RFP for county-wide boundary analysis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the county said how much they are going to pay for this to get done. They keep saying they may not do anything about it once it is done. So I am very curious how much of our school budget is going towards this.

No, this is the Request For Proposals. Companies will respond with bids.

How F'ing slow is this process going to be. Good Lord. They mentioned doing this for year and last year said for sure they are doing it. They will get bids for a year. They will then get paid millions to "work" for a year, and then another year for the county to figure IF they want to do anything with it. Then another year for board and council/pubic fights, and then another year to implement with one more year of rising 5th, 8th, and 12th graders getting to stay in their school. By then all the schools demographics and over/undercrowding will have changed and it will all start all over again.

F'ing MCPS. A total waste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the county said how much they are going to pay for this to get done. They keep saying they may not do anything about it once it is done. So I am very curious how much of our school budget is going towards this.

No, this is the Request For Proposals. Companies will respond with bids.

How F'ing slow is this process going to be. Good Lord. They mentioned doing this for year and last year said for sure they are doing it. They will get bids for a year. They will then get paid millions to "work" for a year, and then another year for the county to figure IF they want to do anything with it. Then another year for board and council/pubic fights, and then another year to implement with one more year of rising 5th, 8th, and 12th graders getting to stay in their school. By then all the schools demographics and over/undercrowding will have changed and it will all start all over again.

F'ing MCPS. A total waste.

Does your kid get out before this mess begins?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This needs to stop until MoCo gets back on its economic feet. Doing anything that spooks away potential buyers and makes Montgomery County even less attractive is just suicide right now. Doing a study and then being cagey that they may or may not do anything is even worse for the real estate market and property tax revenue stream.

MCPS doesn't care about your property values. Even if the prices of homes go down in MoCo they will ask for more money from County or state.

Nor should they. It's Montgomery County Public Schools, not Montgomery County Property Value Maintenance Service.

The County Council should care.

the latest - $2.6 billion allocation from county is above school board’s funding request

Anticipating additional state funding, the Montgomery County Council on Monday added $16 million to the amount of money requested by the county’s school system for its 2020 budget.

School system starts sinking.
People lose money on their homes.
The county doesn't attract people with money to raise the tax base, leaving less money to fund the school system.

You must think the schools function in a bubble. lol

OK, but the County Council doesn't make school boundary decisions. This is how much authority the County Council has over school boundary decisions: none. Zero, zip, nada, none, zilch. None.

Also, every time somebody says, "But my property values!", I infer that they own their own residence, live in Bethesda or Potomac, and paid the "W" premium. And yeah, your property values might decrease, depending on how much extra people were willing to pay for being zoned for segregated schools. But property values in other areas will increase.To say nothing of the fact that 1/3 of households in Montgomery County rent.

[Anonymous]

MOCO white flight is real. Leaving for NoVa and HoCo.

Incoming illegal immigrants #2 place in the entire country to go to is MOCO - 2nd after LA.

The shift is real and it is happening very quick. Get out while you can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has the county said how much they are going to pay for this to get done. They keep saying they may not do anything about it once it is done. So I am very curious how much of our school budget is going towards this.

No, this is the Request For Proposals. Companies will respond with bids.

How F'ing slow is this process going to be. Good Lord. They mentioned doing this for year and last year said for sure they are doing it. They will get bids for a year. They will then get paid millions to "work" for a year, and then another year for the county to figure IF they want to do anything with it. Then another year for board and council/pubic fights, and then another year to implement with one more year of rising 5th, 8th, and 12th graders getting to stay in their school. By then all the schools demographics and over/undercrowding will have changed and it will all start all over again.

F'ing MCPS. A total waste.

Proposals due July 15, 2019.

Offeror must provide a proposed timeline and work plan including the following elements:
-Data analysis
-Benchmarking with other jurisdictions
-Public input
-Interim status report to the Superintendent and Board no later than February 15, 2020
-Presentation of final report no later than June 1, 2020

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MOCO white flight is real. Leaving for NoVa and HoCo.

Incoming illegal immigrants #2 place in the entire country to go to is MOCO - 2nd after LA.

The shift is real and it is happening very quick. Get out while you can.

Data, please.

Stuff people say on Fox News doesn't count as data.

[Anonymous]

MCPS doesn't care about your property values. Even if the prices of homes go down in MoCo they will ask for more money from County or state.

Yeah this doesn't work in Montgomery County. There is no more money at the county or state level. Blow up the property values and you blow up your own budget.

Montgomery County is a residential community running in the red during a boom economy. Doing anything to reduce the already declining revenue is a suicide move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This needs to stop until MoCo gets back on its economic feet. Doing anything that spooks away potential buyers and makes Montgomery County even less attractive is just suicide right now. Doing a study and then being cagey that they may or may not do anything is even worse for the real estate market and property tax revenue stream.

MCPS doesn't care about your property values. Even if the prices of homes go down in MoCo they will ask for more money from County or state.

