proof of residency question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I understand correctly once my child is in a school we can move elsewhere within DC and remain at that school. If so what is the minimum amount of time I need to be domiciled in boundary before I move out of boundary?

This is incorrect. You must demonstrate your residence qualifications every school year.

Residency yes, but they are not kicking out people who move to an OB DC address. Once you are in the school you may stay until the terminal grade of the school. That being said, I don't know that there is an answer to the actual question of how long. Maybe they expect to see a mortgage statement or 12 month lease? I'm not sure I've seen anywhere a lease length requirement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you're here asking if it's OK to use your mom's address for a school, I'd wager that you don't have the moxie to pull this off. In these situations, my advice would to be pay your DC taxes where you like, as long as a family member owns the house and it's not rented out. Nobody's business but yours where you sleep. Collect a stack of residency docs in case you're investigation for residency fraud, and don't advertise where your residency situation at the school you use. If you get investigated, switch houses with your mom til things blow over. If you need your choice validated by non family members, you're not cut out for this shades-of-gray approach to residency. The holier than though moralists on these threads are blowhards who deserve to be ignored.

I respect you for at least detailing how this is fraudulent. What annoys me is when people claim it isn't.

Fradulent, whatever. We use a property we jointly own w/grandparents as our IB address. We renovated the house extensively, mainly through sweat equity and love the place. Kids stay there often. We tune out the small number of school busybodies whisper about us. DCPS investigated us and cleared us years back. If you want to use a relative's address for IB, have the good sense not to talk about it, and to keep your chin up. In the grand scheme of things, you pay plenty in taxes to the City and even the best DCPS schools are no great prize, OP.

You sound like a moron. Also, you're stealing from both the city and another family whose child would have otherwise gotten that seat.

[Anonymous]

Just going to leave this right here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/434051-story-of-mother-sentenced-to-jail-for-enrolling-child-in%3famp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My mother lives WOTP and the long term goal is to buy her house from her, but she is not ready to move yet and neither are we.

So my question is what is legal? My choices are 1. do nothing - Stay at our IB school until we actually move (prob not for 3-5 years) and then just transfer DD in at 2nd or 3rd once we actually move OR 2. I'm wondering if it's legal to rent a room from her for next years lottery when DD will be going into K (so she can start off with the class she will eventually be in anyway) or similarly buy the house from her so we legally own it and pay taxes but then rent it back to her until we are all ready to make moves?

Go ahead and cheat. But you should probably be aware that this issue has been getting a lot of attention lately, and a lot of people are really sick and tired of Marylanders and Virginians ripping off the system. So you're a lot more likely to get reported for cheating by one of your child's parents. And DC politicians are coming under a lot more pressure to crack down on cheaters because, again, their constituents are just really sick and tired of this (have you noticed the big signs on Metro buses now, urging the public to turn in residency cheaters?). And if you get caught, it can ugly -- owing half-a-million-dollars ugly. Would you get away with it? Yeah, probably. But the odds aren't quite as in favor of you as they used to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother lives WOTP and the long term goal is to buy her house from her, but she is not ready to move yet and neither are we.

So my question is what is legal? My choices are 1. do nothing - Stay at our IB school until we actually move (prob not for 3-5 years) and then just transfer DD in at 2nd or 3rd once we actually move OR 2. I'm wondering if it's legal to rent a room from her for next years lottery when DD will be going into K (so she can start off with the class she will eventually be in anyway) or similarly buy the house from her so we legally own it and pay taxes but then rent it back to her until we are all ready to make moves?

Go ahead and cheat. But you should probably be aware that this issue has been getting a lot of attention lately, and a lot of people are really sick and tired of Marylanders and Virginians ripping off the system. So you're a lot more likely to get reported for cheating by one of your child's parents. And DC politicians are coming under a lot more pressure to crack down on cheaters because, again, their constituents are just really sick and tired of this (have you noticed the big signs on Metro buses now, urging the public to turn in residency cheaters?). And if you get caught, it can ugly -- owing half-a-million-dollars ugly. Would you get away with it? Yeah, probably. But the odds aren't quite as in favor of you as they used to be.

