did in the 80s. I think there is some research though that backs it up as well.

However I would argue that these kids are more stressed and as a result have more mental health issues.

I'll also co-sign on the drinking in college - that seems definitely worse these days.

I don't think kids have more mental health issues. I do think we/schools coddle them into thinking it's OK to display mental health problems, and that there's a certain subculture in which some of them wallow in it know it's a way to get attention if they start talking about self-harm, etc.

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it's just okay to see help now .. you guys are crazy if you think kids are seeking attention.

See, someone who buys into that bullshit wouldn't throw around the word "crazy" so cavalierly.

Just wait until they spend an entire month on things like suicide prevention in high school. It's complete overkill and it's counterproductive. There's a fine line between awareness and fetishizing it, and I am afraid that a lot of the "awareness" activities cross it. Factor in entertainment (series like 13 Reasons Why and other movies that sort of glamorize mental illness) and social media with access to cesspools like Reddit, and, yes, it's hard to separate the legitimately mental ill from the attention seekers. Some of these kids just need to toughen up and suck it up and take some personal responsibility rather than be enabled by adults when they go looking for excuses for their poor behavior/performance, etc.

OMG Teens are not on Reddit. FFS... Okay not crazy... stupid/daft/ignorant/self righteous... pick your fav.

I am so glad people like you are not in charge of the world, schools, doctors offices... I wonder how people become so ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything has some sort of criminal repercussion to it now. I remember a cop caught me underage when I was a teen. He kicked me out and gave me a stern lecture. I didn't do it again. Now, I'm sure that same cop would have arrested me and I'd have it on my record.

Where I lived in the 80s, cops arrested kids who were obviously drunk.

Same where I lived. Didn't stop kids from getting drunk though. I remember many an evening where cops would bust a party and everyone would take off running.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the parents posting that their kids are too busy to drink and smoke pot are delusional. You have freshman and sophomores or you are completely clueless.

No, we aren't. I'm one of them, and my kids are at a tiny school, leaving the house at 6:30 and retuning after sports practice at 7, eating dinner with us, and then studying until lights out. The just aren't at the point yet where they are hanging out in random places unsupervised, even on weekends.

So they are freshman or sophomores and have not life on the weekends (or you go with them...worse).

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Anonymous wrote:My kids just entered college. When they were in high school I would check their phones regularly, texts, photos, everything. I used to joke with them that they weren't even doing half the crap we did in the 80s. I think there is some research though that backs it up as well.

However I would argue that these kids are more stressed and as a result have more mental health issues.

I'll also co-sign on the drinking in college - that seems definitely worse these days.

I don't think kids have more mental health issues. I do think we/schools coddle them into thinking it's OK to display mental health problems, and that there's a certain subculture in which some of them wallow in it know it's a way to get attention if they start talking about self-harm, etc.

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it's just okay to see help now .. you guys are crazy if you think kids are seeking attention.

See, someone who buys into that bullshit wouldn't throw around the word "crazy" so cavalierly.

Just wait until they spend an entire month on things like suicide prevention in high school. It's complete overkill and it's counterproductive. There's a fine line between awareness and fetishizing it, and I am afraid that a lot of the "awareness" activities cross it. Factor in entertainment (series like 13 Reasons Why and other movies that sort of glamorize mental illness) and social media with access to cesspools like Reddit, and, yes, it's hard to separate the legitimately mental ill from the attention seekers. Some of these kids just need to toughen up and suck it up and take some personal responsibility rather than be enabled by adults when they go looking for excuses for their poor behavior/performance, etc.

OMG Teens are not on Reddit. FFS... Okay not crazy... stupid/daft/ignorant/self righteous... pick your fav.

I am so glad people like you are not in charge of the world, schools, doctors offices... I wonder how people become so ignorant.

But they ARE, you dipshit. There are entire subreddits devoted to suicide ideation, how to do anorexia, etc etc. and teends DO hang out there.

