School Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They can relieve the overcrowding South and East by bussing to less crowded nearby schools. For example, the extra capacity at BCC can easily accommodate a few neighborhoods just east of Chevy Chase currently zoned for Einstein and Blair.

What extra capacity at B-CC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They can relieve the overcrowding South and East by bussing to less crowded nearby schools. For example, the extra capacity at BCC can easily accommodate a few neighborhoods just east of Chevy Chase currently zoned for Einstein and Blair.

What extra capacity at B-CC?

They just built an addition. School is way undercrowded compared to its neighbors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They can relieve the overcrowding South and East by bussing to less crowded nearby schools. For example, the extra capacity at BCC can easily accommodate a few neighborhoods just east of Chevy Chase currently zoned for Einstein and Blair.

What extra capacity at B-CC?

They just built an addition. School is way undercrowded compared to its neighbors.

Yes, and there are currently a few bathrooms that are empty most of the day that they could convert to classroom space.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They can relieve the overcrowding South and East by bussing to less crowded nearby schools. For example, the extra capacity at BCC can easily accommodate a few neighborhoods just east of Chevy Chase currently zoned for Einstein and Blair.

What extra capacity at B-CC?

They just built an addition. School is way undercrowded compared to its neighbors.

The school is projected to be over capacity in 2022-2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They can relieve the overcrowding South and East by bussing to less crowded nearby schools. For example, the extra capacity at BCC can easily accommodate a few neighborhoods just east of Chevy Chase currently zoned for Einstein and Blair.

Keep dreaming!

[Anonymous]

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Are there any schools in MoCo that have space?


Yes but they are all further north or east in less desirable areas with lower performing scores. They probably need to move the magnets up there to rebalance things which does seem to work. Blair's magnet and possibly RM's magnet would move to one of the under-enrolled and low performing school clusters. This would alleviate the overcrowding at Blair and RM. The overcrowding situation is worst at Blair so I guess that would be the first one to go.

Nah, they just need to rebalance things around the segregated schools.

Many of the W's are also under capacity seems like the perfect place to start.

Except none of the W middle or high schools are under capacity. Too many people move there in the later grades to escape their local low performing MS/HS.. You've got under enrolled ES and overenrolled HS. There are a good number people in the W schools looking at relocating to VA or who have already made the move but they get replaced with people leaving lower performing school clusters so you don't end up freeing up space there.

The only schools with room are Seneca Valley, Kennedy, Springbrook etc that are further out and lower scoring. My money is on the magnets moving first. Its easier than full scale diversity bussing.

If so many people are moving into the W clusters for HS from their lower performing clusters which tend to be east county, why are the east county HS still over capacity? Or are you saying they are moving from up county?

Where is the source for your claim? Is it just that you know a couple of people who did this, and so this must be the cause?

My money is a lot of people sending their kids to private for K to 8 then to public in HS.

You are partly correct. Many in the western part of the county send their children to private early on, but they also send them to private later. The reason elementary schools in the western part of the county are under capacity while the high schools are over capacity is economics. You have more wealth as you get older. Since houses are expensive in that part of the county, they are more affordable to those who have accumulated more wealth—are older and thus have older children.

I think there are several students who go to K to 8 for private and public for HS, including those who are home schooled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But basically the answer, OP, is no, what you have heard is 100% completely wrong. It is a false rumor. It is based on the very tiny kernel of truth that they will now weight diversity as SLIGTLY more important when they are creating boundaries for NEW schools. There is absolutely no countywide change going on.

This this this! So many people kept asking me what I think about it that I have a set response by now.

[Anonymous]

If so many people are moving into the W clusters for HS from their lower performing clusters which tend to be east county, why are the east county HS still over capacity? Or are you saying they are moving from up county?

