Color blind casting or color quota casting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It's a friggin Disney movie for crying out loud not a History Channel documentary.

If your fictional movie is set in a certain time and place, and it portrays people and things that are anachronistic, then it is simply badly done.

If a movie set in 1930s London had flying cars and cell phones, would you say "this is a fictional movie not a documentary fer chrissake"? No, you would say "this is stupid and distracting".

If we were a movie about world war two, then yes I would have a problem with it . since this is a fantasy magical film, then no. Mary Poppins wants to pop out a magical cell phone and be a little bit anachronistic for creative purposes, then I'm down with it

[Anonymous]

The classic Mary Poppins gifs are well played, kudos PP!

[Anonymous]

This is a movie where people burst in song and fly. And you think a black lawyer is unrealistic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a movie where people burst in song and fly. And you think a black lawyer is unrealistic?

It was a bank teller?

[Anonymous]

I saw Frozen on Broadway and grown up Anna was played by a black actress. She was great, but it was really confusing to watch. The show started with a white 'young Anna' with red braids, then she was a black 'grown up Anna' with black braids, and then later white braids, and then young Anna with white skin and red braids appeared for a flashback scene at the end, before ending with grown up Anna with black braids again. I loved the race blind casting of Kristoff, but couldn't get behind a character switching races during the show. My 5 yo was really confused, too. She asked me why Anna kept changing colors.

[Anonymous]

I noticed more black extras in the second season of Mrs. Maisel, eating at the table behind her in the deli (maybe this would have been realistic) and shopping at the high end Midtown department store she worked at (unlikely that there were many black women shopping at such a place in the 1950s). If Midge was a real person, she probably could have gone through most of her life without seeing a black person at all.

Also, has anyone noticed the glut of TV ads over the past year featuring black/white couples? There are many such couples in real life but it seems a little overly representative and forced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I noticed more black extras in the second season of Mrs. Maisel, eating at the table behind her in the deli (maybe this would have been realistic) and shopping at the high end Midtown department store she worked at (unlikely that there were many black women shopping at such a place in the 1950s). If Midge was a real person, she probably could have gone through most of her life without seeing a black person at all.

Also, has anyone noticed the glut of TV ads over the past year featuring black/white couples? There are many such couples in real life but it seems a little overly representative and forced.

I'm trying and failing to see what the problem is with any of this.

None of it is real anyhow. Have you ever seen anyone that excited to clean their house or eat a salad in the real world?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed more black extras in the second season of Mrs. Maisel, eating at the table behind her in the deli (maybe this would have been realistic) and shopping at the high end Midtown department store she worked at (unlikely that there were many black women shopping at such a place in the 1950s). If Midge was a real person, she probably could have gone through most of her life without seeing a black person at all.

Also, has anyone noticed the glut of TV ads over the past year featuring black/white couples? There are many such couples in real life but it seems a little overly representative and forced.

I'm trying and failing to see what the problem is with any of this.

None of it is real anyhow. Have you ever seen anyone that excited to clean their house or eat a salad in the real world?

Not a problem, just a little unrealistic and forced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed more black extras in the second season of Mrs. Maisel, eating at the table behind her in the deli (maybe this would have been realistic) and shopping at the high end Midtown department store she worked at (unlikely that there were many black women shopping at such a place in the 1950s). If Midge was a real person, she probably could have gone through most of her life without seeing a black person at all.

Also, has anyone noticed the glut of TV ads over the past year featuring black/white couples? There are many such couples in real life but it seems a little overly representative and forced.

I'm trying and failing to see what the problem is with any of this.

None of it is real anyhow. Have you ever seen anyone that excited to clean their house or eat a salad in the real world?

Not a problem, just a little unrealistic and forced.

do you realize how ridiculous and terribly sound? It seems ridiculous and forced that commercials are showing interracial couples which do actually exist?

Or that there are black folks in the background. The background--not even being given a main role? Jesus. The show uses 21st and current vernacular in slang. Just roll with it. Damn

You are so clueless as to how bigoted you sound. And you are probably the loudest screamer about how you're not racist or bigoted or prejudiced at all. You're just telling the truth. Am I right? I'm right!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You do realize there were in fact black barristers in the UK in the 30s and 40s right

The character in the film was a solicitor, so there were in fact more than the number of barristers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed more black extras in the second season of Mrs. Maisel, eating at the table behind her in the deli (maybe this would have been realistic) and shopping at the high end Midtown department store she worked at (unlikely that there were many black women shopping at such a place in the 1950s). If Midge was a real person, she probably could have gone through most of her life without seeing a black person at all.

