WaPo magazine article on the lottery

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Anonymous wrote:At the elementary level, when the majority of prospective IB students cannot get into their EOTP IB at PK3 and PK4 because 70% of seats are for OOB ELL, they rarely try to enroll when they can by-right.
In other words, at least EOTP, you can't blame those for leaving, when their peer cohort couldn't get in.

Bruce Monroe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the elementary level, when the majority of prospective IB students cannot get into their EOTP IB at PK3 and PK4 because 70% of seats are for OOB ELL, they rarely try to enroll when they can by-right.
In other words, at least EOTP, you can't blame those for leaving, when their peer cohort couldn't get in.

what? Is this Bruce-Monroe? Our school is where kids go when they don't get in to Bruce-Monroe and they typically leave us for K.

Do they go back to Bruce Monroe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the elementary level, when the majority of prospective IB students cannot get into their EOTP IB at PK3 and PK4 because 70% of seats are for OOB ELL, they rarely try to enroll when they can by-right.
In other words, at least EOTP, you can't blame those for leaving, when their peer cohort couldn't get in.

what? Is this Bruce-Monroe? Our school is where kids go when they don't get in to Bruce-Monroe and they typically leave us for K.

Do they go back to Bruce Monroe?

Yes, or else they get in to Mundo or ITS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Only 27% are enrolled in their IB school."

So despite hundreds of millions in renovations, expansion of Pk3, students returning to DCPS for HS ... the percentage of students attending their IB has only increased 2% since the last boundary review.

Are you saying that DC should not renovate the buildings or have PK3? They are still filled with DC students? Do OOB students not deserve to attend a school that’s in decent shape?

NP. I'd say the fortune DCPS spent renovating Roosevelt could have been better allocated. Then again, as long as DCPS keeps lowering academic and behavior standards in the name of "equity," the system will stink no matter how the money is spent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the elementary level, when the majority of prospective IB students cannot get into their EOTP IB at PK3 and PK4 because 70% of seats are for OOB ELL, they rarely try to enroll when they can by-right.
In other words, at least EOTP, you can't blame those for leaving, when their peer cohort couldn't get in.

what? Is this ? Our school is where kids go when they don't get in to Bruce-Monroe and they typically leave us for K.

Do they go back to Bruce Monroe?

Yes, or else they get in to Mundo or ITS.

UMC families move to Bruce Monroe from other schools for K? Woah times have changed! This is awesome. Six years ago the most woke self-proclaimed social activists were *offended* at being lobbied by "woker" and self-proclaimed bigger and biggest social activists (yeah my woke neighbors are competitive in their wokeness) to send their kids to Bruce Monroe for PK3.

Yep. They may not stay through 5th of course, but Bruce-Monroe is hardly the lowest-performing school in the area. People may attene Seaton, Langley, Garrison etc if they can make the logistics work, but the temptation of a shorter commute and having Spanish will draw them back to Bruce-Monroe for K.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Only 27% are enrolled in their IB school."

So despite hundreds of millions in renovations, expansion of Pk3, students returning to DCPS for HS ... the percentage of students attending their IB has only increased 2% since the last boundary review.

For the last time, parent don’t choose schools based on renovations!! If it’s underperforming, lacks rigor etc, no one cares how shiny and new it is.

And yet, that's where we have invested, as a city. Shiny and a zillion bells and whistles probably isn't needed, but fixing dilapidated buildings is.

We do need better options, and that starts with investing in DC adults who need supports and skills and safe neighborhoods and good paying jobs to enter and stay in the workforce. Without that, the underperforming schools are fighting an uphill battle that they will not win.

How do you propose that under-educated DC adults without marketable skills get and keep "good paying jobs"? The time to think about that is in elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Only 27% are enrolled in their IB school."

So despite hundreds of millions in renovations, expansion of Pk3, students returning to DCPS for HS ... the percentage of students attending their IB has only increased 2% since the last boundary review.

For the last time, parent don’t choose schools based on renovations!! If it’s underperforming, lacks rigor etc, no one cares how shiny and new it is.

And yet, that's where we have invested, as a city. Shiny and a zillion bells and whistles probably isn't needed, but fixing dilapidated buildings is.

