Elrich wins with 64.4% of the vote

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Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed Elrich won, although all our choices seemed bad. If our taxes go up (the county surcharge) we are seriously considering moving to Virginia or DC. Kids are now out of school so we don’t need the school system anymore. And if I see one more listserv message in my neighborhood complaining about the Westbard redevelopment, which is despatately needed, I’m going to scream.

So much this. Especially now since they have appropriated issues they didn't give a fig about until they could used them to try to derail the project (the AA cemetery).

Exactly!! Every week it's some dumb new thing, like boycotting the Giant for a week because they haven't demanded enough parking. I hate the Giant but make a point to go during that week.

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Most people in my area(Darnestown/QO) voted for Floreen or ficker. I was certain Floreen was going to win, but I guess she didn't get a lot of votes in the whole silver spring/east county area.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people in my area(Darnestown/QO) voted for Floreen or ficker. I was certain Floreen was going to win, but I guess she didn't get a lot of votes in the whole silver spring/east county area.

We had three votes in SS but, I guess we were the minority.

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It would be great to see the breakdown by polling center or area throughout the county. I'm sure that the politicians have this data and it influences their actions. It would be good to see the Hogan numbers for MoCo too and voter turnout by area.

If 65% of the county voted for Hogan and Elrich -the idea of a progressive mandate goes out the window.

Montgomery County seems like two or more places. The east and the west or to get even more granular the east, Bethesda/CC, the west/north and the rural areas. The areas really don't interact or benefit each other with the exception of the east that gets funded by the west. You could split it in half or even into four pieces and have more functional representative government.

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Anonymous wrote:Poor OP-are you in shock that Ficker didn’t win? People don’t vote for men who assault women (President POTUS being an exception) and have been disbarred 5 times.

I voted for floreen you idiot

Floreen who is in developers' pockets who couldn't be bothered to run in the primary like a normal Democrat because she knew she'd lose? Apparently I'm not the idiot, because my candidate won by a lot.

I hope elrich is good for the county. I agree floreen was not inspiring.

If we had ranked choice voting, Blair would be county exec

+1. Elrich would do well to remember this.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great to see the breakdown by polling center or area throughout the county. I'm sure that the politicians have this data and it influences their actions. It would be good to see the Hogan numbers for MoCo too and voter turnout by area.

If 65% of the county voted for Hogan and Elrich -the idea of a progressive mandate goes out the window.

Montgomery County seems like two or more places. The east and the west or to get even more granular the east, Bethesda/CC, the west/north and the rural areas. The areas really don't interact or benefit each other with the exception of the east that gets funded by the west. You could split it in half or even into four pieces and have more functional representative government.

I'd love this. So tired of officials who only get the silver spring and east county votes and they decide local policies in my area. Most i know voted for floreen, people here want her not elhrich .

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Also NoVa has Dulles, and there is a desire to locate large business HQs close to an international airport. (Part of the goal of the ICC was to make BWI "closer" to MoCo but I just don't think it has the same draw as being close to IAD.)

BWI has vaulted to #1 in passenger traffic in the last few years, ahead of both IAD and DCA. IAD has orders of magnitudes more international flights than BWI, but even at IAD only 1/3 of passengers are flying internationally.

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So glad he won and the crazy Trumpers on this board were wrong again.

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Anonymous wrote:It means more jobs going to Fairfax over Maryland. It means no road expansion. It means buses from Frederick that no one will take. It means more people driving on the beltway into Virginia to work at the jobs that won't come to MoCo.

I haven’t noticed an unemployment crisis in MoCo. And making the 270 even wider is ridiculous.

That's because people are working in Northern Virginia. Let me guess, you've never seen the beltway going towards Northern VA in the morning and back to MD in the evening? Let me fill you in, it's horrible. The reverse commute is going VA to MD in the morning and MD to VA in the afternoon. Smooth sailing. The jobs are going to Northern Virginia.

That really isn't the full story. MD has some large employers--Marriott, AstraZeneca/Medimmune, Hyatt, Medstar, etc.--but Northern Virginia has the vast majority of the federal government infrastructure and defense contractors, outside of NSA (which obviously doesn't impact MoCo). That's the real difference maker, and it's a legacy from decades ago. Combine that with the fact that MoCo development has been very different than Northern VA (ag reserve taking up half the county vs unfettered concrete jungle) and you get what we have now. If you want MoCo to really compete with Northern Virginia on the jobs front, get rid of the ag reserve and give incentives for the federal government to build there.

perhaps the most intelligent post on this thread

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Anonymous wrote:It would be great to see the breakdown by polling center or area throughout the county. I'm sure that the politicians have this data and it influences their actions. It would be good to see the Hogan numbers for MoCo too and voter turnout by area.

If 65% of the county voted for Hogan and Elrich -the idea of a progressive mandate goes out the window.

Montgomery County seems like two or more places. The east and the west or to get even more granular the east, Bethesda/CC, the west/north and the rural areas. The areas really don't interact or benefit each other with the exception of the east that gets funded by the west. You could split it in half or even into four pieces and have more functional representative government.

