Anybody listening to NPR?

Anonymous
I'm a Centrist Dem- So let's just take all the high achieving minorities from all the other schools and put them into one school ? In an effort to solve one problem, you just created multiple new ones. How about this? Let's put in the effort of making each school as strong as possible by having theme- based schools (like the DCC) and allow kids to go to whatever school they want to based on their interest, as long as it doesn't cause overcrowding at that school. Look at Wheaton. Wheaton HS used to be the school that no one wanted to go to; and now it's quickly turning its reputation around since the implementation of it's Engineering program.


No one wants to go to Wheaton. The DCC is a failure from an integration standpoint. Look at the over selection of Blair and the demographics of Kennedy. Even the Metis report identified the DCC as a failure for its original intent.

You don't sound like a centrist Dem.
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Honestly, I take all these witness accounts with a grain of salt. We live in a very "poor me" society today, and it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between painful, traumatizing discrimination and just dealing with being different, through no fault of anyone's.

I was educated in different countries because of my father's job. During one 4 year stretch, I was not only the sole foreigner, but also the sole mixed-ethnicity student of the entire school. I was bullied and teased for a little while, but I dealt with it and made good friends. It felt absolutely no different than later on, when I went to an international, diverse school full of kids of mixed ethnicity.

So suck it up, kiddos. We all have to deal with things.



I'm assuming you didn't hear the NPR discussion. This child sounded visibly upset as she talked about how she would have given up the equity and resources associated with her Whitman experience if she wouldn't known then what she knows now. She talked about how some student were called the "n" word, and how the vast majority of students didn't care about discrimination because they never had to think about it themselves. And that her experience in the Minority Scholars Program was a saving grace.

But good for you, I guess? You assume your experience was similar to hers, and that therefore she should just suck it up. Nice going.

If anyone wants to listen, it's around the 49:00 mark.

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2019-02-28/kojo-roadshow-a-town-hall-on-school-diversity-in-montgomery-county/113756/@00:00



I feel bad for her. Really I do, but unfortunately this can happen at any school where a student is really just one of the few who are like them. I'm Asian and when we first moved to this country, I attended a school where it was predominantly Blacks and Latinos. I was literally one of maybe 3-4 Asian kids (if that) in my grade. I got teased a lot and it was tough. This is why TRULY diverse schools are important.


The two experiences are not completely analogous. I believe you that your experience was tough as an Asian kid in a black/Latino school. However, it likely includes different dynamics than the experience of an AA girl in an all-white, affluent school. It's different for those who experienced a long history of oppression in this country.

-black and Asian PP, and 1st-gen American


It is waaaaaaaay easier to be an AA girl in an all-white, affluent school than being an Asian kid in a black/ Latino, non-affluent school.

If you don't get that...


How can you say that with such authority and conviction when you don't know what she experienced? How can you be 100% her experience was "waaaaaaay easier?"
Anonymous
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I'm a Centrist Dem- So let's just take all the high achieving minorities from all the other schools and put them into one school ? In an effort to solve one problem, you just created multiple new ones. How about this? Let's put in the effort of making each school as strong as possible by having theme- based schools (like the DCC) and allow kids to go to whatever school they want to based on their interest, as long as it doesn't cause overcrowding at that school. Look at Wheaton. Wheaton HS used to be the school that no one wanted to go to; and now it's quickly turning its reputation around since the implementation of it's Engineering program.


No one wants to go to Wheaton. The DCC is a failure from an integration standpoint. Look at the over selection of Blair and the demographics of Kennedy. Even the Metis report identified the DCC as a failure for its original intent.

You don't sound like a centrist Dem.


#1. THere are kids outside of the Wheaton assignment who DO want to go to Wheaton because of this program so to say that no one wants to go to Wheaton is false. #2. The over-selection of Blair is due to the magnet program. You know that.
My point is, why should only a few schools be the coveted schools in the county? If it's not a W-school (which many can't afford), then everyone else is pressed for the magnet programs at RM, Blair, and Poolesville.
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Honestly, I take all these witness accounts with a grain of salt. We live in a very "poor me" society today, and it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between painful, traumatizing discrimination and just dealing with being different, through no fault of anyone's.

I was educated in different countries because of my father's job. During one 4 year stretch, I was not only the sole foreigner, but also the sole mixed-ethnicity student of the entire school. I was bullied and teased for a little while, but I dealt with it and made good friends. It felt absolutely no different than later on, when I went to an international, diverse school full of kids of mixed ethnicity.

So suck it up, kiddos. We all have to deal with things.



