Elrich is the leftist Trump

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is it about DCUM that obsessively hates Elrich so much?

He won. The primary (which I know was a virtual tie), and the general (by a lot). And he won his Council race three terms before that.

Clearly, a great amount of people like him. What is it about the DCUM demographic that despises him?

Well, I work with him, so there’s that.

What's it like working with him? Is he as bad as they say?

I don’t know what they say. He’s disorganized. He’s not strategic. He needs to flip Madaleno and Klein’s positions. That might calm things down a bit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

That tells us more about you than about him.

Blair had little knowledge of, and no experience with, politics/governing. I can't think of any other field of human endeavor where people think that lack of knowledge and experience are positive attributes that qualify you for the job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

That tells us more about you than about him.

Blair had little knowledge of, and no experience with, politics/governing. I can't think of any other field of human endeavor where people think that lack of knowledge and experience are positive attributes that qualify you for the job.

And yet the person voted in is competent?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

That tells us more about you than about him.

Blair had little knowledge of, and no experience with, politics/governing. I can't think of any other field of human endeavor where people think that lack of knowledge and experience are positive attributes that qualify you for the job.

And yet the person voted in is competent?

That's your reasoning? Somebody who did have knowledge and experience with politics/governing is not particularly competent, therefore we need someone who doesn't have any knowledge or experience?

That's like saying that my tall co-worker is not very good at basketball, so we should get someone who is short.

Knowledge and experience are necessary but not sufficient for being a good county executive, just like being tall is necessary but not sufficient for being a good basketball player.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

That tells us more about you than about him.

Blair had little knowledge of, and no experience with, politics/governing. I can't think of any other field of human endeavor where people think that lack of knowledge and experience are positive attributes that qualify you for the job.

And yet the person voted in is competent?

That's your reasoning? Somebody who did have knowledge and experience with politics/governing is not particularly competent, therefore we need someone who doesn't have any knowledge or experience?

That's like saying that my tall co-worker is not very good at basketball, so we should get someone who is short.

Knowledge and experience are necessary but not sufficient for being a good county executive, just like being tall is necessary but not sufficient for being a good basketball player.

David Blair is no dummy. He is a socially moderate business man who founded and ran a healthcare company. The Washington Post endorsed him so clearly I'm not the lone person who thought he was someone needed for that position. Sometimes you need to think outside the box to see real change.. What we are seeing happening under Elrich shouldn't be a shock. We knew how he was before he was voted in but yet people still voted for him.

[Anonymous]

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David Blair is no dummy. He is a socially moderate business man who founded and ran a healthcare company. The Washington Post endorsed him so clearly I'm not the lone person who thought he was someone needed for that position. Sometimes you need to think outside the box to see real change.. What we are seeing happening under Elrich shouldn't be a shock. We knew how he was before he was voted in but yet people still voted for him.

Nobody said that he was a dummy. He still wasn't qualified.

This is how the Washington Post decides on their endorsements in Montgomery County:

1. The public-employee unions support Candidate X.
2. Candidate Y is Candidate X's opponent who is most likely to win.
3. We endorse Candidate Y.

In the county executive race, Candidate X was Elrich. And Candidate Y was Blair in the primary and Floreen in the general election.

Yes, people knew what Elrich is like when they voted for him. In fact, plenty of people *liked* that Elrich is like that (not me, but I am only 1 vote). Whereas Blair spent a whole heck of a lot of money and still couldn't persuade enough people to vote for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

That tells us more about you than about him.

Blair had little knowledge of, and no experience with, politics/governing. I can't think of any other field of human endeavor where people think that lack of knowledge and experience are positive attributes that qualify you for the job.

And yet the person voted in is competent?

That's your reasoning? Somebody who did have knowledge and experience with politics/governing is not particularly competent, therefore we need someone who doesn't have any knowledge or experience?

That's like saying that my tall co-worker is not very good at basketball, so we should get someone who is short.

Knowledge and experience are necessary but not sufficient for being a good county executive, just like being tall is necessary but not sufficient for being a good basketball player.

David Blair is no dummy. He is a socially moderate business man who founded and ran a healthcare company. The Washington Post endorsed him so clearly I'm not the lone person who thought he was someone needed for that position. Sometimes you need to think outside the box to see real change.. What we are seeing happening under Elrich shouldn't be a shock. We knew how he was before he was voted in but yet people still voted for him.

The Post hates Marc Elrich. The Blair endorsement.....both of them.....reflect that, and that alone.

