School Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that everyone only thinks the poor kids will be bused into low farm school. As scholl officials and experts haved mentioned again and again the busing low income students generates huge inequity to the students, parents, and communites, the only solution is to bus MC students using programs as magnet. However, MCPS is not happy that the magnet programs lack URM, regardless income level. The only solution would be redistrict the W school boundary so more MC kids will be send to the east part of the county.

I don't understand why we just can't have a choice program for the entire county. DCC already has this. Why can't the rest of the county have it? Put some interesting cool programs in all high schools so that even UMC kids and MC kids would want to go them depending on their interests. Look at Wheaton HS for instance. This forced bussing is not going to work. Let people go to the schools that they want to go to.

[Anonymous]

There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

Yes, I know there isn't forced busing, but there's boundary changes that continues to be controversial for people and neighborhoods. Why not just focus on making each school great, provide cool programs in each, and allow people to go to schools they want to go to depending on their interests (providing there's room)? In a lot of ways, DCC has this already, why can't we extend it to the rest of the county?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

Yes, I know there isn't forced busing, but there's boundary changes that continues to be controversial for people and neighborhoods. Why not just focus on making each school great, provide cool programs in each, and allow people to go to schools they want to go to depending on their interests (providing there's room)? In a lot of ways, DCC has this already, why can't we extend it to the rest of the county?

Because when you build new schools, reopen old schools, or greatly expand existing schools, that means there will be boundary changes. It's inevitable. That doesn't mean there will be "forced busing," but yes, some families will be in different schools. There can also be new and appealing programs in these schools, including choice programs, but that doesn't mean boundary changes will go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It's not just a boundary change if you move away from neighborhoood schools to try to counteract housing segregation. It's a whole new experiment, and has some real challenges from where it has been tried:
neighborhood socioeconomics are constantly shifting, so how many times are you willing to make kids change schools to hit target numbers?
Special programs like free breakfast/aftercare can't be realistically implemented in every school, so at risk kids would lose out and/or face greater stigma.
At risk kids would be 'left behind' when placed in a school full of more advanced peers.
Loss of cohesive parent/neighborhood involvement in schools due to random distribution of parents.

The current situation of low performance for low ses schools is not great either, obviously. Failing schools should not be tolerated or rewarded. But we know school choice/incentive programs (like magnets) can turn around struggling schools. Instead of effectively demolishing the low ses schools and just shipping these kids off to be a minority in a wealthy school, it lures and serves gifted kids and gives the school (and neighborhood) a chance to slowly build up a stronger reputation. The fact that mcps isnt focusing on that solution and instead moving towards 'forced ses bussing' is short sighted and Seems like it will be yet another failed top-down theoretical social experiment performed on these kids and parents.

School districts have been doing this for at least 60 years (and also did it for decades before that, for the opposite purpose of maintaining segregated schools). MCPS has been doing it for at least 30 years. It's not a whole new experiment. It's not even an old experiment.

Also, nobody is moving towards "forced SES bussing". That is not a thing. Stop trying to make "fetch" happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

Yes, I know there isn't forced busing, but there's boundary changes that continues to be controversial for people and neighborhoods. Why not just focus on making each school great, provide cool programs in each, and allow people to go to schools they want to go to depending on their interests (providing there's room)? In a lot of ways, DCC has this already, why can't we extend it to the rest of the county?

Because when you build new schools, reopen old schools, or greatly expand existing schools, that means there will be boundary changes. It's inevitable. That doesn't mean there will be "forced busing," but yes, some families will be in different schools. There can also be new and appealing programs in these schools, including choice programs, but that doesn't mean boundary changes will go away.

+1 For all the time some parents on this forum spend complaining about overcrowding, they don't seem to understand that new schools or expanded schools = new boundaries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

Yes, I know there isn't forced busing, but there's boundary changes that continues to be controversial for people and neighborhoods. Why not just focus on making each school great, provide cool programs in each, and allow people to go to schools they want to go to depending on their interests (providing there's room)? In a lot of ways, DCC has this already, why can't we extend it to the rest of the county?

Because when you build new schools, reopen old schools, or greatly expand existing schools, that means there will be boundary changes. It's inevitable. That doesn't mean there will be "forced busing," but yes, some families will be in different schools. There can also be new and appealing programs in these schools, including choice programs, but that doesn't mean boundary changes will go away.

+1 For all the time some parents on this forum spend complaining about overcrowding, they don't seem to understand that new schools or expanded schools = new boundaries.

When Woodward opens and they implement diversity busing on a large scale there will be screams to high heaven.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

Yes, I know there isn't forced busing, but there's boundary changes that continues to be controversial for people and neighborhoods. Why not just focus on making each school great, provide cool programs in each, and allow people to go to schools they want to go to depending on their interests (providing there's room)? In a lot of ways, DCC has this already, why can't we extend it to the rest of the county?

Because when you build new schools, reopen old schools, or greatly expand existing schools, that means there will be boundary changes. It's inevitable. That doesn't mean there will be "forced busing," but yes, some families will be in different schools. There can also be new and appealing programs in these schools, including choice programs, but that doesn't mean boundary changes will go away.

+1 For all the time some parents on this forum spend complaining about overcrowding, they don't seem to understand that new schools or expanded schools = new boundaries.