We do need better options, and that starts with investing in DC adults who need supports and skills and safe neighborhoods and good paying jobs to enter and stay in the workforce. Without that, the underperforming schools are fighting an uphill battle that they will not win.

How do you propose that under-educated DC adults without marketable skills get and keep "good paying jobs"? The time to think about that is in elementary school.

DC Infrastructure Academy provides free training for CDL, auto mechanic, energy and utilities.
UDC has free career training.
The HOPE Project offer free IT training for DC residents.

These are just a few of the programs I can think of off the top of my head; there are several other programs available. There are plenty of opportunities for under-educated adults to get marketable skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Only 27% are enrolled in their IB school."

So despite hundreds of millions in renovations, expansion of Pk3, students returning to DCPS for HS ... the percentage of students attending their IB has only increased 2% since the last boundary review.

For the last time, parent don’t choose schools based on renovations!! If it’s underperforming, lacks rigor etc, no one cares how shiny and new it is.

And yet, that's where we have invested, as a city. Shiny and a zillion bells and whistles probably isn't needed, but fixing dilapidated buildings is.

We do need better options, and that starts with investing in DC adults who need supports and skills and safe neighborhoods and good paying jobs to enter and stay in the workforce. Without that, the underperforming schools are fighting an uphill battle that they will not win.

How do you propose that under-educated DC adults without marketable skills get and keep "good paying jobs"? The time to think about that is in elementary school.

DC Infrastructure Academy provides free training for CDL, auto mechanic, energy and utilities.
UDC has free career training.
The HOPE Project offer free IT training for DC residents.

These are just a few of the programs I can think of off the top of my head; there are several other programs available. There are plenty of opportunities for under-educated adults to get marketable skills.

The push for low-cost, quality child care from age 0 would make these programs more realistic. These problems are interrelated and their children need help from birth, not elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the elementary level, when the majority of prospective IB students cannot get into their EOTP IB at PK3 and PK4 because 70% of seats are for OOB ELL, they rarely try to enroll when they can by-right.
In other words, at least EOTP, you can't blame those for leaving, when their peer cohort couldn't get in.

what? Is this ? Our school is where kids go when they don't get in to Bruce-Monroe and they typically leave us for K.

Do they go back to Bruce Monroe?

Yes, or else they get in to Mundo or ITS.

UMC families move to Bruce Monroe from other schools for K? Woah times have changed! This is awesome. Six years ago the most woke self-proclaimed social activists were *offended* at being lobbied by "woker" and self-proclaimed bigger and biggest social activists (yeah my woke neighbors are competitive in their wokeness) to send their kids to Bruce Monroe for PK3.

Yep. They may not stay through 5th of course, but Bruce-Monroe is hardly the lowest-performing school in the area. People may attene Seaton, Langley, Garrison etc if they can make the logistics work, but the temptation of a shorter commute and having Spanish will draw them back to Bruce-Monroe for K.

Per the DME website, BMPV has 26.7 percent of the kids living in its boundary. Interestingly it loses the most kids (41) to Raymond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Only 27% are enrolled in their IB school."

So despite hundreds of millions in renovations, expansion of Pk3, students returning to DCPS for HS ... the percentage of students attending their IB has only increased 2% since the last boundary review.

For the last time, parent don’t choose schools based on renovations!! If it’s underperforming, lacks rigor etc, no one cares how shiny and new it is.

And yet, that's where we have invested, as a city. Shiny and a zillion bells and whistles probably isn't needed, but fixing dilapidated buildings is.

We do need better options, and that starts with investing in DC adults who need supports and skills and safe neighborhoods and good paying jobs to enter and stay in the workforce. Without that, the underperforming schools are fighting an uphill battle that they will not win.

How do you propose that under-educated DC adults without marketable skills get and keep "good paying jobs"? The time to think about that is in elementary school.

DC Infrastructure Academy provides free training for CDL, auto mechanic, energy and utilities.
UDC has free career training.
The HOPE Project offer free IT training for DC residents.

These are just a few of the programs I can think of off the top of my head; there are several other programs available. There are plenty of opportunities for under-educated adults to get marketable skills.

The push for low-cost, quality child care from age 0 would make these programs more realistic. These problems are interrelated and their children need help from birth, not elementary school.

I heard there are childcare vouchers in MD. A sitter I knew worked in a daycare where a good chunk of the families paid using those vouchers. Is there a similar system here? A city-run childcare system with fees on a sliding scale would be amazing.