In the eastern schools the growth is in the hispanic population. I looked up some of the old CIP and planning projections. The % of asian, AA and white population is relatively the same but the hispanic population almost doubled which none of the planning numbers projected. In 2008, MCPS was forecasting that Blair would be under capacity by a few hundred seats in 2016-2022. The FARMS number is not hugely different and while the ESOL number did jump it does not equal the hispanic population -so its not undocumented immigrants that don't speak english. Its most likely working poor hispanic families that used to live in DC and were pushed out.

[Anonymous]

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So here is a head scratcher look at the capacity projections for Seneca Valley. It is currently under capacity by 146 yet MCPS is spending money to do an expansion which will wait for it...make it under capacity by 1,280 in 2024.

How is that not complete mismanagement of funds when schools further south and east are bursting at the seems. Clearly the trend is that fewer people want to live up near Seneca Valley and use their schools so why spend precious resources making it bigger when there is so much need elsewhere. Does one of the board members live up there or something?

The expansion at Seneca Valley is to handle the overcrowding at Northwest and Clarksburg. The numbers look like that because the boundaries have not yet been redrawn.

Yup, there is massive overcrowding in the Clarksburg Elementary schools.

Do people in Clarksburg WANT to go to Seneca Valley? Why wouldn't they just expand Clarksburg HS if it is so popular? Why spend money to build capacity at an under capacity, unpopular school and then try to force bus kids there instead of expanding the school lots of people are already choosing? This could backfire big time and people might just move away.

They don't need another career readiness program with all the other needs out there so spending even more money on Seneca Valley to build something that may not be a draw anyway is even dumber.

[Anonymous]

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Do people in Clarksburg WANT to go to Seneca Valley? Why wouldn't they just expand Clarksburg HS if it is so popular? Why spend money to build capacity at an under capacity, unpopular school and then try to force bus kids there instead of expanding the school lots of people are already choosing? This could backfire big time and people might just move away.

They don't need another career readiness program with all the other needs out there so spending even more money on Seneca Valley to build something that may not be a draw anyway is even dumber.

...is not a question that MCPS needs to answer. If people currently zoned for Clarksburg HS get rezoned for the new Seneca Valley HS but don't want their kids to go to the new Seneca Valley HS, then they can find other options.

Also, Clarksburg HS already has been expanded. Do you live in Clarksburg?

[Anonymous]

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Do people in Clarksburg WANT to go to Seneca Valley? Why wouldn't they just expand Clarksburg HS if it is so popular? Why spend money to build capacity at an under capacity, unpopular school and then try to force bus kids there instead of expanding the school lots of people are already choosing? This could backfire big time and people might just move away.

They don't need another career readiness program with all the other needs out there so spending even more money on Seneca Valley to build something that may not be a draw anyway is even dumber.

...is not a question that MCPS needs to answer. If people currently zoned for Clarksburg HS get rezoned for the new Seneca Valley HS but don't want their kids to go to the new Seneca Valley HS, then they can find other options.

Also, Clarksburg HS already has been expanded. Do you live in Clarksburg?

Wow, if that is the attitude of MCPS then the leadership is awful. MCPS needs to stop wasting money on its own arrogant ideas and just take care of the basics. If Clarksburg is already over crowded and already was recently expanded then someone in planning needs to be fired for not properly forecasting to build the correct expansion size. Clarksburg students shouldn't have to pay for an MCPS mistake by being bussed somewhere else- that is stupid.

Plus the attitude that 'oh well if we spend millions expanding a different school and people don't come we don't care' is just another example of MCPS indifference, corruption and stupidity.

[Anonymous]

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Do people in Clarksburg WANT to go to Seneca Valley? Why wouldn't they just expand Clarksburg HS if it is so popular? Why spend money to build capacity at an under capacity, unpopular school and then try to force bus kids there instead of expanding the school lots of people are already choosing? This could backfire big time and people might just move away.

They don't need another career readiness program with all the other needs out there so spending even more money on Seneca Valley to build something that may not be a draw anyway is even dumber.