Nor should they. It's Montgomery County Public Schools, not Montgomery County Property Value Maintenance Service.

The County Council should care.

the latest - $2.6 billion allocation from county is above school board’s funding request

Anticipating additional state funding, the Montgomery County Council on Monday added $16 million to the amount of money requested by the county’s school system for its 2020 budget.

School system starts sinking.
People lose money on their homes.
The county doesn't attract people with money to raise the tax base, leaving less money to fund the school system.

You must think the schools function in a bubble. lol

OK, but the County Council doesn't make school boundary decisions. This is how much authority the County Council has over school boundary decisions: none. Zero, zip, nada, none, zilch. None.

Also, every time somebody says, "But my property values!", I infer that they own their own residence, live in Bethesda or Potomac, and paid the "W" premium. And yeah, your property values might decrease, depending on how much extra people were willing to pay for being zoned for segregated schools. But property values in other areas will increase.To say nothing of the fact that 1/3 of households in Montgomery County rent.

I infer that you’re happy to gamble with other people’s lives, schools and home equity on the off chance that you’ll end up a beneficiary of this exercise. I think it’s a giant crap shoot. MoCo isn’t so essential to the region that people faced with an unattractive option in MCPS can’t and won’t look elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

MCPS doesn't care about your property values. Even if the prices of homes go down in MoCo they will ask for more money from County or state.

Yeah this doesn't work in Montgomery County. There is no more money at the county or state level. Blow up the property values and you blow up your own budget.

Montgomery County is a residential community running in the red during a boom economy. Doing anything to reduce the already declining revenue is a suicide move.

Hence the, we may not use it.

Who can they pay off to say all is well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MOCO white flight is real. Leaving for NoVa and HoCo.

Incoming illegal immigrants #2 place in the entire country to go to is MOCO - 2nd after LA.

The shift is real and it is happening very quick. Get out while you can.

Did you know that HoCo and a couple of the NoVa school districts are going through boundary analysis/change keeping "diversity" in mind? Good luck to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I infer that you’re happy to gamble with other people’s lives, schools and home equity on the off chance that you’ll end up a beneficiary of this exercise. I think it’s a giant crap shoot. MoCo isn’t so essential to the region that people faced with an unattractive option in MCPS can’t and won’t look elsewhere.

Nope, I'm a homeowner in Montgomery County with 2 kids in MCPS. This applies just as much to me as to you (depending on you). i just don't follow the logic that MCPS must maintain socially-engineered school boundaries for the benefit of some people's property values.

[Anonymous]

I infer that you’re happy to gamble with other people’s lives, schools and home equity on the off chance that you’ll end up a beneficiary of this exercise. I think it’s a giant crap shoot. MoCo isn’t so essential to the region that people faced with an unattractive option in MCPS can’t and won’t look elsewhere.

I agree with this. The DCC zealots that all think they will benefit from taking down the Bethesda, Potomac or Rockville schools will be in for a big surprise. Dropping the property values and pushing the higher earners out of the county is not going to make Silver Spring suddenly attractive. Lessor areas only do well when the more desirable ones become too expensive so people are forced into the next level down. When the top falls, the bottom falls faster. As individuals, they won't benefit in the end. They will enjoy much higher taxes to make up for the even larger shortfall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I infer that you’re happy to gamble with other people’s lives, schools and home equity on the off chance that you’ll end up a beneficiary of this exercise. I think it’s a giant crap shoot. MoCo isn’t so essential to the region that people faced with an unattractive option in MCPS can’t and won’t look elsewhere.

I agree with this. The DCC zealots that all think they will benefit from taking down the Bethesda, Potomac or Rockville schools will be in for a big surprise. Dropping the property values and pushing the higher earners out of the county is not going to make Silver Spring suddenly attractive. Lessor areas only do well when the more desirable ones become too expensive so people are forced into the next level down. When the top falls, the bottom falls faster. As individuals, they won't benefit in the end. They will enjoy much higher taxes to make up for the even larger shortfall.

That you think this involves a "takedown" of these schools really says a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MOCO white flight is real. Leaving for NoVa and HoCo.

Incoming illegal immigrants #2 place in the entire country to go to is MOCO - 2nd after LA.

The shift is real and it is happening very quick. Get out while you can.

Did you know that HoCo and a couple of the NoVa school districts are going through boundary analysis/change keeping "diversity" in mind? Good luck to you.

Their diversity isn’t poor illegal aliens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MOCO white flight is real. Leaving for NoVa and HoCo.

Incoming illegal immigrants #2 place in the entire country to go to is MOCO - 2nd after LA.

The shift is real and it is happening very quick. Get out while you can.

Did you know that HoCo and a couple of the NoVa school districts are going through boundary analysis/change keeping "diversity" in mind? Good luck to you.

Their diversity isn’t poor illegal aliens.

You don't think FFX has poor illegal aliens? um.. ok. I think you need to take a yonder over to the FFX/va school forum for a bit.