I'm assuming you didn't hear the NPR discussion. This child sounded visibly upset as she talked about how she would have given up the equity and resources associated with her Whitman experience if she wouldn't known then what she knows now. She talked about how some student were called the "n" word, and how the vast majority of students didn't care about discrimination because they never had to think about it themselves. And that her experience in the Minority Scholars Program was a saving grace.

But good for you, I guess? You assume your experience was similar to hers, and that therefore she should just suck it up. Nice going.

If anyone wants to listen, it's around the 49:00 mark.

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2019-02-28/kojo-roadshow-a-town-hall-on-school-diversity-in-montgomery-county/113756/@00:00



Can your repeat any concrete examples of what she didn’t like about her high school experience?
Was she called names? Made fun of? Grade more easily or more harshly? Not allowed on teams or clubs? Made no friends?
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Was their discrimination going on?
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Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, I take all these witness accounts with a grain of salt. We live in a very "poor me" society today, and it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between painful, traumatizing discrimination and just dealing with being different, through no fault of anyone's.

I was educated in different countries because of my father's job. During one 4 year stretch, I was not only the sole foreigner, but also the sole mixed-ethnicity student of the entire school. I was bullied and teased for a little while, but I dealt with it and made good friends. It felt absolutely no different than later on, when I went to an international, diverse school full of kids of mixed ethnicity.

So suck it up, kiddos. We all have to deal with things.



I'm assuming you didn't hear the NPR discussion. This child sounded visibly upset as she talked about how she would have given up the equity and resources associated with her Whitman experience if she wouldn't known then what she knows now. She talked about how some student were called the "n" word, and how the vast majority of students didn't care about discrimination because they never had to think about it themselves. And that her experience in the Minority Scholars Program was a saving grace.

But good for you, I guess? You assume your experience was similar to hers, and that therefore she should just suck it up. Nice going.

If anyone wants to listen, it's around the 49:00 mark.

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2019-02-28/kojo-roadshow-a-town-hall-on-school-diversity-in-montgomery-county/113756/@00:00



I feel bad for her. Really I do, but unfortunately this can happen at any school where a student is really just one of the few who are like them. I'm Asian and when we first moved to this country, I attended a school where it was predominantly Blacks and Latinos. I was literally one of maybe 3-4 Asian kids (if that) in my grade. I got teased a lot and it was tough. This is why TRULY diverse schools are important.


The two experiences are not completely analogous. I believe you that your experience was tough as an Asian kid in a black/Latino school. However, it likely includes different dynamics than the experience of an AA girl in an all-white, affluent school. It's different for those who experienced a long history of oppression in this country.

-black and Asian PP, and 1st-gen American


It is waaaaaaaay easier to be an AA girl in an all-white, affluent school than being an Asian kid in a black/ Latino, non-affluent school.

If you don't get that...


How can you say that with such authority and conviction when you don't know what she experienced? How can you be 100% her experience was "waaaaaaay easier?"


Hmm.

Would you prefer to be hit by a truck or by a trycicle?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, I take all these witness accounts with a grain of salt. We live in a very "poor me" society today, and it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between painful, traumatizing discrimination and just dealing with being different, through no fault of anyone's.

I was educated in different countries because of my father's job. During one 4 year stretch, I was not only the sole foreigner, but also the sole mixed-ethnicity student of the entire school. I was bullied and teased for a little while, but I dealt with it and made good friends. It felt absolutely no different than later on, when I went to an international, diverse school full of kids of mixed ethnicity.

So suck it up, kiddos. We all have to deal with things.



I'm assuming you didn't hear the NPR discussion. This child sounded visibly upset as she talked about how she would have given up the equity and resources associated with her Whitman experience if she wouldn't known then what she knows now. She talked about how some student were called the "n" word, and how the vast majority of students didn't care about discrimination because they never had to think about it themselves. And that her experience in the Minority Scholars Program was a saving grace.

But good for you, I guess? You assume your experience was similar to hers, and that therefore she should just suck it up. Nice going.

I went to Blair and was picked on by some Latino kids, what conclusions should we jump to and make policy off of?

If anyone wants to listen, it's around the 49:00 mark.

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2019-02-28/kojo-roadshow-a-town-hall-on-school-diversity-in-montgomery-county/113756/@00:00



Can your repeat any concrete examples of what she didn’t like about her high school experience?
Was she called names? Made fun of? Grade more easily or more harshly? Not allowed on teams or clubs? Made no friends?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, I take all these witness accounts with a grain of salt. We live in a very "poor me" society today, and it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between painful, traumatizing discrimination and just dealing with being different, through no fault of anyone's.