And for the record, I AM in a position of authority, and I CAN tell the difference between a kid who is legitimately troubled and those who've just been conditioned by weak-ass adults who are afraid of upsetting them. You sound like the latter type. Can I suggest you buck up, learn to parent, and stop coddling so much? You're NOT doing them any favors.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids just entered college. When they were in high school I would check their phones regularly, texts, photos, everything. I used to joke with them that they weren't even doing half the crap we did in the 80s. I think there is some research though that backs it up as well.

However I would argue that these kids are more stressed and as a result have more mental health issues.

I'll also co-sign on the drinking in college - that seems definitely worse these days.

I don't think kids have more mental health issues. I do think we/schools coddle them into thinking it's OK to display mental health problems, and that there's a certain subculture in which some of them wallow in it know it's a way to get attention if they start talking about self-harm, etc.

+1000

-1000

it's just okay to see help now .. you guys are crazy if you think kids are seeking attention.

See, someone who buys into that bullshit wouldn't throw around the word "crazy" so cavalierly.

Just wait until they spend an entire month on things like suicide prevention in high school. It's complete overkill and it's counterproductive. There's a fine line between awareness and fetishizing it, and I am afraid that a lot of the "awareness" activities cross it. Factor in entertainment (series like 13 Reasons Why and other movies that sort of glamorize mental illness) and social media with access to cesspools like Reddit, and, yes, it's hard to separate the legitimately mental ill from the attention seekers. Some of these kids just need to toughen up and suck it up and take some personal responsibility rather than be enabled by adults when they go looking for excuses for their poor behavior/performance, etc.

I work with teens and this is absolutely true. It doesn't apply to all teens of course, but there is definitely a sizable subculture that seems to glamorize being depressed. There is a slight trendiness to it, at least in some quarters.

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Leading cause of death of GenX... alcohol, overdoses and suicide.

So yea... suck it up did not work.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids just entered college. When they were in high school I would check their phones regularly, texts, photos, everything. I used to joke with them that they weren't even doing half the crap we did in the 80s. I think there is some research though that backs it up as well.

However I would argue that these kids are more stressed and as a result have more mental health issues.

I'll also co-sign on the drinking in college - that seems definitely worse these days.

I don't think kids have more mental health issues. I do think we/schools coddle them into thinking it's OK to display mental health problems, and that there's a certain subculture in which some of them wallow in it know it's a way to get attention if they start talking about self-harm, etc.

+1000

-1000

it's just okay to see help now .. you guys are crazy if you think kids are seeking attention.

See, someone who buys into that bullshit wouldn't throw around the word "crazy" so cavalierly.

Just wait until they spend an entire month on things like suicide prevention in high school. It's complete overkill and it's counterproductive. There's a fine line between awareness and fetishizing it, and I am afraid that a lot of the "awareness" activities cross it. Factor in entertainment (series like 13 Reasons Why and other movies that sort of glamorize mental illness) and social media with access to cesspools like Reddit, and, yes, it's hard to separate the legitimately mental ill from the attention seekers. Some of these kids just need to toughen up and suck it up and take some personal responsibility rather than be enabled by adults when they go looking for excuses for their poor behavior/performance, etc.

I work with teens and this is absolutely true. It doesn't apply to all teens of course, but there is definitely a sizable subculture that seems to glamorize being depressed. There is a slight trendiness to it, at least in some quarters.

Well there are a ton of unqualified people working with teens.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids just entered college. When they were in high school I would check their phones regularly, texts, photos, everything. I used to joke with them that they weren't even doing half the crap we did in the 80s. I think there is some research though that backs it up as well.

However I would argue that these kids are more stressed and as a result have more mental health issues.

I'll also co-sign on the drinking in college - that seems definitely worse these days.

I don't think kids have more mental health issues. I do think we/schools coddle them into thinking it's OK to display mental health problems, and that there's a certain subculture in which some of them wallow in it know it's a way to get attention if they start talking about self-harm, etc.

+1000

-1000

it's just okay to see help now .. you guys are crazy if you think kids are seeking attention.

