No more Pk3 at Ross ?

[Anonymous]

It doesn’t ease demand but it does release classroom space for the kids in the upper, compulsory grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's a good decision as it had become PK3 exclusively for siblings anyway. The school is tiny and the K and 1st grade classes are huge.

Ross is one of the few schools that can afford to drop PK3.

In many elementary schools in DC, PK3 pulls in some of the parents that might otherwise send their kids to private schools. (And are thus fairly focused on education.)
But Ross upper grades are filled with kids who are already very focused on education.

The parents who can go private, will go private regardless of PK3.

[Anonymous]

Ross, like a bunch of up and coming ES in the DuPont-Shaw-Col Heights area, has families who could easily afford private. Many of those families are planning on private high school but are happy with the public elementary experience.

Ross is a success story for DCPS. (Garrison, Marie Reed, Bancroft, Seaton, Cooke, Cleveland not far behind, roughly in descending order.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ross, like a bunch of up and coming ES in the DuPont-Shaw-Col Heights area, has families who could easily afford private. Many of those families are planning on private high school but are happy with the public elementary experience.

Ross is a success story for DCPS. (Garrison, Marie Reed, Bancroft, Seaton, Cooke, Cleveland not far behind, roughly in descending order.)

Except reorder: Marie Reed, Seaton, Bancroft, Cleveland, Garrison, Cooke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ross, like a bunch of up and coming ES in the DuPont-Shaw-Col Heights area, has families who could easily afford private. Many of those families are planning on private high school but are happy with the public elementary experience.

Ross is a success story for DCPS. (Garrison, Marie Reed, Bancroft, Seaton, Cooke, Cleveland not far behind, roughly in descending order.)

Until the 4th grade when they leave for private...what-evs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ross, like a bunch of up and coming ES in the DuPont-Shaw-Col Heights area, has families who could easily afford private. Many of those families are planning on private high school but are happy with the public elementary experience.

Ross is a success story for DCPS. (Garrison, Marie Reed, Bancroft, Seaton, Cooke, Cleveland not far behind, roughly in descending order.)

Until the 4th grade when they leave for private...what-evs.

Most of last year's class stayed for 5th this year.

[Anonymous]

And most who leave go to charters for middle school.Not private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And most who leave go to charters for middle school.Not private.

Many leave in 4th grade, so there kid doesn’t start middle school cold. And nope, the majority of UMC parents are not in charters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ross, like a bunch of up and coming ES in the DuPont-Shaw-Col Heights area, has families who could easily afford private. Many of those families are planning on private high school but are happy with the public elementary experience.

Ross is a success story for DCPS. (Garrison, Marie Reed, Bancroft, Seaton, Cooke, Cleveland not far behind, roughly in descending order.)

Except reorder: Marie Reed, Seaton, Bancroft, Cleveland, Garrison, Cooke

Yeah this is about right.
(Garrison is improving dramatically, let’s see where we are in a year or two.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's a good decision as it had become PK3 exclusively for siblings anyway. The school is tiny and the K and 1st grade classes are huge.

Ross is one of the few schools that can afford to drop PK3.

In many elementary schools in DC, PK3 pulls in some of the parents that might otherwise send their kids to private schools. (And are thus fairly focused on education.)
But Ross upper grades are filled with kids who are already very focused on education.

The parents who can go private, will go private regardless of PK3.

Not true. I've had lots of conversations with parents who could afford private at the school and they feel pretty strongly about public school... though I know if the school was terrible, they would do private in a heartbeat. They already invested heavily in real estate in the neighborhood and absolutely love the community so don't want to leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still curious how eliminating Pk3 eases demand. If they add another classroom at one grade level they open spots for enrollment that then get merged into one class. PK3 was already exclusively IB, so those families all have a right to enter at K so they are coming at some point.

They should eventually eliminate pk4 too. But then the school really will only be for rich kids. People who are renting will absolutely leave to get pk3 and better odds at pk4. The thought of paying for 4 more years of daycare (2 kids would be roughly 80+k) will be too much for some.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Still curious how eliminating Pk3 eases demand. If they add another classroom at one grade level they open spots for enrollment that then get merged into one class. PK3 was already exclusively IB, so those families all have a right to enter at K so they are coming at some point.

They should eventually eliminate pk4 too. But then the school really will only be for rich kids. People who are renting will absolutely leave to get pk3 and better odds at pk4. The thought of paying for 4 more years of daycare (2 kids would be roughly 80+k) will be too much for some.

The renters can benefit from expanded subsidized daycare - for poor/LMC/MC it is very heavily covered under new initiative. Definitely. Eliminate PK4 at non-title 1 schools. The IB parents who really can't afford to pay/can afford but want to freeload can go and diversify the schools EOTP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's a good decision as it had become PK3 exclusively for siblings anyway. The school is tiny and the K and 1st grade classes are huge.

Ross is one of the few schools that can afford to drop PK3.

In many elementary schools in DC, PK3 pulls in some of the parents that might otherwise send their kids to private schools. (And are thus fairly focused on education.)
But Ross upper grades are filled with kids who are already very focused on education.

The parents who can go private, will go private regardless of PK3.

Not true. I've had lots of conversations with parents who could afford private at the school and they feel pretty strongly about public school... though I know if the school was terrible, they would do private in a heartbeat. They already invested heavily in real estate in the neighborhood and absolutely love the community so don't want to leave.

Really....are they sending their kids to Shaw MS (Nope), Cardozo, (nope, nope), so what they are committed to is a Benetton vibe until it matters, and then their kids magically enroll in privates.

[Anonymous]

It is not simple to just “enroll in private” in 4th grade. I would guess many folks also move out of Dupont/ Logan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's a good decision as it had become PK3 exclusively for siblings anyway. The school is tiny and the K and 1st grade classes are huge.

Ross is one of the few schools that can afford to drop PK3.

In many elementary schools in DC, PK3 pulls in some of the parents that might otherwise send their kids to private schools. (And are thus fairly focused on education.)
But Ross upper grades are filled with kids who are already very focused on education.

The parents who can go private, will go private regardless of PK3.

Not true. I've had lots of conversations with parents who could afford private at the school and they feel pretty strongly about public school... though I know if the school was terrible, they would do private in a heartbeat. They already invested heavily in real estate in the neighborhood and absolutely love the community so don't want to leave.

Really....are they sending their kids to Shaw MS (Nope), Cardozo, (nope, nope), so what they are committed to is a Benetton vibe until it matters, and then their kids magically enroll in privates.

Well, the parents I talk to have kids in 2nd grade and under. But over half ross 5th graders now go on to Francis Stevens, which is the school we are zoned for. I think that number is rising too.