I was educated in different countries because of my father's job. During one 4 year stretch, I was not only the sole foreigner, but also the sole mixed-ethnicity student of the entire school. I was bullied and teased for a little while, but I dealt with it and made good friends. It felt absolutely no different than later on, when I went to an international, diverse school full of kids of mixed ethnicity.

So suck it up, kiddos. We all have to deal with things.



I'm assuming you didn't hear the NPR discussion. This child sounded visibly upset as she talked about how she would have given up the equity and resources associated with her Whitman experience if she wouldn't known then what she knows now. She talked about how some student were called the "n" word, and how the vast majority of students didn't care about discrimination because they never had to think about it themselves. And that her experience in the Minority Scholars Program was a saving grace.

But good for you, I guess? You assume your experience was similar to hers, and that therefore she should just suck it up. Nice going.

I went to Blair and was picked on by some Latino kids, what conclusions should we jump to and make policy off of?

If anyone wants to listen, it's around the 49:00 mark.

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2019-02-28/kojo-roadshow-a-town-hall-on-school-diversity-in-montgomery-county/113756/@00:00



Can your repeat any concrete examples of what she didn’t like about her high school experience?
Was she called names? Made fun of? Grade more easily or more harshly? Not allowed on teams or clubs? Made no friends?


I went to Blair and was picked on by some Latino kids, what conclusions should we jump to and make policy off of?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, I take all these witness accounts with a grain of salt. We live in a very "poor me" society today, and it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between painful, traumatizing discrimination and just dealing with being different, through no fault of anyone's.

I was educated in different countries because of my father's job. During one 4 year stretch, I was not only the sole foreigner, but also the sole mixed-ethnicity student of the entire school. I was bullied and teased for a little while, but I dealt with it and made good friends. It felt absolutely no different than later on, when I went to an international, diverse school full of kids of mixed ethnicity.

So suck it up, kiddos. We all have to deal with things.



I'm assuming you didn't hear the NPR discussion. This child sounded visibly upset as she talked about how she would have given up the equity and resources associated with her Whitman experience if she wouldn't known then what she knows now. She talked about how some student were called the "n" word, and how the vast majority of students didn't care about discrimination because they never had to think about it themselves. And that her experience in the Minority Scholars Program was a saving grace.

But good for you, I guess? You assume your experience was similar to hers, and that therefore she should just suck it up. Nice going.

If anyone wants to listen, it's around the 49:00 mark.

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2019-02-28/kojo-roadshow-a-town-hall-on-school-diversity-in-montgomery-county/113756/@00:00



Can your repeat any concrete examples of what she didn’t like about her high school experience?
Was she called names? Made fun of? Grade more easily or more harshly? Not allowed on teams or clubs? Made no friends?

She got her 20 minutes of victim fame. She said what NPR needed to create their narrative. My money is that this is just another hoax to grab attention - we see it all the time these days.
Anonymous
No, Pp. what we see if people calling anyone a liar if they are too uncomfortable with what they are saying.
Anonymous
I heard this program live. One of the teachers did mention that at title 1 high school he has to spend a lot of time on the “bridge” program which means he’s spending a lot of time working on helping remedial students and that he can’t spend his time working on material for the rest of the class. He pointed out that colleagues at non-title 1 schoools don’t have to deal with this and that is why teachers gravitate towards those schools.

How do you go about fixing that?

It seems the board of education is putting a lot of dollars towards addressing the needs of those children but no amount of money can replace parental support or interest in education.

Is redistricting really going to solve the problem? The people who are invested in their children’s education will leave MCPS and move to other counties if they think they can get a better education elsewhere. Then our community will lose its luster and prominence and there will be no additional tax dollars left to address even the title 1 schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I heard this program live. One of the teachers did mention that at title 1 high school he has to spend a lot of time on the “bridge” program which means he’s spending a lot of time working on helping remedial students and that he can’t spend his time working on material for the rest of the class. He pointed out that colleagues at non-title 1 schoools don’t have to deal with this and that is why teachers gravitate towards those schools.

How do you go about fixing that?

It seems the board of education is putting a lot of dollars towards addressing the needs of those children but no amount of money can replace parental support or interest in education.

Is redistricting really going to solve the problem? The people who are invested in their children’s education will leave MCPS and move to other counties if they think they can get a better education elsewhere. Then our community will lose its luster and prominence and there will be no additional tax dollars left to address even the title 1 schools.


If you are referring to the MCPS "Bridge" program, Churchill has one also. It's a special education program and pulls kids from multiple schools.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, I take all these witness accounts with a grain of salt. We live in a very "poor me" society today, and it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between painful, traumatizing discrimination and just dealing with being different, through no fault of anyone's.