Wish we could do this to Florida and Texas...

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Anonymous wrote:So glad he won and the crazy Trumpers on this board were wrong again.

Floreen is hardly a crazy trump supporter, pp

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Anonymous wrote:It means more jobs going to Fairfax over Maryland. It means no road expansion. It means buses from Frederick that no one will take. It means more people driving on the beltway into Virginia to work at the jobs that won't come to MoCo.

I haven’t noticed an unemployment crisis in MoCo. And making the 270 even wider is ridiculous.

Then what's your solution to the traffic hell on the bridge and 270? It takes an hour to go 20 miles. This isn't a sustainable or acceptable situation.

And you can’t get on a bus to go to work why?? A bus or a train?

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Anonymous wrote:It means more jobs going to Fairfax over Maryland. It means no road expansion. It means buses from Frederick that no one will take. It means more people driving on the beltway into Virginia to work at the jobs that won't come to MoCo.

I haven’t noticed an unemployment crisis in MoCo. And making the 270 even wider is ridiculous.

That's because people are working in Northern Virginia. Let me guess, you've never seen the beltway going towards Northern VA in the morning and back to MD in the evening? Let me fill you in, it's horrible. The reverse commute is going VA to MD in the morning and MD to VA in the afternoon. Smooth sailing. The jobs are going to Northern Virginia.

That really isn't the full story. MD has some large employers--Marriott, AstraZeneca/Medimmune, Hyatt, Medstar, etc.--but Northern Virginia has the vast majority of the federal government infrastructure and defense contractors, outside of NSA (which obviously doesn't impact MoCo). That's the real difference maker, and it's a legacy from decades ago. Combine that with the fact that MoCo development has been very different than Northern VA (ag reserve taking up half the county vs unfettered concrete jungle) and you get what we have now. If you want MoCo to really compete with Northern Virginia on the jobs front, get rid of the ag reserve and give incentives for the federal government to build there.

perhaps the most intelligent post on this thread

No way. All of DC - a short drive or metro ride away - is filled with government and industry jobs, we don’t need to pave over our county to have government complexes built. Not only that but the trend is to spread government jobs spread throughout the country, not clustered in DC. If anything govt jobs will be leaving.

Ever been to Gaithersburg? Tons of Pharma companies there. We’re doing fine jobs wise what we need is more transportation options for this whole area.

Seems like a major problem is that people don’t want to live in Virginia (they just want to commute there) so how is making MoCo into the Virginia going to help that?

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Seems like a major problem is that people don’t want to live in Virginia (they just want to commute there) so how is making MoCo into the Virginia going to help that?

Personally, I don't want to live further south than MD. I have a mental block about living south of the Potomac river, but most of the high paying jobs are in NoVa, at least for DH and I. I don't want to move to VA, but I also don't want a long commute. Since I have kids and would like to see them for more than 30min a day, I'm going to have to move to VA if I want to be around lots of jobs in my field. Currently, we can hold out, but I don't know how much longer this will last.

I'm ok with high taxes as long as we get some benefit out of it, as in not overcrowded schools and a decent commute. Right now, neither is looking good.

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Anonymous wrote:It means more jobs going to Fairfax over Maryland. It means no road expansion. It means buses from Frederick that no one will take. It means more people driving on the beltway into Virginia to work at the jobs that won't come to MoCo.

I haven’t noticed an unemployment crisis in MoCo. And making the 270 even wider is ridiculous.

That's because people are working in Northern Virginia. Let me guess, you've never seen the beltway going towards Northern VA in the morning and back to MD in the evening? Let me fill you in, it's horrible. The reverse commute is going VA to MD in the morning and MD to VA in the afternoon. Smooth sailing. The jobs are going to Northern Virginia.

That really isn't the full story. MD has some large employers--Marriott, AstraZeneca/Medimmune, Hyatt, Medstar, etc.--but Northern Virginia has the vast majority of the federal government infrastructure and defense contractors, outside of NSA (which obviously doesn't impact MoCo). That's the real difference maker, and it's a legacy from decades ago. Combine that with the fact that MoCo development has been very different than Northern VA (ag reserve taking up half the county vs unfettered concrete jungle) and you get what we have now. If you want MoCo to really compete with Northern Virginia on the jobs front, get rid of the ag reserve and give incentives for the federal government to build there.

perhaps the most intelligent post on this thread

No way. All of DC - a short drive or metro ride away - is filled with government and industry jobs, we don’t need to pave over our county to have government complexes built. Not only that but the trend is to spread government jobs spread throughout the country, not clustered in DC. If anything govt jobs will be leaving.

Ever been to Gaithersburg? Tons of Pharma companies there. We’re doing fine jobs wise what we need is more transportation options for this whole area.

Seems like a major problem is that people don’t want to live in Virginia (they just want to commute there) so how is making MoCo into the Virginia going to help that?

Wasn't suggesting we pave everything. I think their reasoning simply explains why things are this way. Personally like the ag reserve.