...is not a question that MCPS needs to answer. If people currently zoned for Clarksburg HS get rezoned for the new Seneca Valley HS but don't want their kids to go to the new Seneca Valley HS, then they can find other options.

Also, Clarksburg HS already has been expanded. Do you live in Clarksburg?

Wow, if that is the attitude of MCPS then the leadership is awful. MCPS needs to stop wasting money on its own arrogant ideas and just take care of the basics. If Clarksburg is already over crowded and already was recently expanded then someone in planning needs to be fired for not properly forecasting to build the correct expansion size. Clarksburg students shouldn't have to pay for an MCPS mistake by being bussed somewhere else- that is stupid.

Plus the attitude that 'oh well if we spend millions expanding a different school and people don't come we don't care' is just another example of MCPS indifference, corruption and stupidity.

Again - do you live in Clarksburg? If not, please stop ginning up controversy. If so, I suggest you come to the terms with the possibility of being rezoned to Seneca Valley HS.

[Anonymous]

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Do people in Clarksburg WANT to go to Seneca Valley? Why wouldn't they just expand Clarksburg HS if it is so popular? Why spend money to build capacity at an under capacity, unpopular school and then try to force bus kids there instead of expanding the school lots of people are already choosing? This could backfire big time and people might just move away.

They don't need another career readiness program with all the other needs out there so spending even more money on Seneca Valley to build something that may not be a draw anyway is even dumber.

...is not a question that MCPS needs to answer. If people currently zoned for Clarksburg HS get rezoned for the new Seneca Valley HS but don't want their kids to go to the new Seneca Valley HS, then they can find other options.

Also, Clarksburg HS already has been expanded. Do you live in Clarksburg?

Wow, if that is the attitude of MCPS then the leadership is awful. MCPS needs to stop wasting money on its own arrogant ideas and just take care of the basics. If Clarksburg is already over crowded and already was recently expanded then someone in planning needs to be fired for not properly forecasting to build the correct expansion size. Clarksburg students shouldn't have to pay for an MCPS mistake by being bussed somewhere else- that is stupid.

Plus the attitude that 'oh well if we spend millions expanding a different school and people don't come we don't care' is just another example of MCPS indifference, corruption and stupidity.

Again - do you live in Clarksburg? If not, please stop ginning up controversy. If so, I suggest you come to the terms with the possibility of being rezoned to Seneca Valley HS.

Amen. And I suggest the PP take a look at the Clarksburg HS service area map: http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/ClarksburgHS.pdf
There are several areas currently zoned to Clarkbsburg that are closer or equidistant to Seneca Valley.

And yes the upcounty area does need a career readiness program so kids don't have to travel all the way to Edison.

[Anonymous]

OMG no one wants a career readiness program but MCPS!!! This is pure garbage.

DCC schools, QO, RM, Clarksburg and other schools are way over capacity! Toilets don't work, mold grows on the walls, ceilings fall down, 100s of ADA violations, broken HVACs and abysmal disrepair from constantly delayed renovations throughout the system get completely ignored. What do the dumb idiots in MCPS do? Why lets expand an under enrolled school and bus kids in who don't want to go there and lets build a program that we want and none of the residents wants.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Really ashamed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG no one wants a career readiness program but MCPS!!! This is pure garbage.

DCC schools, QO, RM, Clarksburg and other schools are way over capacity! Toilets don't work, mold grows on the walls, ceilings fall down, 100s of ADA violations, broken HVACs and abysmal disrepair from constantly delayed renovations throughout the system get completely ignored. What do the dumb idiots in MCPS do? Why lets expand an under enrolled school and bus kids in who don't want to go there and lets build a program that we want and none of the residents wants.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Really ashamed.

Somebody's grumpy that the Germantown/Clarksburg areas are getting a new Seneca Valley High School building with a career technology education program so that upcounty kids don't have to go all the way to Wheaton. I don't understand why, but there it is, I guess.