Also, has anyone noticed the glut of TV ads over the past year featuring black/white couples? There are many such couples in real life but it seems a little overly representative and forced.

I'm trying and failing to see what the problem is with any of this.

None of it is real anyhow. Have you ever seen anyone that excited to clean their house or eat a salad in the real world?

Not a problem, just a little unrealistic and forced.

do you realize how ridiculous and terribly sound? It seems ridiculous and forced that commercials are showing interracial couples which do actually exist?

Or that there are black folks in the background. The background--not even being given a main role? Jesus. The show uses 21st and current vernacular in slang. Just roll with it. Damn

You are so clueless as to how bigoted you sound. And you are probably the loudest screamer about how you're not racist or bigoted or prejudiced at all. You're just telling the truth. Am I right? I'm right!

Whatever. You’ve earned your lefty points for the day. I know they exist, but there are not enough black/white couples in reality to justify their appearance on every other TV ad. How many do you know? It just seems forced, patronising and like pandering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just saw the new Mary Poppins movie. The issue of casting diversity is hardly new and I thought the color blind casting of Lin-Manuel Miranda in a "white" role was very effective because he was very believable in the role (not to mention he's incredibly talented). Yes, his accent was a little weird but I had no problem believing that he could have been a lamplighter in that era of London. Good casting.

Then there was the casting of black actors as one of the lawyers and the executive secretary to the man at the bank. Let's be real: in 1930s-1940s London (the implied era), there wouldn't have been black people in those jobs. By pretending that they would have, it glosses over the racism and discrimination of that era. Yes, this is a fantasy Disney movie, but it's highly unrealistic casting for a historical setting.

Which leads me to wonder if this was color "blind" casting or color "quota" casting? It felt like Disney was worried this period piece would feel too white so they decided to plop some black faces into roles that were historically inaccurate so they could take some credit for diversity on film. Isn't that tokenism?

Don't get me wrong, I totally support color blind casting when it makes sense, but there are certain times when this casting push gets distracting and frankly feels like pandering when placed into a historical setting.

It's a FANTASY story, not a non-fictional story line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The classic Mary Poppins gifs are well played, kudos PP!

Yes! No one does disdain like Mary Poppins

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s color-conscious casting.

Honestly, you’re watching a film where characters burst into song, jump into china bowls, and have a coral reef adventure in the bathtub. If the fact that there’s a black lawyer takes you out of the moment, you might want to check your suspension of disbelief.

It's still distracting in a historical setting and whitewashes the very real issues of discrimination and racism that were present in the era. What purpose does it serve in a historical setting other than for the producers to pat themselves on the back for promoting diversity?

Mary Poppins isn’t a historical movie. It isn’t a documentary. Mary Poppins is a made-up character. The story is fiction. I am struggling to understand your outrage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed more black extras in the second season of Mrs. Maisel, eating at the table behind her in the deli (maybe this would have been realistic) and shopping at the high end Midtown department store she worked at (unlikely that there were many black women shopping at such a place in the 1950s). If Midge was a real person, she probably could have gone through most of her life without seeing a black person at all.

Also, has anyone noticed the glut of TV ads over the past year featuring black/white couples? There are many such couples in real life but it seems a little overly representative and forced.

I'm trying and failing to see what the problem is with any of this.

None of it is real anyhow. Have you ever seen anyone that excited to clean their house or eat a salad in the real world?

Not a problem, just a little unrealistic and forced.

do you realize how ridiculous and terribly sound? It seems ridiculous and forced that commercials are showing interracial couples which do actually exist?

Or that there are black folks in the background. The background--not even being given a main role? Jesus. The show uses 21st and current vernacular in slang. Just roll with it. Damn

You are so clueless as to how bigoted you sound. And you are probably the loudest screamer about how you're not racist or bigoted or prejudiced at all. You're just telling the truth. Am I right? I'm right!

I think the big historical issue with Mrs. Maisel is the prolific use of the F bomb.