I was educated in different countries because of my father's job. During one 4 year stretch, I was not only the sole foreigner, but also the sole mixed-ethnicity student of the entire school. I was bullied and teased for a little while, but I dealt with it and made good friends. It felt absolutely no different than later on, when I went to an international, diverse school full of kids of mixed ethnicity.

So suck it up, kiddos. We all have to deal with things.



I'm assuming you didn't hear the NPR discussion. This child sounded visibly upset as she talked about how she would have given up the equity and resources associated with her Whitman experience if she wouldn't known then what she knows now. She talked about how some student were called the "n" word, and how the vast majority of students didn't care about discrimination because they never had to think about it themselves. And that her experience in the Minority Scholars Program was a saving grace.

But good for you, I guess? You assume your experience was similar to hers, and that therefore she should just suck it up. Nice going.

If anyone wants to listen, it's around the 49:00 mark.

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2019-02-28/kojo-roadshow-a-town-hall-on-school-diversity-in-montgomery-county/113756/@00:00



I feel bad for her. Really I do, but unfortunately this can happen at any school where a student is really just one of the few who are like them. I'm Asian and when we first moved to this country, I attended a school where it was predominantly Blacks and Latinos. I was literally one of maybe 3-4 Asian kids (if that) in my grade. I got teased a lot and it was tough. This is why TRULY diverse schools are important.


The two experiences are not completely analogous. I believe you that your experience was tough as an Asian kid in a black/Latino school. However, it likely includes different dynamics than the experience of an AA girl in an all-white, affluent school. It's different for those who experienced a long history of oppression in this country.

-black and Asian PP, and 1st-gen American


It is waaaaaaaay easier to be an AA girl in an all-white, affluent school than being an Asian kid in a black/ Latino, non-affluent school.

If you don't get that...


How can you say that with such authority and conviction when you don't know what she experienced? How can you be 100% her experience was "waaaaaaay easier?"


I'm not the PP.

Her individual experience may be an exception - I don't know. But in general I think the PP's statement is very true.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

If you are referring to the MCPS "Bridge" program, Churchill has one also. It's a special education program and pulls kids from multiple schools.


It sounds like you may be commenting without having heard the radio program. The teacher said there are approximately 5 students in the Bridge/special ed program at non-title 1 schools versus 100 at a title 1 school.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Honestly, I take all these witness accounts with a grain of salt. We live in a very "poor me" society today, and it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between painful, traumatizing discrimination and just dealing with being different, through no fault of anyone's.

I was educated in different countries because of my father's job. During one 4 year stretch, I was not only the sole foreigner, but also the sole mixed-ethnicity student of the entire school. I was bullied and teased for a little while, but I dealt with it and made good friends. It felt absolutely no different than later on, when I went to an international, diverse school full of kids of mixed ethnicity.

So suck it up, kiddos. We all have to deal with things.



I'm assuming you didn't hear the NPR discussion. This child sounded visibly upset as she talked about how she would have given up the equity and resources associated with her Whitman experience if she wouldn't known then what she knows now. She talked about how some student were called the "n" word, and how the vast majority of students didn't care about discrimination because they never had to think about it themselves. And that her experience in the Minority Scholars Program was a saving grace.

But good for you, I guess? You assume your experience was similar to hers, and that therefore she should just suck it up. Nice going.

If anyone wants to listen, it's around the 49:00 mark.

https://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2019-02-28/kojo-roadshow-a-town-hall-on-school-diversity-in-montgomery-county/113756/@00:00



I feel bad for her. Really I do, but unfortunately this can happen at any school where a student is really just one of the few who are like them. I'm Asian and when we first moved to this country, I attended a school where it was predominantly Blacks and Latinos. I was literally one of maybe 3-4 Asian kids (if that) in my grade. I got teased a lot and it was tough. This is why TRULY diverse schools are important.


The two experiences are not completely analogous. I believe you that your experience was tough as an Asian kid in a black/Latino school. However, it likely includes different dynamics than the experience of an AA girl in an all-white, affluent school. It's different for those who experienced a long history of oppression in this country.

-black and Asian PP, and 1st-gen American


It is waaaaaaaay easier to be an AA girl in an all-white, affluent school than being an Asian kid in a black/ Latino, non-affluent school.

If you don't get that...


How can you say that with such authority and conviction when you don't know what she experienced? How can you be 100% her experience was "waaaaaaay easier?"


I'm not the PP.

Her individual experience may be an exception - I don't know. But in general I think the PP's statement is very true.


Why? I want to respond with "citation needed" but I truly and non sarcastically don't understand why you believe that. What goes into that belief?
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