Is there an Independent running for MD Gov this year?

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Anonymous wrote:The main problem with voting for Hogan is the redistributing.

Redistricting? So the concern is Republican gerrymandering? I think Democrats have done that in Maryland quite a bit. (I am a Democrat.)

Yeah, MD is heavily gerrymandered in the Dems favor. I guess reversing that would be bad because it would help Republicans in congress, but I'd rather see less gerrymandering all together and I don't think two wrongs make a right. Non-partisan redistricting would be the best in my mind.

Sadly, Republicans are going to gerrymander every state they can. If Democrats don’t follow suit then Republicans get another decade of control even though they get fewer votes.

Democrats do it too.

[Anonymous]

There really is no third party! Remember that hard lesson from the 2016 Presidential Election. You aren't voting for a third party if you do this, you are helping to elect someone else.

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Anonymous wrote:The main problem with voting for Hogan is the redistributing.

Redistricting? So the concern is Republican gerrymandering? I think Democrats have done that in Maryland quite a bit. (I am a Democrat.)

Yeah, MD is heavily gerrymandered in the Dems favor. I guess reversing that would be bad because it would help Republicans in congress, but I'd rather see less gerrymandering all together and I don't think two wrongs make a right. Non-partisan redistricting would be the best in my mind.

Sadly, Republicans are going to gerrymander every state they can. If Democrats don’t follow suit then Republicans get another decade of control even though they get fewer votes.

Democrats are well positioned to take some additional governorships which should help balance things out. A desire to gerrymandered just seems like an odd reason to vote for Jealous, especially since there is only so much Hogan can do with the Democrats holding the legislature.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The main problem with voting for Hogan is the redistributing.

Redistricting? So the concern is Republican gerrymandering? I think Democrats have done that in Maryland quite a bit. (I am a Democrat.)

Yeah, MD is heavily gerrymandered in the Dems favor. I guess reversing that would be bad because it would help Republicans in congress, but I'd rather see less gerrymandering all together and I don't think two wrongs make a right. Non-partisan redistricting would be the best in my mind.

Sadly, Republicans are going to gerrymander every state they can. If Democrats don’t follow suit then Republicans get another decade of control even though they get fewer votes.

Democrats are well positioned to take some additional governorships which should help balance things out. A desire to gerrymandered just seems like an odd reason to vote for Jealous, especially since there is only so much Hogan can do with the Democrats holding the legislature.

This is the kind of thing Democrat’s have to contend with. They e never done anything close to it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/REDMAP
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/07/19/gerrymandering-republicans-redmap

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Anonymous wrote:The main problem with voting for Hogan is the redistributing.

Redistricting? So the concern is Republican gerrymandering? I think Democrats have done that in Maryland quite a bit. (I am a Democrat.)

Yeah, MD is heavily gerrymandered in the Dems favor. I guess reversing that would be bad because it would help Republicans in congress, but I'd rather see less gerrymandering all together and I don't think two wrongs make a right. Non-partisan redistricting would be the best in my mind.

Sadly, Republicans are going to gerrymander every state they can. If Democrats don’t follow suit then Republicans get another decade of control even though they get fewer votes.

Democrats are well positioned to take some additional governorships which should help balance things out. A desire to gerrymandered just seems like an odd reason to vote for Jealous, especially since there is only so much Hogan can do with the Democrats holding the legislature.

This is the kind of thing Democrat’s have to contend with. They e never done anything close to it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/REDMAP
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/07/19/gerrymandering-republicans-redmap

I agree that this is despicable, but if you think that the Democrats have never done anything close to it, you are blinded by your allegiance to party.

From 1992 to 2012, Roscoe Bartlett had served the conservative Western MD region winning in 1992 by 54% and from 1994-2010 by at least 56% of the vote. In 2012, among many other significant changes the Democratic party gerrymandered MD dividing Bartlett's conservative base into three different new "districts" and effectively gerrymandering him out of office. He won only 38% of the vote in 2012 and was defeated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/28/how-maryland-democrats-pulled-off-their-aggressive-gerrymander/?utm_term=.06e16b28d7b5

The Democratic party has truly gerrymandered the state so much that the Conservative western wing of the state can no longer get a US Congressman that represents their interests, Instead they are sliced up so that they end up with three liberal Democrats representing them. They have lost their own voice in Congress.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do people have against progressives?

It's what progressives have against ME...

They want to ban guns that I own responsibly. They want to raise my taxes to pay for things I don't agree with. They are trying to redefine the concept of "hate" to describe anyone who opposes them.

I'd be totally content to let progressives be progressives and not impose my beliefs on them in any way whatsoever , but they won't extend the same courtesy to me.

No one is banning guns (except maybe assault rifles-which, why do need one?)
How do you suppose we pay for things?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The main problem with voting for Hogan is the redistributing.

Redistricting? So the concern is Republican gerrymandering? I think Democrats have done that in Maryland quite a bit. (I am a Democrat.)

