I understand you desire to protect Notre Dame.. it has a very faithful following. (Do you know why?) BTW, Catholics were one of the 1st groups to provide safe and free abortions to women before Roe v. Wade. They could do a documentary on that, but that would not show it's current reality. The fact is there are a ton of people at Notre Dame that are conservative and bigots. They are not very friendly to LBGT. I am not saying the administration or the teacher are not friendly but there are students that are not. It's just a fact. |
So what? He could be great and every faculty member there. ND is not liberal, it is not diversity loving and it most certainly is not LGBTQ friendly. It is a school for private catholic school kids to go to. And it is in Indiana. Have you been there? Even the workers at McDonalds are milky white.
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The 2 kids I know who go there love it and are very happy. |
Sorry, but I would say you are the bigot. And who cares that it is not liberal...the question posed was not about whether a school is liber or not. There is a place for everyone, and I can tell you that the students at this school are VERY happy and well adjusted. Try to find anything about suicides at ND...I guarantee it will be sparse. And for an elite school, that is pretty impressive. Google suicide and all the other top schools and there is all kinds of tragedy. Sad. I am from the Northeast and have visited ND, and frankly it is a breath of fresh air to be in the midwest where people are actually polite and kind. |
I don't know about undergrads, but for law school, the opposite is actually true. When it really matters where you graduate in your class (as it does at lower ranked schools), students get very cutthroat. |
What a typical snarky DCUM post. Starting to think DC is the area of bitter people. |
It is a great school from what I've seen. Comment is based on experience of one person. Most colleges don't actually track suicide rates, but the ones that do almost always have rates below the national rates. Veterans tend to be among highest categories. |
The suicide rate in the U.S. is now about 14 per 100,000 people per year. If you apply to a school with about 6,500 undergraduates like W&M, you would expect about 1 suicide per year. There was an article in the Washington Post that said there have been something like 13 in 45 years. That would be only 30% or so of the average. It wouldn't surprise me if almost all colleges are actually well below the national average over time. The suicide rate among veterans is about 30 per 100,000 per year, which is higher than average, but it is actually much, much worse than that among younger veterans compared to the same age non-veterans. Beyond that, the issues related with the recent increase in the rate tend to be related to substance abuse, health, jobs, etc. Those are more typically post-college or post-high school issues. |
| I think colleges with relatively high alumni giving rates and high graduation rates generally have pretty satisfied students. |
MIT has actually had a suicide rate a bit above average recently. But Cornell, a school often (incorrectly) cited as having a high rate is actually well below average. http://tech.mit.edu/V120/N6/comp6.6n.html |
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That college does not exist because it's all about fit. Not everyone is happy in the same environments. And what is well- adjusted really? If you're miserable where you are...
Stanford with their duck syndrome is a great example where all is sunshine and surface chill. But some love it there and others don't. Are you mal-adjusted if you don't think it's great?? The MIT kid who would rather not have a lot of social pressure might be miserable at a rah-rah big football school yet loves the firehouse experience of his school. |
| Where do you find alumni giving rates? |
USNews has them. |
? You do know W&M has had several suicides over the years, and that's not being snarky. Not clear at all why it has had this problem, but whenever the name W&M is mentioned someone is bound to bring that up. |
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I chose University of Rochester for those reasons. Great academics, smart kids, variety of activities, but no one was cut throat. Plus, I got a boat load of merit $$..
Strong math/stats and social science. About 6000 undergrads and multiple grad schools. |