[Anonymous]

Yes DC has childcare vouchers which may be used at licensed providers (there are some exceptions). http://childcareconnections.osse.dc.gov/MyChildCare/PayingForChildCare/2603/0

Providers say that the licensing requirements which emcompass safety, staffing levels, minimum qualifications for staff are very expensive to comply with, and forces them to charge more than the subsidies cover.

Bowser and Councilman Gray, in particular, have been pushing for solutions to both expand the number of high-quality centers, and make them more affordable for residents through things like tax credits and tying costs to a percentage of income for low to lower-middle income families).

In 2018 the Council passed the Birth to Three bill which lays out a 10-year roadmap for this effort. The plan is ambitious; now they need to find funding.

https://wamu.org/story/18/11/19/d-c-looks-for-ways-to-fund-ambitious-early-childhood-program/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the elementary level, when the majority of prospective IB students cannot get into their EOTP IB at PK3 and PK4 because 70% of seats are for OOB ELL, they rarely try to enroll when they can by-right.
In other words, at least EOTP, you can't blame those for leaving, when their peer cohort couldn't get in.

This is only true for dual language schools, where you have a lottery that assigns 50% of the slots to English dominant kids and 50% to Spanish dominant.

We are at a dual language school EOTP. Most IB kids get in, and most of our Spanish dominant admits are IB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Only 27% are enrolled in their IB school."

So despite hundreds of millions in renovations, expansion of Pk3, students returning to DCPS for HS ... the percentage of students attending their IB has only increased 2% since the last boundary review.

For the last time, parent don’t choose schools based on renovations!! If it’s underperforming, lacks rigor etc, no one cares how shiny and new it is.

And yet, that's where we have invested, as a city. Shiny and a zillion bells and whistles probably isn't needed, but fixing dilapidated buildings is.

We do need better options, and that starts with investing in DC adults who need supports and skills and safe neighborhoods and good paying jobs to enter and stay in the workforce. Without that, the underperforming schools are fighting an uphill battle that they will not win.

Not quite. We've invested a lot recently because we refused to invest a little for a very long time. Had the schools been kept up over the decades, the billion dollar capital improvement funds wouldn't have been needed. Kids don't need bells and whistles, but they do need solid walls, functioning heat and a/c as well as a rat-free classroom.

+1! If my IB elementary hadn't been renovated, it would definitely have been crossed off my list. Windows were broken, bathrooms were unusable, kids had to wear coats in the classrooms because the heat wasn't working. Even the brightest kids would underperform in those conditions. Now that it's renovated, I can feel the change in morale every time I walk into the building. It feels like a place where kids can learn, and the school is definitely taking advantage of its new labs, auditorium, common spaces, etc.

This. I very much do care about having an acceptable building that meets minimum standards and has adequate classroom and activity space. No, that will not bring people into an otherwise failing school, but it is definitely a factor that I consider when comparing schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Only 27% are enrolled in their IB school."

So despite hundreds of millions in renovations, expansion of Pk3, students returning to DCPS for HS ... the percentage of students attending their IB has only increased 2% since the last boundary review.

For the last time, parent don’t choose schools based on renovations!! If it’s underperforming, lacks rigor etc, no one cares how shiny and new it is.

This! My IB is newly renovated and looks amazing. Still underperforming.

If my IB elementary hadn't been renovated, it would definitely have been crossed off my list. Windows were broken, bathrooms were unusable, kids had to wear coats in the classrooms because the heat wasn't working. Even the brightest kids would underperform in those conditions. Now that it's renovated, I can feel the change in morale every time I walk into the building. It feels like a place where kids can learn, and the school is definitely taking advantage of its new labs, auditorium, common spaces, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the elementary level, when the majority of prospective IB students cannot get into their EOTP IB at PK3 and PK4 because 70% of seats are for OOB ELL, they rarely try to enroll when they can by-right.
In other words, at least EOTP, you can't blame those for leaving, when their peer cohort couldn't get in.

what? Is this Bruce-Monroe? Our school is where kids go when they don't get in to Bruce-Monroe and they typically leave us for K.

Do they go back to Bruce Monroe?

They aren’t coming back to Brice Monroe for K. Certainly not any English dominant kids.