When Woodward opens and they implement diversity busing on a large scale there will be screams to high heaven.

I really dont know how to respond to this constant assertion that there will be large scale diversity bussing. Maybe we can’t...it is probable that we are dealing with voices inside your head level stuff here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

Yes, I know there isn't forced busing, but there's boundary changes that continues to be controversial for people and neighborhoods. Why not just focus on making each school great, provide cool programs in each, and allow people to go to schools they want to go to depending on their interests (providing there's room)? In a lot of ways, DCC has this already, why can't we extend it to the rest of the county?

Because when you build new schools, reopen old schools, or greatly expand existing schools, that means there will be boundary changes. It's inevitable. That doesn't mean there will be "forced busing," but yes, some families will be in different schools. There can also be new and appealing programs in these schools, including choice programs, but that doesn't mean boundary changes will go away.

+1 For all the time some parents on this forum spend complaining about overcrowding, they don't seem to understand that new schools or expanded schools = new boundaries.

When Woodward opens and they implement diversity busing on a large scale there will be screams to high heaven.

What are we doing now, MCPS fan fiction?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

Yes, I know there isn't forced busing, but there's boundary changes that continues to be controversial for people and neighborhoods. Why not just focus on making each school great, provide cool programs in each, and allow people to go to schools they want to go to depending on their interests (providing there's room)? In a lot of ways, DCC has this already, why can't we extend it to the rest of the county?

Because when you build new schools, reopen old schools, or greatly expand existing schools, that means there will be boundary changes. It's inevitable. That doesn't mean there will be "forced busing," but yes, some families will be in different schools. There can also be new and appealing programs in these schools, including choice programs, but that doesn't mean boundary changes will go away.

+1 For all the time some parents on this forum spend complaining about overcrowding, they don't seem to understand that new schools or expanded schools = new boundaries.

When Woodward opens and they implement diversity busing on a large scale there will be screams to high heaven.

What are we doing now, MCPS fan fiction?

The BOE just put the last piece in place to make this real. It sure seems like it's happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no forced busing! If anything there will be some changes in school boundaries in the future. Same as there has been in past. And at that time there will be public input.

Yes, I know there isn't forced busing, but there's boundary changes that continues to be controversial for people and neighborhoods. Why not just focus on making each school great, provide cool programs in each, and allow people to go to schools they want to go to depending on their interests (providing there's room)? In a lot of ways, DCC has this already, why can't we extend it to the rest of the county?

Because when you build new schools, reopen old schools, or greatly expand existing schools, that means there will be boundary changes. It's inevitable. That doesn't mean there will be "forced busing," but yes, some families will be in different schools. There can also be new and appealing programs in these schools, including choice programs, but that doesn't mean boundary changes will go away.

+1 For all the time some parents on this forum spend complaining about overcrowding, they don't seem to understand that new schools or expanded schools = new boundaries.

When Woodward opens and they implement diversity busing on a large scale there will be screams to high heaven.

What are we doing now, MCPS fan fiction?

The BOE just put the last piece in place to make this real. It sure seems like it's happening.

Except they didn't. Please go back and read policy FAA and/or watch the recordings of the meetings and listen to what the board members are actually saying.

[Anonymous]

Do you attend board meetings? Watch them online? Clearly not because the Board DID address this, and said there would not be massive busing across the county. So they adjust the boundaries a little bit at the edges. Not enough to make a fuss about!

Many people have said this multiple times on this forum. Too many people listening to voices in their head, or gossiping neighbors who like to stir the pot and cause trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you attend board meetings? Watch them online? Clearly not because the Board DID address this, and said there would not be massive busing across the county. So they adjust the boundaries a little bit at the edges. Not enough to make a fuss about!

Many people have said this multiple times on this forum. Too many people listening to voices in their head, or gossiping neighbors who like to stir the pot and cause trouble.

That's just what they said to get the new rule through the board, but now that it's a matter of policy, it's really just a matter of time until the diversity busing begins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you attend board meetings? Watch them online? Clearly not because the Board DID address this, and said there would not be massive busing across the county. So they adjust the boundaries a little bit at the edges. Not enough to make a fuss about!

Many people have said this multiple times on this forum. Too many people listening to voices in their head, or gossiping neighbors who like to stir the pot and cause trouble.

That's just what they said to get the new rule through the board, but now that it's a matter of policy, it's really just a matter of time until the diversity busing begins.

As a parent whose children go to one of the most diverse schools in the county, busing is a waste of resources. The notion that there are good and bad schools is largely a fallacy. The county would be better served by minimizing busing even by adjusting current boundaries and redirect those monies to schools by providing smaller classes and more support like teacher's aids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you attend board meetings? Watch them online? Clearly not because the Board DID address this, and said there would not be massive busing across the county. So they adjust the boundaries a little bit at the edges. Not enough to make a fuss about!

Many people have said this multiple times on this forum. Too many people listening to voices in their head, or gossiping neighbors who like to stir the pot and cause trouble.

That's just what they said to get the new rule through the board, but now that it's a matter of policy, it's really just a matter of time until the diversity busing begins.

Diversity busing was never even part of the discussion. Boundary changes are what they are talking about. Which has always been something they have done! I guess there's no reasoning with crazy though.