APS - HB Woodlawn Lottery

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not a "double-blind lottery" because that's not an actual thing.

(A drug trial can be double-blind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinded_experiment#Double-blind_trials)

But it is a lottery -- it's just that the number of entries is smaller than it would be if they didn't fill some places with students who are judged to have a special need for the HB environment. The kid I know who got in this way is on the spectrum, for example.

APS calls it that...

random, double-blind system -- applications are randomly assigned numbers and numbers are randomly drawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still nothing for us too. Last time we were updated was 1/29. And, nothing in the mail either.

I am totally imagining APS staff sitting in their offices, munching on popcorn reading this thread, randomly "updating" certain people's applications, etc., just to fuel speculation about what it does or doesn't mean, then waiting until the 11th hour to send an email saying notifications will be late.

Hahahaha! The joke's on us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not a "double-blind lottery" because that's not an actual thing.

(A drug trial can be double-blind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinded_experiment#Double-blind_trials)

But it is a lottery -- it's just that the number of entries is smaller than it would be if they didn't fill some places with students who are judged to have a special need for the HB environment. The kid I know who got in this way is on the spectrum, for example.

APS calls it that...

random, double-blind system -- applications are randomly assigned numbers and numbers are randomly drawn.

It's more like double random, but whatever, the point is it doesn't matter what order you apply, they randomize the application stack (by randomly numbering them), then they randomly draw from that (by randomly drawing numbers).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I am totally imagining APS staff sitting in their offices, munching on popcorn reading this thread, randomly "updating" certain people's applications, etc., just to fuel speculation about what it does or doesn't mean, then waiting until the 11th hour to send an email saying notifications will be late.

You’re giving them way too much credit. You think they even remember that today is supposed to be notification day? And you think they’ll email saying it’s going to be late? I’d take the “no” to both of those bets but I’d admire your optimism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lottery really is double-blind. But, there are some kids that end up be3ign pupil placed for various reasons.

Based on some of the hand wringing in this thread about the timing and manner of the results, some of you may end up being frustrated by your HB experience. It can be a messy place, but you have to let the magic happen!

How can we apply for pupil placement? Is that common?

Show a legitimate need or know the right person. I know a 7th grader whose mom is friends with an APS administrator. That administrator was the right person.

Kids get in off the wait list. Mine was #5 for our elementary, got in in eight grade. It turned out he was friends with the girl who was #4--she wasn't back at his neighborhood school at the beginning of eighth, then she showed up a week later and told her friends she had tried H-B and didn't like it so she switched back. He realized later that was why the spot opened up for him. But there is movement on wait lists, which may be why kids just show up at H-B in 7th or 8th. The enrollment is capped so the administrators can't just let kids in as a favor. (Also, seriously? Why would they do that?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lottery really is double-blind. But, there are some kids that end up be3ign pupil placed for various reasons.

Based on some of the hand wringing in this thread about the timing and manner of the results, some of you may end up being frustrated by your HB experience. It can be a messy place, but you have to let the magic happen!

How can we apply for pupil placement? Is that common?

Show a legitimate need or know the right person. I know a 7th grader whose mom is friends with an APS administrator. That administrator was the right person.

Kids get in off the wait list. Mine was #5 for our elementary, got in in eight grade. It turned out he was friends with the girl who was #4--she wasn't back at his neighborhood school at the beginning of eighth, then she showed up a week later and told her friends she had tried H-B and didn't like it so she switched back. He realized later that was why the spot opened up for him. But there is movement on wait lists, which may be why kids just show up at H-B in 7th or 8th. The enrollment is capped so the administrators can't just let kids in as a favor. (Also, seriously? Why would they do that?)

Well, that will change this year with them no longer rolling over the wait list from year to year. Also, this is obviously very school dependent. I have a coworker whose child was #1 the wait list for their school, and never got off of it.

[Anonymous]

I think the email will go out after the offices are closed so that they won’t have to field phone calls!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the email will go out after the offices are closed so that they won’t have to field phone calls!

If they are smart!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the email will go out after the offices are closed so that they won’t have to field phone calls!

Phone calls about what? It is a lottery!

[Anonymous]

any news, anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:any news, anyone?

Just got a text about WL IB program.

[Anonymous]

Was that some kind of lottery? Thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:any news, anyone?

Just got a text about WL IB program.

Nothing about HB yet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was that some kind of lottery? Thanks

Yes it was a lottery for students (not inbound for WL) who are interested in the IB program. I guess that means you’ll hear soon, via text.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lottery really is double-blind. But, there are some kids that end up be3ign pupil placed for various reasons.

Based on some of the hand wringing in this thread about the timing and manner of the results, some of you may end up being frustrated by your HB experience. It can be a messy place, but you have to let the magic happen!

How can we apply for pupil placement? Is that common?

Show a legitimate need or know the right person. I know a 7th grader whose mom is friends with an APS administrator. That administrator was the right person.

Kids get in off the wait list. Mine was #5 for our elementary, got in in eight grade. It turned out he was friends with the girl who was #4--she wasn't back at his neighborhood school at the beginning of eighth, then she showed up a week later and told her friends she had tried H-B and didn't like it so she switched back. He realized later that was why the spot opened up for him. But there is movement on wait lists, which may be why kids just show up at H-B in 7th or 8th. The enrollment is capped so the administrators can't just let kids in as a favor. (Also, seriously? Why would they do that?)

No, this was sixth grade. Why would they do that? Friends do friends favors is the only explanation for the case I am familiar with. There was no need.