The most segregated schools in Maryland are in .... Howard County

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Anonymous wrote:What areas in HoCo are these wealthy black families moving?

What, you are looking for segregation tips?

How is it segregation if Blakc people are moving where white people live?

Neighborhoods in the DC area are all "segregated" by income. Most places with the exception of some DC neighborhoods have roughly similar house values.[/quote

In Rockville and throughout Montgomery County the MPDU program tries to decrease socioeconomic housing segregation by putting moderately priced units on all new developments. Housing segregation and school segregation go hand in hand and housing and school boundary policies can work to dismantle this form of segregation.

Thanks but you couldn't pay me to move to MoCo. Looking for info on HoCo.

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My guess is 3 also

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Anonymous wrote:What areas in HoCo are these wealthy black families moving?

What, you are looking for segregation tips?

How is it segregation if Blakc people are moving where white people live?

Neighborhoods in the DC area are all "segregated" by income. Most places with the exception of some DC neighborhoods have roughly similar house values.

Because they are looking to segregate themselves from the other black kids, hence making bad things worse.

Or maybe they're looking for the best schools for their children wherever that maybe.

Exactly.

Which is exactly the same thing white and Asian and Latino families are doing.

This segregation stuff is just political BS to divide us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The comments below the article prove the point of the article's premise - very disturbing. Thank you for sharing, OP.

What people think vs. what people do.

People may or may not like the trend of "segregation". Nevertheless, just because some people do not like that kind of segregation, it does not give them the right to use public resources to change how other people want to live their lives. Similarly, one can't force other people to live a segregated life either.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Oakland Mills back at the beginning of this graph.

Pretty amazing how things have changed..

Actually what surprises me about this graph is that the percentage of FARMS families has increased *everywhere* -- more slowly in some schools, less slowly in others, but an upward trend everywhere.

Some reasons why this might happen:

1. Families that were middle class in 2004 have lost income and now require FARMS.
2. The requirements for obtaining FARMS have loosened, so many more families are now eligible.
3. There has been an influx of poor families into Howard County.

I suspect, but am not certain -- that (3) is the main factor

I've heard the same. Coming in from Baltimore city.

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Anonymous wrote:This blogger uses the variance in the FARMS rate to say that Howard County schools are the most segregated in Maryland. He doesn't show his numbers though -- I would have bet on MCPS.

https://howardcounty640805081.wordpress.com/2019/02/02/how-did-howard-county-schools-become-the-most-segregated-county-in-maryland/?fbclid=IwAR31j6y_KYs8FYtp8HKpCCEpUIiatyIQRHkV-U5us8YRgQHHE4XAwncHH-s

I understand that politicians or reporters would sometimes be interested in this. It can be a controversial topic that can be used to gain publicity.
But in reality, why would a parent care whether the schools in the county are segregated?

Because segregated schools are bad for the society their children will live in.

And also because many parents care for more than just what's immediately good for their individual children.

Uh, no.

I don’t care how segregated, unsegregated, or self-segragated a school is. And that is regarding race, gender, nationality, income level, single/double/grandma caretaker.

I do care that the school maintains high standards, differentiates, and disciplines students when needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to Oakland Mills back at the beginning of this graph.

Pretty amazing how things have changed..

Actually what surprises me about this graph is that the percentage of FARMS families has increased *everywhere* -- more slowly in some schools, less slowly in others, but an upward trend everywhere.

Some reasons why this might happen:

1. Families that were middle class in 2004 have lost income and now require FARMS.
2. The requirements for obtaining FARMS have loosened, so many more families are now eligible.
3. There has been an influx of poor families into Howard County.

I suspect, but am not certain -- that (3) is the main factor

I've heard the same. Coming in from Baltimore city.

Yes under Obama the reportable I come threshold for receiving SNAP food stamps and FARM school meals was increased substantially.

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+1.

I've noticed that most wealthy black families choose to segregate their own kids far far away from majority-black schools (but, funny enough, that's called integration)

It's called integration because it is integration.

It's segregation, the same old segregation. "Good" families don't want their kids surrounded by "bad" kids.

Skin color is not the main variable here.

Agree.

