Thoughts after Labor Day Tournaments?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16:54 — I’d love to hear more. Would you elaborate/share examples?

For our team, we usually do pretty well, but bombed this past weekend.

New coach, many new kids on the team, not used to wet lumpy grass fields, barely had any scrimmage practices/games before the tournament. Give us a few weeks, we'll be more cohesive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:54 — I’d love to hear more. Would you elaborate/share examples?

For our team, we usually do pretty well, but bombed this past weekend.

New coach, many new kids on the team, not used to wet lumpy grass fields, barely had any scrimmage practices/games before the tournament. Give us a few weeks, we'll be more cohesive.

That was everyone's issue this weekend so it had me wondering how some big clubs could have every team do so poorly. I think they will do better once they go back to the weak competition in their regular league games and tournaments where they play the same teams from their league. It's another thing entirely when they have to step out of that zone. I never thought the reputation was justified and it is a pattern that they start losing more in the late years precisely because they don't develop and many kids quit or move on. They are so quiet on message boards when they lose but so vocal about any win. It was crickets this go around and they had many, many teams in different tournaments. Not a word.

[Anonymous]

^Arlington?

[Anonymous]

Yes the CCL is a joke. Why do the big clubs stay in it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:54 — I’d love to hear more. Would you elaborate/share examples?

For our team, we usually do pretty well, but bombed this past weekend.

New coach, many new kids on the team, not used to wet lumpy grass fields, barely had any scrimmage practices/games before the tournament. Give us a few weeks, we'll be more cohesive.

Not necessarily a new coach, but most teams loose players to other teams and/or other sports and adding new players as well. So you and the teams you DC competed against have the same problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:54 — I’d love to hear more. Would you elaborate/share examples?

For our team, we usually do pretty well, but bombed this past weekend.

New coach, many new kids on the team, not used to wet lumpy grass fields, barely had any scrimmage practices/games before the tournament. Give us a few weeks, we'll be more cohesive.

Not necessarily a new coach, but most teams loose players to other teams and/or other sports and adding new players as well. So you and the teams you DC competed against have the same problem.

Yes. But when its all of your age groups--that's an entirely different story. I think all but the youngest (u10) groups got slaughtered. Arl always did good at the youngest ages because they have the biggest player pool of anywhere, but the pool advantage starts to wane as development/coaching is not as good elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:54 — I’d love to hear more. Would you elaborate/share examples?

For our team, we usually do pretty well, but bombed this past weekend.

New coach, many new kids on the team, not used to wet lumpy grass fields, barely had any scrimmage practices/games before the tournament. Give us a few weeks, we'll be more cohesive.

Not necessarily a new coach, but most teams loose players to other teams and/or other sports and adding new players as well. So you and the teams you DC competed against have the same problem.

Yes. But when its all of your age groups--that's an entirely different story. I think all but the youngest (u10) groups got slaughtered. Arl always did good at the youngest ages because they have the biggest player pool of anywhere, but the pool advantage starts to wane as development/coaching is not as good elsewhere.

Meaning the other teams did have the same problems---but didn't lose in every single age group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, lol. I'm not even a Loudoun parent.

Just enjoyed the competition. BTW to the hater of just saying #1, last time I checked the point of a game is to try to win.

Guessing it's a FCV or Great Falls parent who is a little butt hurt about the outcome!

I'm an FCV parent. We were in NC. Not anywhere near Loudoun. Nor do I care about the outcome of a pre-season tournament (though DDs team did fine.)

What's the difference between a pre-season and post-season tournament? Do kids/clubs/ or should I say parents take post-season tournaments more seriously?

Yes. They should take the results less seriously to the extent any results should matter. Practice just began for many kids, new players join teams, some kids are out for holiday weekend.

State Cup games start this Saturday. Should they not be taken seriously because your kid just started practicing, etc. ? Why do people make these sorry a** excuses?

Replying here. I am not making excuses for anybody. We don’t play these preseason or early tournaments. But if you think these are not relevant factors, you have no experience worth sharing with this group, and certainly no credibility. Good luck with State Cup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:54 — I’d love to hear more. Would you elaborate/share examples?

For our team, we usually do pretty well, but bombed this past weekend.

New coach, many new kids on the team, not used to wet lumpy grass fields, barely had any scrimmage practices/games before the tournament. Give us a few weeks, we'll be more cohesive.

That was everyone's issue this weekend so it had me wondering how some big clubs could have every team do so poorly. I think they will do better once they go back to the weak competition in their regular league games and tournaments where they play the same teams from their league. It's another thing entirely when they have to step out of that zone. I never thought the reputation was justified and it is a pattern that they start losing more in the late years precisely because they don't develop and many kids quit or move on. They are so quiet on message boards when they lose but so vocal about any win. It was crickets this go around and they had many, many teams in different tournaments. Not a word.

Well.... if we are talking about Arlington... I will say their teams are rarely ready to start the season strong IMO. They don't even start practicing semi-regularly (minus lots of the usual august storms) until August. The club just does not seem committed to getting the teams ready to go when the season starts. Which i guess is fine, but it often makes for a bumpy start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:54 — I’d love to hear more. Would you elaborate/share examples?

For our team, we usually do pretty well, but bombed this past weekend.

New coach, many new kids on the team, not used to wet lumpy grass fields, barely had any scrimmage practices/games before the tournament. Give us a few weeks, we'll be more cohesive.

That was everyone's issue this weekend so it had me wondering how some big clubs could have every team do so poorly. I think they will do better once they go back to the weak competition in their regular league games and tournaments where they play the same teams from their league. It's another thing entirely when they have to step out of that zone. I never thought the reputation was justified and it is a pattern that they start losing more in the late years precisely because they don't develop and many kids quit or move on. They are so quiet on message boards when they lose but so vocal about any win. It was crickets this go around and they had many, many teams in different tournaments. Not a word.

Well.... if we are talking about Arlington... I will say their teams are rarely ready to start the season strong IMO. They don't even start practicing semi-regularly (minus lots of the usual august storms) until August. The club just does not seem committed to getting the teams ready to go when the season starts. Which i guess is fine, but it often makes for a bumpy start.

I think they play all super y and practice all summer with their coach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:54 — I’d love to hear more. Would you elaborate/share examples?

For our team, we usually do pretty well, but bombed this past weekend.

New coach, many new kids on the team, not used to wet lumpy grass fields, barely had any scrimmage practices/games before the tournament. Give us a few weeks, we'll be more cohesive.

That was everyone's issue this weekend so it had me wondering how some big clubs could have every team do so poorly. I think they will do better once they go back to the weak competition in their regular league games and tournaments where they play the same teams from their league. It's another thing entirely when they have to step out of that zone. I never thought the reputation was justified and it is a pattern that they start losing more in the late years precisely because they don't develop and many kids quit or move on. They are so quiet on message boards when they lose but so vocal about any win. It was crickets this go around and they had many, many teams in different tournaments. Not a word.

Well.... if we are talking about Arlington... I will say their teams are rarely ready to start the season strong IMO. They don't even start practicing semi-regularly (minus lots of the usual august storms) until August. The club just does not seem committed to getting the teams ready to go when the season starts. Which i guess is fine, but it often makes for a bumpy start.

I think they play all super y and practice all summer with their coach.

maybe true at some age groups, but certainly not all age groups by a long shot.