Yeah, MD is heavily gerrymandered in the Dems favor. I guess reversing that would be bad because it would help Republicans in congress, but I'd rather see less gerrymandering all together and I don't think two wrongs make a right. Non-partisan redistricting would be the best in my mind.

Sadly, Republicans are going to gerrymander every state they can. If Democrats don’t follow suit then Republicans get another decade of control even though they get fewer votes.

Democrats are well positioned to take some additional governorships which should help balance things out. A desire to gerrymandered just seems like an odd reason to vote for Jealous, especially since there is only so much Hogan can do with the Democrats holding the legislature.

This is the kind of thing Democrat’s have to contend with. They e never done anything close to it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/REDMAP
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/07/19/gerrymandering-republicans-redmap

I agree that this is despicable, but if you think that the Democrats have never done anything close to it, you are blinded by your allegiance to party.

From 1992 to 2012, Roscoe Bartlett had served the conservative Western MD region winning in 1992 by 54% and from 1994-2010 by at least 56% of the vote. In 2012, among many other significant changes the Democratic party gerrymandered MD dividing Bartlett's conservative base into three different new "districts" and effectively gerrymandering him out of office. He won only 38% of the vote in 2012 and was defeated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/28/how-maryland-democrats-pulled-off-their-aggressive-gerrymander/?utm_term=.06e16b28d7b5

The Democratic party has truly gerrymandered the state so much that the Conservative western wing of the state can no longer get a US Congressman that represents their interests, Instead they are sliced up so that they end up with three liberal Democrats representing them. They have lost their own voice in Congress.

+1. The Democrats are just as bad on this front as Republicans when they have the chance. They just haven't had the chance as much recently since the Republicans have done better on the state level.

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Dems in MD did way worse gerrymandering than Republicans ever have. That's why we have a congressional district that stretches from Montgomery Mall in Bethesda all the way to Garrett County near Cumberland. It takes about 3 hours to drive that district from end-to-end.

As for a Kavanaugh police investigation, that's not Hogan's fault. In MD, such a crime is investigated by the county not the state. MoCo Police have already said they need to receive a complaint from a victim in order to investigate:
http://www.mymcpnews.com/2018/09/24/statement-from-the-montgomery-county-police-department-regarding-victim-accusations-of-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh/

Hogan is about as liberal as you'll find among Republicans. He also holds the second highest approval rating of any governor in the US. He's done good things for MD in his term so far, like getting the Purple Line through while also expanding roads and lowering tolls.

Jealous would be really bad for education if you live in MoCo -- he wants to take our tax money and redirect it to Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The main problem with voting for Hogan is the redistributing.

Redistricting? So the concern is Republican gerrymandering? I think Democrats have done that in Maryland quite a bit. (I am a Democrat.)

Yeah, MD is heavily gerrymandered in the Dems favor. I guess reversing that would be bad because it would help Republicans in congress, but I'd rather see less gerrymandering all together and I don't think two wrongs make a right. Non-partisan redistricting would be the best in my mind.

Sadly, Republicans are going to gerrymander every state they can. If Democrats don’t follow suit then Republicans get another decade of control even though they get fewer votes.

Democrats are well positioned to take some additional governorships which should help balance things out. A desire to gerrymandered just seems like an odd reason to vote for Jealous, especially since there is only so much Hogan can do with the Democrats holding the legislature.

This is the kind of thing Democrat’s have to contend with. They e never done anything close to it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/REDMAP
http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/07/19/gerrymandering-republicans-redmap

I agree that this is despicable, but if you think that the Democrats have never done anything close to it, you are blinded by your allegiance to party.

From 1992 to 2012, Roscoe Bartlett had served the conservative Western MD region winning in 1992 by 54% and from 1994-2010 by at least 56% of the vote. In 2012, among many other significant changes the Democratic party gerrymandered MD dividing Bartlett's conservative base into three different new "districts" and effectively gerrymandering him out of office. He won only 38% of the vote in 2012 and was defeated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/03/28/how-maryland-democrats-pulled-off-their-aggressive-gerrymander/?utm_term=.06e16b28d7b5

The Democratic party has truly gerrymandered the state so much that the Conservative western wing of the state can no longer get a US Congressman that represents their interests, Instead they are sliced up so that they end up with three liberal Democrats representing them. They have lost their own voice in Congress.

Unfortunately, REDMAP was a nationwide gerrymander. As I said, Democrats have never done anything like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do people have against progressives?

It's what progressives have against ME...

They want to ban guns that I own responsibly. They want to raise my taxes to pay for things I don't agree with. They are trying to redefine the concept of "hate" to describe anyone who opposes them.

I'd be totally content to let progressives be progressives and not impose my beliefs on them in any way whatsoever , but they won't extend the same courtesy to me.

No one is banning guns (except maybe assault rifles-which, why do need one?)
How do you suppose we pay for things?

"No one is banning any guns"..... "except for all the guns we're banning".

Do you even hear yourself, lolz ?!?!?!