[Anonymous]

Elrich posted on his Facebook page....”there is no need for a union. Management will look out for my best interests,” said no sane person ever.


Doesn’t he realize he IS management now? Is he saying he’s going to screw over all his employees too? Or is he the exception? And if he will be fair to his employees, is he arrogant enough to think he’s the only management who’s will be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Elrich posted on his Facebook page....”there is no need for a union. Management will look out for my best interests,” said no sane person ever.

Doesn’t he realize he IS management now? Is he saying he’s going to screw over all his employees too? Or is he the exception? And if he will be fair to his employees, is he arrogant enough to think he’s the only management who’s will be?

If this thread title were "Elrich is like Bernie in many ways" I would agree.

Or if it were "I don't like Elrich as county executive because..." I would have things to put on the list.

But "Elrich is the leftist Trump"? Nuh uh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

Blair lost to Elrich in the primary, by only 77 votes.

The unions all got behind Elrich (as usual) and got the voter turnout among their members.

[Anonymous]

Here's some examples from just last week:

Elrich's nominee for police chief is someone who was fired from her last job due to management issues, and doesn't even meet the county's own qualifications for the job as listed in the job ad (running a department of at least 500 officers):
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/police-fire/elrich-to-officially-name-chapman-to-be-next-police-chief/

Elrich will announce an executive order on Monday instrutcions County agencies not to ask immigration status:
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/government/elrich-to-announce-countywide-executive-order-addressing-immigration-raids/

But.. what county agency currently asks this? He doesn't state that. I know the police and schools don't ask it, so who's actually asking it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

Blair lost to Elrich in the primary, by only 77 votes.

The unions all got behind Elrich (as usual) and got the voter turnout among their members.

In short:

1. Blair lost because he didn't get the most votes.
2. People who support candidates who lost, often complain that the supporters of the winning candidate unfairly out-organized and/or out-spent them. But since Blair way out-spent everyone else, Blair supporters can't complain about that, so out-organized is what they've got left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If republicans in MoCo actually ran viable business candidates who were socially moderate, they might actually drive the elections to the center. But no, they have to run crazies.

Blair was it. I don't understand why not enough people supported him. It seemed like everyone I know from MoCo definitely did. I'm curious who didn't like him. The thing is, the person we are looking for is NOT in the council nor anyone else already involved in MoCo politics. We needed someone from the outside.

Blair lost to Elrich in the primary, by only 77 votes.

The unions all got behind Elrich (as usual) and got the voter turnout among their members.

In short:

1. Blair lost because he didn't get the most votes.
2. People who support candidates who lost, often complain that the supporters of the winning candidate unfairly out-organized and/or out-spent them. But since Blair way out-spent everyone else, Blair supporters can't complain about that, so out-organized is what they've got left.

I'm not a Blair supporter nor an Elrich supporter. I couldn't choose any of them in the primary since I'm an independent like 1/3 of registered MoCo voters.

Elrich had a good strategy. There were 6 people running, so that split the moderate vote among 3-4 candidates. Then Elrich just had to court a single nice group (unions) while the moderate votes got spread across a couple candidates.

I don't think the outcome of the primary really reflected what the average MoCo resident wants -- just the moderate votes were spread across a few candidates. Maybe ranked-choice voting would address situations like this in the future.

I know you'll probably say in the general electcion, which Elrich won overwhelmingly, that proved his mandate. But in MoCo, whoever has a (D) next to their name in the general will win regarldess. Could've been Mickey Mouse on the ballot.

[Anonymous]

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I'm not a Blair supporter nor an Elrich supporter. I couldn't choose any of them in the primary since I'm an independent like 1/3 of registered MoCo voters.

Elrich had a good strategy. There were 6 people running, so that split the moderate vote among 3-4 candidates. Then Elrich just had to court a single nice group (unions) while the moderate votes got spread across a couple candidates.

I don't think the outcome of the primary really reflected what the average MoCo resident wants -- just the moderate votes were spread across a few candidates. Maybe ranked-choice voting would address situations like this in the future.

I know you'll probably say in the general electcion, which Elrich won overwhelmingly, that proved his mandate. But in MoCo, whoever has a (D) next to their name in the general will win regarldess. Could've been Mickey Mouse on the ballot.

If whoever wins the Democratic primary wins the general election, and you want to have a voice, then register as a Democrat. Or, if it's more important to you to register as an independent than to have a voice, then don't complain about the outcome of the Democratic primary.

The fact is that Elrich won the general election, by a lot, against a non-Republican opponent. Was that a mandate for Elrich over Floreen or Ficker? It sure was.