Virginia State Senator says it’s those who are naive and unprepared that get raped

[Anonymous]

She's right? Ever talked with a rape victim? They all say "I can't believe I trusted him!"

That's naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She's right? Ever talked with a rape victim? They all say "I can't believe I trusted him!"

That's naive.

They all say that huh?
Even the ones snatched up by surprise and assaulted by some stranger say that?
You full of shit and so is the state senator stop blaming victims of violence for the sick twisted impulses of their assailants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's right? Ever talked with a rape victim? They all say "I can't believe I trusted him!"

That's naive.

They all say that huh?
Even the ones snatched up by surprise and assaulted by some stranger say that?
You full of shit and so is the state senator stop blaming victims of violence for the sick twisted impulses of their assailants.

Stranger rapes are rare.

My DD wanted to run at night to avoid the heat. I told her no way. My husband actually thought about it. When I showed them a very recent report (like a day later) of a woman snatched off the same trail at night, both called it 'anecdotal'.

I love my DD and would comfort and empathize with her if something happened but it's also very naive to think that running trails at night is safe for woman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She's right

Just stop it. If you have half a brain, you know that bad things can happen to the most prepared of us all. A couple of years ago, a young man was sexually assaulted in or near the Bethesda metro. He was just walking about, minding his own business. Is he at fault?

Idiot.

Looking past your name calling and obvious lack of self control.... no one said that on rare occasions, even those with good situational awareness and judgement still aren’t victims. But those are very, very rare incidents indeed, and are usually almost always committed by someone known to the victim, who was able to slip inside their virtual security perimeter, either through coercion, drugs, or some other means.

But those exceptions don’t make the rule. And the rule is that most victims of sexual assault were somehow compromised in terms of situational awareness or were otherwise incapacitated in some other way (alcohol, drugs, etc). Very few assault victims were physically overpowered by a random stranger and dragged into an alley. Most victims knew their attacker, and most victims in some way or another, had their guard down.

Just because you don’t like hearing this doesn’t make it untrue.

This is true. I have avoided attacks through situational awareness. Was twice followed and I didn't lead them home either time. If I wasn't on my guard, I never would have noticed that I was being followed in the first place.

[Anonymous]

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I see these “your attacker will just take your gun and kill you with it” things all the time. But you never hear of it happening, outside of very, very rare occasions. It all seems to be very anecdotal, not supported by data. But instances of women who’ve shot assailants in self-defense are well-documented. There IS data to support that.

And yes, if I find myself in a “tough” situation, as you call it, where my options are either to be sexually assaulted and/or murdered, OR to shoot my would-be attacker, possibly killing them, then that’s an easy choice. I’m going to shoot them. And I’m going to continue shooting them, over and over, until they stop being a threat. If that means they die, then so be it. It won’t trouble me in the least. Perhaps they should’ve considered that outcome before they decided to attack me.

But I’m not going to feel guilty about saving my own life. My family needs me, and I don’t want to die. So if the choice is me, or a man who chose to try and victimize me, then I’m choosing “me”.

1. Across states, more guns = more female violent deaths

We analyzed the relationship between firearm availability and unintentional gun death, homicide and suicide for women across the 50 states over a ten-year period. Women in states with many guns have elevated rates of unintentional gun deaths, suicides and homicides, particularly firearm suicides and firearm homicides.

Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah; Hemenway, David. Firearm availability and unintentional firearm deaths, suicide, and homicide among women. Journal of Urban Health. 2002; 79:26-38.

2. Across high-income countries, more guns = more female homicide deaths

We analyzed the relationship between gun availability and homicides of women with data from 25 high-income countries. Across developed nations, where gun are more available, there are more homicides of women. The United States has the most firearms and U.S. women are far more likely to be homicide victims than women in other developed countries.

Hemenway, David; Shinoda-Tagawa, Tomoko; Miller, Matthew. Firearm availability and female homicide victimization rates across 25 populous high-income countries. Journal of the American Medical Women’s Association. 2002; 57:100-04

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/misperceptions/

Except I’m the one with the gun, in my case, rather than the defenseless victim without a prayer. I’m not saying I’m invincible, but I will say that I’m going to fare better against an attacker than another woman who isn’t armed. That’s my choice. You believe in choice, don’t you? My choice is to give myself a fighting chance.

No one is suggesting banning handguns, so "choice here is a red herring".

The point is that from the policy POV, more guns does not mean more safety.

Note well, some people suffer from clinical depression and CANNOT safely keep a gun. There has to be a better way to counter crime.

If you have to generalize, then you are not getting PP's point. On an individual level, each person should have the choice as to how to defend one's self.

[Anonymous]

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No one asks to be brutally violated, but I said on another thread that I see too many parents telling their kids the “all people are good people” sentiment.

Time to change that. Tell your kids there ARE evil people who WILL hurt, rape or even KILL you if they get the opportunity.
So BEWARE. Always.

How many of you have told your kids that??

Anyone?

I tell my kids that. It kinda pissed off a teacher when he put a hand on my son's shoulder and my son said "I don't trust you like that" "don't touch me, please"

But I live in MD so we are a little more forward thinking than VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She's right? Ever talked with a rape victim? They all say "I can't believe I trusted him!"

That's naive.

But him is usually and neighbor, a teacher, a coach, a priest, an uncle, a friend, a father, a doctor

So ... yea, people do usually trust them.

You blame the gymnasts?
You blame children that are raped for trusting their dad?
You blame students who trusted a teacher?
You blame boys who trusted a priest?

[Anonymous]

Okay. Say there is a rapist looking to rape a woman in the next 5 minutes. His choices are hungover scantily clad chick with earbuds in a crime laden neighborhood, or a woman jogging in a well-maintained neighborhood who waves to friends as she goes by.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay. Say there is a rapist looking to rape a woman in the next 5 minutes. His choices are hungover scantily clad chick with earbuds in a crime laden neighborhood, or a woman jogging in a well-maintained neighborhood who waves to friends as she goes by.

Who ever is closer to him at that exact moment.