See, someone who buys into that bullshit wouldn't throw around the word "crazy" so cavalierly.

Just wait until they spend an entire month on things like suicide prevention in high school. It's complete overkill and it's counterproductive. There's a fine line between awareness and fetishizing it, and I am afraid that a lot of the "awareness" activities cross it. Factor in entertainment (series like 13 Reasons Why and other movies that sort of glamorize mental illness) and social media with access to cesspools like Reddit, and, yes, it's hard to separate the legitimately mental ill from the attention seekers. Some of these kids just need to toughen up and suck it up and take some personal responsibility rather than be enabled by adults when they go looking for excuses for their poor behavior/performance, etc.

OMG Teens are not on Reddit. FFS... Okay not crazy... stupid/daft/ignorant/self righteous... pick your fav.

I am so glad people like you are not in charge of the world, schools, doctors offices... I wonder how people become so ignorant.

No but they are on tumblr, which is all about teens blogging about their depression, unusualness, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the parents posting that their kids are too busy to drink and smoke pot are delusional. You have freshman and sophomores or you are completely clueless.

No, we aren't. I'm one of them, and my kids are at a tiny school, leaving the house at 6:30 and retuning after sports practice at 7, eating dinner with us, and then studying until lights out. The just aren't at the point yet where they are hanging out in random places unsupervised, even on weekends.

So they are freshman or sophomores and have not life on the weekends (or you go with them...worse).

That's the whole point of this thread. This is normal for Freshman and Sophomores now. Didn't used to be this way.

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I never drank or smoked, but I partied. Much more than my 18 and 20 year old did or still do. In eight grade I had a huge party at my house where we danced to "total eclipse of the heart for hours." First one of many to come. I was out at clubs(I am from Europe) till 3am. Got home on the last night bus, my parents never batted an eye. No curfew. I was an excellent student in a great high school. Went to sea at 19 for 2 weeks with friends and partied. Heck, if you showed up at a club or a disco before 11pm, you were lame.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids just entered college. When they were in high school I would check their phones regularly, texts, photos, everything. I used to joke with them that they weren't even doing half the crap we did in the 80s. I think there is some research though that backs it up as well.

However I would argue that these kids are more stressed and as a result have more mental health issues.

I'll also co-sign on the drinking in college - that seems definitely worse these days.

I don't think kids have more mental health issues. I do think we/schools coddle them into thinking it's OK to display mental health problems, and that there's a certain subculture in which some of them wallow in it know it's a way to get attention if they start talking about self-harm, etc.

+1000

-1000

it's just okay to see help now .. you guys are crazy if you think kids are seeking attention.

See, someone who buys into that bullshit wouldn't throw around the word "crazy" so cavalierly.

Just wait until they spend an entire month on things like suicide prevention in high school. It's complete overkill and it's counterproductive. There's a fine line between awareness and fetishizing it, and I am afraid that a lot of the "awareness" activities cross it. Factor in entertainment (series like 13 Reasons Why and other movies that sort of glamorize mental illness) and social media with access to cesspools like Reddit, and, yes, it's hard to separate the legitimately mental ill from the attention seekers. Some of these kids just need to toughen up and suck it up and take some personal responsibility rather than be enabled by adults when they go looking for excuses for their poor behavior/performance, etc.

OMG Teens are not on Reddit. FFS... Okay not crazy... stupid/daft/ignorant/self righteous... pick your fav.

I am so glad people like you are not in charge of the world, schools, doctors offices... I wonder how people become so ignorant.

No but they are on tumblr, which is all about teens blogging about their depression, unusualness, etc.

So which is it... teens are on tumblr all day or they are too busy.

FFS... the ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the parents posting that their kids are too busy to drink and smoke pot are delusional. You have freshman and sophomores or you are completely clueless.

No, we aren't. I'm one of them, and my kids are at a tiny school, leaving the house at 6:30 and retuning after sports practice at 7, eating dinner with us, and then studying until lights out. The just aren't at the point yet where they are hanging out in random places unsupervised, even on weekends.