That is, one of your child's classmate's parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just going to leave this right here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/434051-story-of-mother-sentenced-to-jail-for-enrolling-child-in%3famp

This was a separate school district. Has there ever been a case where someone was prosecuted for boundary cheating within the same district?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother lives WOTP and the long term goal is to buy her house from her, but she is not ready to move yet and neither are we.

So my question is what is legal? My choices are 1. do nothing - Stay at our IB school until we actually move (prob not for 3-5 years) and then just transfer DD in at 2nd or 3rd once we actually move OR 2. I'm wondering if it's legal to rent a room from her for next years lottery when DD will be going into K (so she can start off with the class she will eventually be in anyway) or similarly buy the house from her so we legally own it and pay taxes but then rent it back to her until we are all ready to make moves?

Go ahead and cheat. But you should probably be aware that this issue has been getting a lot of attention lately, and a lot of people are really sick and tired of Marylanders and Virginians ripping off the system. So you're a lot more likely to get reported for cheating by one of your child's parents. And DC politicians are coming under a lot more pressure to crack down on cheaters because, again, their constituents are just really sick and tired of this (have you noticed the big signs on Metro buses now, urging the public to turn in residency cheaters?). And if you get caught, it can ugly -- owing half-a-million-dollars ugly. Would you get away with it? Yeah, probably. But the odds aren't quite as in favor of you as they used to be.

OP didn’t say she lived out of state. Can’t be fined for out of tuition if you live in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother lives WOTP and the long term goal is to buy her house from her, but she is not ready to move yet and neither are we.

So my question is what is legal? My choices are 1. do nothing - Stay at our IB school until we actually move (prob not for 3-5 years) and then just transfer DD in at 2nd or 3rd once we actually move OR 2. I'm wondering if it's legal to rent a room from her for next years lottery when DD will be going into K (so she can start off with the class she will eventually be in anyway) or similarly buy the house from her so we legally own it and pay taxes but then rent it back to her until we are all ready to make moves?

Go ahead and cheat. But you should probably be aware that this issue has been getting a lot of attention lately, and a lot of people are really sick and tired of Marylanders and Virginians ripping off the system. So you're a lot more likely to get reported for cheating by one of your child's parents. And DC politicians are coming under a lot more pressure to crack down on cheaters because, again, their constituents are just really sick and tired of this (have you noticed the big signs on Metro buses now, urging the public to turn in residency cheaters?). And if you get caught, it can ugly -- owing half-a-million-dollars ugly. Would you get away with it? Yeah, probably. But the odds aren't quite as in favor of you as they used to be.

That is, one of your child's classmate's parents.

That would give me no pause at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother lives WOTP and the long term goal is to buy her house from her, but she is not ready to move yet and neither are we.

So my question is what is legal? My choices are 1. do nothing - Stay at our IB school until we actually move (prob not for 3-5 years) and then just transfer DD in at 2nd or 3rd once we actually move OR 2. I'm wondering if it's legal to rent a room from her for next years lottery when DD will be going into K (so she can start off with the class she will eventually be in anyway) or similarly buy the house from her so we legally own it and pay taxes but then rent it back to her until we are all ready to make moves?

Go ahead and cheat. But you should probably be aware that this issue has been getting a lot of attention lately, and a lot of people are really sick and tired of Marylanders and Virginians ripping off the system. So you're a lot more likely to get reported for cheating by one of your child's parents. And DC politicians are coming under a lot more pressure to crack down on cheaters because, again, their constituents are just really sick and tired of this (have you noticed the big signs on Metro buses now, urging the public to turn in residency cheaters?). And if you get caught, it can ugly -- owing half-a-million-dollars ugly. Would you get away with it? Yeah, probably. But the odds aren't quite as in favor of you as they used to be.

That is, one of your child's classmate's parents.

That would give me no pause at all.