Same for private school admits. Cream of the crop AA kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This blogger uses the variance in the FARMS rate to say that Howard County schools are the most segregated in Maryland. He doesn't show his numbers though -- I would have bet on MCPS.

https://howardcounty640805081.wordpress.com/2019/02/02/how-did-howard-county-schools-become-the-most-segregated-county-in-maryland/?fbclid=IwAR31j6y_KYs8FYtp8HKpCCEpUIiatyIQRHkV-U5us8YRgQHHE4XAwncHH-s

I understand that politicians or reporters would sometimes be interested in this. It can be a controversial topic that can be used to gain publicity.
But in reality, why would a parent care whether the schools in the county are segregated?

Because segregated schools are bad for the society their children will live in.

And also because many parents care for more than just what's immediately good for their individual children.

I completely disagree with this statement. Many parents, in theory, like the idea of less segregation, but as soon as it comes time for their precious white kids to attend school? That's a whole other ball of wax. I mean, there are those of us parents who do walk the walk, but so many more just talk the talk.

I’d like to know what the Central american mothers and fathers think about treating a greater good and integrated community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This blogger uses the variance in the FARMS rate to say that Howard County schools are the most segregated in Maryland. He doesn't show his numbers though -- I would have bet on MCPS.

https://howardcounty640805081.wordpress.com/2019/02/02/how-did-howard-county-schools-become-the-most-segregated-county-in-maryland/?fbclid=IwAR31j6y_KYs8FYtp8HKpCCEpUIiatyIQRHkV-U5us8YRgQHHE4XAwncHH-s

I understand that politicians or reporters would sometimes be interested in this. It can be a controversial topic that can be used to gain publicity.
But in reality, why would a parent care whether the schools in the county are segregated?

Because segregated schools are bad for the society their children will live in.

And also because many parents care for more than just what's immediately good for their individual children.

Uh, no.

I don’t care how segregated, unsegregated, or self-segragated a school is. And that is regarding race, gender, nationality, income level, single/double/grandma caretaker.

I do care that the school maintains high standards, differentiates, and disciplines students when needed.

Exactly. And if someone wants to make changes that could potentially be bad to our school quality, I have a problem with that. Even if they claim that the changes are good for decreasing "segregation" or increasing"diversity". The decrease of segregation (and similarly, increase of diversity) is a result of better society, not something you deliberately do to make your society "look better".

[Anonymous]

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Yes under Obama the reportable I come threshold for receiving SNAP food stamps and FARM school meals was increased substantially.

No, they weren't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This blogger uses the variance in the FARMS rate to say that Howard County schools are the most segregated in Maryland. He doesn't show his numbers though -- I would have bet on MCPS.

https://howardcounty640805081.wordpress.com/2019/02/02/how-did-howard-county-schools-become-the-most-segregated-county-in-maryland/?fbclid=IwAR31j6y_KYs8FYtp8HKpCCEpUIiatyIQRHkV-U5us8YRgQHHE4XAwncHH-s

I understand that politicians or reporters would sometimes be interested in this. It can be a controversial topic that can be used to gain publicity.
But in reality, why would a parent care whether the schools in the county are segregated?

Because segregated schools are bad for the society their children will live in.

And also because many parents care for more than just what's immediately good for their individual children.

I completely disagree with this statement. Many parents, in theory, like the idea of less segregation, but as soon as it comes time for their precious white kids to attend school? That's a whole other ball of wax. I mean, there are those of us parents who do walk the walk, but so many more just talk the talk.

I’d like to know what the Central american mothers and fathers think about treating a greater good and integrated community.

What does this mean?

[Anonymous]

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Uh, no.

I don’t care how segregated, unsegregated, or self-segragated a school is. And that is regarding race, gender, nationality, income level, single/double/grandma caretaker.

I do care that the school maintains high standards, differentiates, and disciplines students when needed.

Did you know that in Maryland, public schools were segregated BY LAW into the 1960s?

[Anonymous]

You can't force people to send their kids to schools they don't like. Even redistricting every year will get you nothing but cat and mouse game with residents where they keep moving or pushing back politically to get the result they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't force people to send their kids to schools they don't like. Even redistricting every year will get you nothing but cat and mouse game with residents where they keep moving or pushing back politically to get the result they want.

+1.

What we need is vouchers for all.

Parents know what's best for their kids. Not politicians.