So they are freshman or sophomores and have not life on the weekends (or you go with them...worse).

That's the whole point of this thread. This is normal for Freshman and Sophomores now. Didn't used to be this way.

No. it was normal for freshman and sophomores to not party that much in the 80's too. It's junior year and senior year that kids party a lot.

Then and now F/S maybe smoke pot and drink 1-2 times in the Fall, then Spring, then Summer...it's so easy to hide when it is so rare.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the parents posting that their kids are too busy to drink and smoke pot are delusional. You have freshman and sophomores or you are completely clueless.

Having you read the thread about teens dating in HS? Look at all the parents who are claiming that their 17 year olds have never dated. In the 80's a 17 year old who had never dated would have been quite unusual.
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Not in my group in high school in the 1980s, they wouldn't have been. Neither boys nor girls.

[Anonymous]

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See, someone who buys into that bullshit wouldn't throw around the word "crazy" so cavalierly.

Just wait until they spend an entire month on things like suicide prevention in high school. It's complete overkill and it's counterproductive. There's a fine line between awareness and fetishizing it, and I am afraid that a lot of the "awareness" activities cross it. Factor in entertainment (series like 13 Reasons Why and other movies that sort of glamorize mental illness) and social media with access to cesspools like Reddit, and, yes, it's hard to separate the legitimately mental ill from the attention seekers. Some of these kids just need to toughen up and suck it up and take some personal responsibility rather than be enabled by adults when they go looking for excuses for their poor behavior/performance, etc.

What a choice of words, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids just entered college. When they were in high school I would check their phones regularly, texts, photos, everything. I used to joke with them that they weren't even doing half the crap we did in the 80s. I think there is some research though that backs it up as well.

However I would argue that these kids are more stressed and as a result have more mental health issues.

I'll also co-sign on the drinking in college - that seems definitely worse these days.

I don't think kids have more mental health issues. I do think we/schools coddle them into thinking it's OK to display mental health problems, and that there's a certain subculture in which some of them wallow in it know it's a way to get attention if they start talking about self-harm, etc.

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Mom-Mom R (my husbands grandmother) said back in her day male depression in males age 15-25 did not exist. She said you would
see post partum depression in women after giving birth but she could not remember any example of male depression in the age 15-25 male
age group. Her theory was that males were working hard. They did farm work before school and then hard farm work after school.
After graduation they did hard physical labor on the farm from dawn to dusk. She said you would see a male feel sad if he had a break up
before marriage but the male would move past it and meet someone else. She felt there was something about working outside
in the sunshine and hard physical work that was protective against depression. This is just a hard working farm grandmother's
theory about depression in males.




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-1000

it's just okay to see help now .. you guys are crazy if you think kids are seeking attention.

See, someone who buys into that bullshit wouldn't throw around the word "crazy" so cavalierly.

Just wait until they spend an entire month on things like suicide prevention in high school. It's complete overkill and it's counterproductive. There's a fine line between awareness and fetishizing it, and I am afraid that a lot of the "awareness" activities cross it. Factor in entertainment (series like 13 Reasons Why and other movies that sort of glamorize mental illness) and social media with access to cesspools like Reddit, and, yes, it's hard to separate the legitimately mental ill from the attention seekers. Some of these kids just need to toughen up and suck it up and take some personal responsibility rather than be enabled by adults when they go looking for excuses for their poor behavior/performance, etc.

OMG Teens are not on Reddit. FFS... Okay not crazy... stupid/daft/ignorant/self righteous... pick your fav.

I am so glad people like you are not in charge of the world, schools, doctors offices... I wonder how people become so ignorant.

But they ARE, you dipshit. There are entire subreddits devoted to suicide ideation, how to do anorexia, etc etc. and teends DO hang out there.

And for the record, I AM in a position of authority, and I CAN tell the difference between a kid who is legitimately troubled and those who've just been conditioned by weak-ass adults who are afraid of upsetting them. You sound like the latter type. Can I suggest you buck up, learn to parent, and stop coddling so much? You're NOT doing them any favors.