Maybe you're politically tone deaf. The politics of this issue are clearly changing. There is no question that it is becoming increasingly risky to cheat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother lives WOTP and the long term goal is to buy her house from her, but she is not ready to move yet and neither are we.

So my question is what is legal? My choices are 1. do nothing - Stay at our IB school until we actually move (prob not for 3-5 years) and then just transfer DD in at 2nd or 3rd once we actually move OR 2. I'm wondering if it's legal to rent a room from her for next years lottery when DD will be going into K (so she can start off with the class she will eventually be in anyway) or similarly buy the house from her so we legally own it and pay taxes but then rent it back to her until we are all ready to make moves?

Go ahead and cheat. But you should probably be aware that this issue has been getting a lot of attention lately, and a lot of people are really sick and tired of Marylanders and Virginians ripping off the system. So you're a lot more likely to get reported for cheating by one of your child's parents. And DC politicians are coming under a lot more pressure to crack down on cheaters because, again, their constituents are just really sick and tired of this (have you noticed the big signs on Metro buses now, urging the public to turn in residency cheaters?). And if you get caught, it can ugly -- owing half-a-million-dollars ugly. Would you get away with it? Yeah, probably. But the odds aren't quite as in favor of you as they used to be.

That is, one of your child's classmate's parents.

That would give me no pause at all.

Maybe you're politically tone deaf. The politics of this issue are clearly changing. There is no question that it is becoming increasingly risky to cheat.

It all depends on what you're doing to "cheat" on residency. If you own a residential property you use for IB residency, and don't rent it out formally, pretty clearly DCPS doesn't care about your particular variant of "cheating" at this point in time. Not sure if they care about what OP's proposing. They obviously do care a lot more about non-DC residents who don't file DC taxes using DC schools than they did even a few years ago. No question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just going to leave this right here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/434051-story-of-mother-sentenced-to-jail-for-enrolling-child-in%3famp

A case in Ohio! Relevance?

[Anonymous]

OP here, I should have mentioned I do live in the city and pay taxes in dc

I’d never want to put DD in a situation where she would have to lie. If I owned the home that was IB though, and was letting my mother live there until we moved in would parents really report me?!? (I obviously get the frustration when you see Maryland tags in the carpool line)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, if you're here asking if it's OK to use your mom's address for a school, I'd wager that you don't have the moxie to pull this off. In these situations, my advice would to be pay your DC taxes where you like, as long as a family member owns the house and it's not rented out. Nobody's business but yours where you sleep. Collect a stack of residency docs in case you're investigation for residency fraud, and don't advertise where your residency situation at the school you use. If you get investigated, switch houses with your mom til things blow over. If you need your choice validated by non family members, you're not cut out for this shades-of-gray approach to residency. The holier than though moralists on these threads are blowhards who deserve to be ignored.

I respect you for at least detailing how this is fraudulent. What annoys me is when people claim it isn't.

Fradulent, whatever. We use a property we jointly own w/grandparents as our IB address. We renovated the house extensively, mainly through sweat equity and love the place. Kids stay there often. We tune out the small number of school busybodies whisper about us. DCPS investigated us and cleared us years back. If you want to use a relative's address for IB, have the good sense not to talk about it, and to keep your chin up. In the grand scheme of things, you pay plenty in taxes to the City and even the best DCPS schools are no great prize, OP.

You’re a horrible person. Your ridiculous sense of entitlement harms people.

+1. I hate people who try justify to themselves why they should get to break the rules.

[Anonymous]

Folks, face it, the ONLY way to stop this is to follow them home. I've done it multiple times and posted here about it.

Follow them home and report what you find. Take pictures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, I should have mentioned I do live in the city and pay taxes in dc

I’d never want to put DD in a situation where she would have to lie. If I owned the home that was IB though, and was letting my mother live there until we moved in would parents really report me?!? (I obviously get the frustration when you see Maryland tags in the carpool line)

You would be lying every time you filled out even a field trip form. But you seem ok with that.